40 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

If you trade you clear

J.Davis-5.4M

PIckett-2.6M

Huff-(post June 1 Designation)-4.3M

Save about 12.5M right there.

And gain draft picks. I'm signing up for that if it keeps me Williams, Becton & Baun. All of those guys are clear backups right now. Can totally see it.

You can’t designate a trade post june 1 it actually has to happen after June 1st.. so in order to trade Huff for any savings it has to happen after that point with any draft picks for future years. 

For those that care if they go or not (frankly i don’t care either way)

 

 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I have a feeling the Packers players are embarrassed by their leadership on this one.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

For those that care if they go or not (frankly i don’t care either way)

 

It's always blown out of proportion, but to me the common sense answer is to accept the invite and whoever wants to go can go and whoever doesn't is fine to deny it. That's my $0.02 at least. 

4 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

They are not trading Jordan Davis.

He's one of the most tradeable players. His value will probably never be higher than it is now and I can't see the Eagles paying market value for a DT who plays 13-15 snaps per game. It just doesn't make sense. I can't even think of who you'd compare him to he plays that little.  

These are all of the current DT contracts above Jordan Davis right now. He's not going to sign a contract for less than his rookie deal. Who on this list can you compare JD to? I look at Christian Barmore, but his lowest snap count is still higher than Jordan Davis's highest snap count. 

JD has played 26%, 45% and 37% of the snaps in his first 3 years. He's a part time player that was acquired by trading 4 draft picks. If we're being realistic, based on performance, he should be getting Bilal Nichols type of money and even that's a stretch. Nichols lowest snap count, as a 5th rounder, was 36% his rookie year. Since then he's averaged 57% of the snaps. Do you think JD would sign a 3-year $21 million extension? 

Linval Joseph played 24% of the snaps for Dallas this year and had 2 sacks on a 1-year $2.5 million contract. They could trade JD and replace him with a veteran to eat those snaps.

