2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, I'm with this. Jordan Davis and his 13 snaps per game is easier to replace than Milton Williams and the havoc he creates. They can find another big body to eat 13 snaps. Not taking away from Jordan Davis and his impact on the run game, I just think they can replicate that with another player.

Davis had 388 Defensive snaps in 17 games.  More than 21 snaps per game, not 13 snaps per game.  Plus he had 145 Special Teams snaps, another 8 snaps a game.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Davis had 388 Defensive snaps in 17 games.  More than 21 snaps per game, not 13 snaps per game.  Plus he had 145 Special Teams snaps, another 8 snaps a game.

…and he lit it up late in the season and through the playoffs whenever he had a chance to play.  Multiple sacks through the playoffs, etc 

3 hours ago, pallidrone said:

Or maybe they are looking at a heavy set with Davis and Jackson in the middle with Carter and someone else on the end.

Jamoree Caldwell from Oregon is another heavy set possibility in the Draft.

Just now, pgcd3 said:

They aren’t getting Campbell for the simple fact that it’s February and people are mocking him to them at 32. There’s no way that can turn out to be right

I haven't seen that anywhere. Jihaad can easily move to pure edge like they did with Nolan if you wanted, but he brings so much to the table not sure why Vic would put him a box like that. DJ has him going at 29 to the Commies but also as his 12th ranked player overall. Ahead of guys like Williams, Green, Stewart, Pearce, Nolan, Alexander, Pearce, Scourton. 

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Davis had 388 Defensive snaps in 17 games.  More than 21 snaps per game, not 13 snaps per game.  Plus he had 145 Special Teams snaps, another 8 snaps a game.

When the games mattered most in the playoffs, he was 13, 17, 13 and then 14 I believe in the SB. The defense was totally different after the bye and his snaps fluctuated a lot. I'm guessing based on the opponent. Still, not a huge amount of snaps for him. 

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7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Jalyx Hunt is great.  He also went into depth about his pass rush plan against Thuney.  

He will be a star in this defense. 

2 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

It's always blown out of proportion, but to me the common sense answer is to accept the invite and whoever wants to go can go and whoever doesn't is fine to deny it. That's my $0.02 at least. 

I’ll add my two cents to your two.  Good logic.

3 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

All time loser energy.  "No skill involved", yet no team can run in