Player	Team	Age	Total Value ▾	Avg./Year	Total Guaranteed	Fully Guaranteed	Free Agency
Chris Jones	Chiefs	31	$158,750,000	$31,750,000	$95,000,000	$60,000,000	2029 UFA
Christian Wilkins	Raiders	30	$110,000,000	$27,500,000	$82,750,000	$57,500,000	2028 Void
Nnamdi Madubuike	Ravens	28	$98,000,000	$24,500,000	$75,500,000	$48,500,000	2028 Void
Alim McNeill	Lions	25	$97,000,000	$24,250,000	$55,060,667	$28,060,667	2029 Void
Quinnen Williams	Jets	28	$96,000,000	$24,000,000	$66,000,000	$47,835,000	2028 Void
Derrick Brown	Panthers	27	$96,000,000	$24,000,000	$63,165,000	$41,165,000	2029 UFA
Jeffery Simmons	Titans	28	$94,000,000	$23,500,000	$59,330,000	$47,830,000	2028 UFA
Dexter Lawrence	Giants	28	$90,000,000	$22,500,000	$59,000,000	$46,500,000	2028 UFA
Daron Payne	Commanders	28	$90,000,000	$22,500,000	$60,020,000	$46,010,000	2027 Void
Christian Barmore	Patriots	26	$84,000,000	$21,000,000	$41,822,128	$31,822,128	2029 UFA
Javon Hargrave	49ers	32	$84,000,000	$21,000,000	$40,000,000	$40,000,000	2025 Void
Jonathan Allen	Commanders	30	$72,000,000	$18,000,000	$35,642,235	$33,142,235	2026 UFA
Vita Vea	Buccaneers	30	$71,000,000	$17,750,000	$40,596,440	$14,734,440	2027 Void
Ed Oliver	Bills	28	$68,000,000	$17,000,000	$45,278,000	$24,528,000	2028 UFA
Leonard Williams	Seahawks	31	$64,500,000	$21,500,000	$43,850,000	$26,150,000	2027 Void
Kenny Clark	Packers	30	$64,000,000	$21,333,333	$17,500,000	$17,500,000	2028 UFA
Dalvin Tomlinson	Browns	31	$57,000,000	$14,250,000	$27,500,000	$25,000,000	2027 Void
Dre'Mont Jones	Seahawks	28	$51,530,000	$17,176,667	$30,000,000	$23,000,000	2026 Void
Grady Jarrett	Falcons	32	$49,500,000	$16,500,000	$36,470,588	$34,470,588	2026 UFA
DeForest Buckner	Colts	31	$46,000,000	$23,000,000	$53,250,000	$43,250,000	2027 Void
Zach Allen	Broncos	28	$45,750,000	$15,250,000	$32,500,000	$32,500,000	2026 Void
Grover Stewart	Colts	32	$39,000,000	$13,000,000	$25,730,000	$17,990,000	2027 UFA
David Onyemata	Falcons	33	$35,000,000	$11,666,667	$24,500,000	$24,500,000	2026 Void
Davon Hamilton	Jaguars	28	$34,500,000	$11,500,000	$23,000,000	$20,000,000	2027 Void
Zach Sieler	Dolphins	30	$30,750,000	$10,250,000	$20,000,000	$17,725,000	2027 Void
Justin Jones	Cardinals	29	$30,165,000	$10,055,000	$19,750,000	$17,750,000	2027 UFA
D.J. Jones	Broncos	30	$30,000,000	$10,000,000	$20,000,000	$20,000,000	2025 UFA
B.J. Hill	Bengals	30	$30,000,000	$10,000,000	$13,000,000	$13,000,000	2025 UFA
Cameron Heyward	Steelers	36	$29,000,000	$14,500,000	$16,000,000	$16,000,000	2027 UFA
Larry Ogunjobi	Steelers	31	$28,750,000	$9,583,333	$17,000,000	$12,000,000	2026 UFA
Maliek Collins	49ers	30	$23,000,000	$11,500,000	$18,500,000	$18,500,000	2026 Void
A'Shawn Robinson	Panthers	30	$22,500,000	$7,500,000	$10,375,000	$7,375,000	2027 UFA
D.J. Reader	Lions	31	$22,000,000	$11,000,000	$7,425,000	$7,425,000	2026 Void
Jalen Carter	Eagles	24	$21,806,184	$5,451,546	$21,806,184	$21,806,184	2027 UFA
Roy Robertson-Harris	Seahawks	32	$21,600,000	$7,200,000	$14,400,000	$14,400,000	2027 Void
Bilal Nichols	Cardinals	29	$21,000,000	$7,000,000	$14,390,000	$12,000,000	2027 UFA
Shy Tuttle	Panthers	30	$19,500,000	$6,500,000	$13,000,000	$13,000,000	2026 Void
Davon Godchaux	Patriots	31	$18,000,000	$9,000,000	$16,650,000	$15,650,000	2027 UFA
Jordan Davis	Eagles	25	$17,009,278	$4,252,320	$17,009,278	$17,009,278	2026 UFA

13 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I think this is just a Vic Fangio factor.  It’s not just Zach Baun , it’s Nakobe Dean, and it’s even Oren Burks.  

Whether it’s scheme, the line in front of them, or development under Vic’s staff, LBs thrived this year.  I believe that Vic Fangio just knows how to get the most out of his LBs.  

This is also the reason why I think the evaluations on who they may draft at the position may change in the future… They have not been good at it in the past, but I think that changes in the future as long as Vic is here and involved in that process.

Burks has not been discussed as much because he’s a back up option plan.  

OK so the argument continues.

If LB thrive because of Fangio, why overpay for a LB when it's assumed they might be able to find a LB to play his best in this defense?

It's the same argument for those saying Milton Williams is only thriving because he plays next to Jalen Carter. 

Who's benefiting more/ Baun because of Fangio or Williams because of Carter? 

I want both back because both were difference makers and make game changing plays. You don't just find that with every player you bring in. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

For those that care if they go or not (frankly i don’t care either way)

 

Just say they're going to go and then don't show up.  Send the soccer team in their place. 

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

It's always blown out of proportion, but to me the common sense answer is to accept the invite and whoever wants to go can go and whoever doesn't is fine to deny it. That's my $0.02 at least. 

All I know is that it's exhausting on twitter right now. Both sides are so arrogant and condescending with their comments. I hate social media so much. I wish there was a way to read the news that I wanted to read without the draining online fighting. 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

He's one of the most tradeable players. His value will probably never be higher than it is now and I can't see the Eagles paying market value for a DT who plays 13-15 snaps per game. It just doesn't make sense. I can't even think of who you'd compare him to he plays that little.  

These are all of the current DT contracts above Jordan Davis right now. He's not going to sign a contract for less than his rookie deal. Who on this list can you compare JD to? I look at Christian Barmore, but his lowest snap count is still higher than Jordan Davis's highest snap count. 

JD has played 26%, 45% and 37% of the snaps in his first 3 years. He's a part time player that was acquired by trading 4 draft picks. If we're being realistic, based on performance, he should be getting Bilal Nichols type of money and even that's a stretch. Nichols lowest snap count, as a 5th rounder, was 36% his rookie year. Since then he's averaged 57% of the snaps. Do you think JD would sign a 3-year $21 million extension? 

Linval Joseph played 24% of the snaps for Dallas this year and had 2 sacks on a 1-year $2.5 million contract. They could trade JD and replace him with a veteran to eat those snaps.

Player	Team	Age	Total Value ▾	Avg./Year	Total Guaranteed	Fully Guaranteed	Free Agency
Chris Jones	Chiefs	31	$158,750,000	$31,750,000	$95,000,000	$60,000,000	2029 UFA
Christian Wilkins	Raiders	30	$110,000,000	$27,500,000	$82,750,000	$57,500,000	2028 Void
Nnamdi Madubuike	Ravens	28	$98,000,000	$24,500,000	$75,500,000	$48,500,000	2028 Void
Alim McNeill	Lions	25	$97,000,000	$24,250,000	$55,060,667	$28,060,667	2029 Void
Quinnen Williams	Jets	28	$96,000,000	$24,000,000	$66,000,000	$47,835,000	2028 Void
Derrick Brown	Panthers	27	$96,000,000	$24,000,000	$63,165,000	$41,165,000	2029 UFA
Jeffery Simmons	Titans	28	$94,000,000	$23,500,000	$59,330,000	$47,830,000	2028 UFA
Dexter Lawrence	Giants	28	$90,000,000	$22,500,000	$59,000,000	$46,500,000	2028 UFA
Daron Payne	Commanders	28	$90,000,000	$22,500,000	$60,020,000	$46,010,000	2027 Void
Christian Barmore	Patriots	26	$84,000,000	$21,000,000	$41,822,128	$31,822,128	2029 UFA
Javon Hargrave	49ers	32	$84,000,000	$21,000,000	$40,000,000	$40,000,000	2025 Void
Jonathan Allen	Commanders	30	$72,000,000	$18,000,000	$35,642,235	$33,142,235	2026 UFA
Vita Vea	Buccaneers	30	$71,000,000	$17,750,000	$40,596,440	$14,734,440	2027 Void
Ed Oliver	Bills	28	$68,000,000	$17,000,000	$45,278,000	$24,528,000	2028 UFA
Leonard Williams	Seahawks	31	$64,500,000	$21,500,000	$43,850,000	$26,150,000	2027 Void
Kenny Clark	Packers	30	$64,000,000	$21,333,333	$17,500,000	$17,500,000	2028 UFA
Dalvin Tomlinson	Browns	31	$57,000,000	$14,250,000	$27,500,000	$25,000,000	2027 Void
Dre'Mont Jones	Seahawks	28	$51,530,000	$17,176,667	$30,000,000	$23,000,000	2026 Void
Grady Jarrett	Falcons	32	$49,500,000	$16,500,000	$36,470,588	$34,470,588	2026 UFA
DeForest Buckner	Colts	31	$46,000,000	$23,000,000	$53,250,000	$43,250,000	2027 Void
Zach Allen	Broncos	28	$45,750,000	$15,250,000	$32,500,000	$32,500,000	2026 Void
Grover Stewart	Colts	32	$39,000,000	$13,000,000	$25,730,000	$17,990,000	2027 UFA
David Onyemata	Falcons	33	$35,000,000	$11,666,667	$24,500,000	$24,500,000	2026 Void
Davon Hamilton	Jaguars	28	$34,500,000	$11,500,000	$23,000,000	$20,000,000	2027 Void
Zach Sieler	Dolphins	30	$30,750,000	$10,250,000	$20,000,000	$17,725,000	2027 Void
Justin Jones	Cardinals	29	$30,165,000	$10,055,000	$19,750,000	$17,750,000	2027 UFA
D.J. Jones	Broncos	30	$30,000,000	$10,000,000	$20,000,000	$20,000,000	2025 UFA
B.J. Hill	Bengals	30	$30,000,000	$10,000,000	$13,000,000	$13,000,000	2025 UFA
Cameron Heyward	Steelers	36	$29,000,000	$14,500,000	$16,000,000	$16,000,000	2027 UFA
Larry Ogunjobi	Steelers	31	$28,750,000	$9,583,333	$17,000,000	$12,000,000	2026 UFA
Maliek Collins	49ers	30	$23,000,000	$11,500,000	$18,500,000	$18,500,000	2026 Void
A'Shawn Robinson	Panthers	30	$22,500,000	$7,500,000	$10,375,000	$7,375,000	2027 UFA
D.J. Reader	Lions	31	$22,000,000	$11,000,000	$7,425,000	$7,425,000	2026 Void
Jalen Carter	Eagles	24	$21,806,184	$5,451,546	$21,806,184	$21,806,184	2027 UFA
Roy Robertson-Harris	Seahawks	32	$21,600,000	$7,200,000	$14,400,000	$14,400,000	2027 Void
Bilal Nichols	Cardinals	29	$21,000,000	$7,000,000	$14,390,000	$12,000,000	2027 UFA
Shy Tuttle	Panthers	30	$19,500,000	$6,500,000	$13,000,000	$13,000,000	2026 Void
Davon Godchaux	Patriots	31	$18,000,000	$9,000,000	$16,650,000	$15,650,000	2027 UFA
Jordan Davis	Eagles	25	$17,009,278	$4,252,320	$17,009,278	$17,009,278	2026 UFA

I think those who want to keep him are thinking of keeping all the GA Bulldogs together. Which does hold some value. But at some point a couple will leave. He is not worth keeping over Ojomo or Williams going forward. He is who he is. I trust Fangio here. 

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I think those who want to keep him are thinking of keeping all the GA Bulldogs together. Which does hold some value. But at some point a couple will leave. He is not worth keeping over Ojomo or Williams going forward. He is who he is. I trust Fangio here. 

I'd assume that's how some are viewing it, but let's keep the best Eagles together, not the best UGA alum. 

5 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Offseason rules as per the NFLPA.

https://nflpa.com/active-players/off-season-rules

No restrictions on when players can do things on their own, the only restrictions related to 'organized' team activities.  

 

 

From the "FULL RULES"
During the offseason program period, except for the ten days of organized team practice activity and minicamps, players may be (1) at the Club facility no more than four hours per day, no more than four days per week, and not during weekends; and (2) on the field no more than ninety minutes per day. In addition, the Club may not specify to any player more than two specific hours a day during which it suggests that the player be at club facilities. Any player participating in an offseason workout program may select the other two hours in which he wishes to attend to conduct his weight training, etc., as long as he does so during the hours of operations of the Club's weight room. During the ten days of organized team activity, players may be (1) at the Club facility no more than six hours per day; and (2) on the field no more than two hours per day. Time limits at the Club facility and on the field for minicamps and for players participating in a Club's Rookie Football Development Program shall be as set forth in Article 22 of this Agreement.

 

 

There are no restrictions for what players do on their own... just WHERE they are allowed to do it.

Saquon has his own football field at his house I could see them hanging out there 

Players need to grow up if they are going to make a big deal about the Georgia thing. They are professionals now, not still in college. Being in college together shouldn’t dictate moves at this level. 

27 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK so the argument continues.

If LB thrive because of Fangio, why overpay for a LB when it's assumed they might be able to find a LB to play his best in this defense?

It's the same argument for those saying Milton Williams is only thriving because he plays next to Jalen Carter. 

Who's benefiting more/ Baun because of Fangio or Williams because of Carter? 

I want both back because both were difference makers and make game changing plays. You don't just find that with every player you bring in. 

Baun may be an extreme case, but that argument is still valid.  Milton?…was he 1st team AP?  

Fangio may have made Baun looked better than others could have…but now he’s been ‘uncorked’ so to speak.  

30 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

All I know is that it's exhausting on twitter right now. Both sides are so arrogant and condescending with their comments. I hate social media so much. I wish there was a way to read the news that I wanted to read without the draining online fighting. 

It’s a cesspool there. It’s never been about keeping politics out of sports, it’s always been about "keep politics that I disagree with out of sports.” The same people complaining about the rumor that they turned down the invite would be applauding if Kamala won and they turned down her invite. The same people who cheered Nick Bosa wearing a MAGA hat would have cried if he wore a Kamala one. But for the sake of turning this into CVON I’ll stop there. 

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Lurie doing the right thing this time and not forcing his personal politics on the rest of the team.  Lot of fake news surrounding this was floating around the past 24 hours.

 

 

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Just say they're going to go and then don't show up.  Send the soccer team in their place. 

Could be worse. Could send Embiid in a wheelchair 

29 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'd assume that's how some are viewing it, but let's keep the best Eagles together, not the best UGA alum. 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Players need to grow up if they are going to make a big deal about the Georgia thing. They are professionals now, not still in college. Being in college together shouldn’t dictate moves at this level. 

I've seen posts about keeping Davis to keep Carter happy. Screw that

A serious consideration for teams interested in either Baum or Becton is whether they think their DC or OL coach can get as much out of them as Fangio and Stoutland can. Vaitai never played as well elsewhere as he did here. OTOH, Seumalo did. This may reduce the offers our guys will get elsewhere.

 

 

 

 

56 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think it’s weird New Orleans hasn’t announced Nussmeier yet. 

Maybe their plan is just to promote Jason Michael from TE’s to QB. He’s a Sirianni guy and has been a QB coach in the past. 

NO is a trash franchise.  It's been on NFL.com.    Even if they plan a promotion which I doubt then they'd have to hire a TE coach.   I just hope the plan isn't to go without.  They need someone new besides Parks Recreation

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

 

 

 

 

Baun, Becton, and Rodgers all day at those numbers

Maybe get Baun at $13-14 million/year with incentives to make up the difference 

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

 

 

 

This is what makes sense. You get the most out of Williams and Carter for 2 years at the least. You move him if you have to after 2 years or you extend him. Keep as much of the D together as possible. 

7 minutes ago, just relax said:

A serious consideration for teams interested in either Baum or Becton is whether they think their DC or OL coach can get as much out of them as Fangio and Stoutland can. Vaitai never played as well elsewhere as he did here. OTOH, Seumalo did. This may reduce the offers our guys will get elsewhere.

I'm curious if Becton goes will he be a guard again or a tackle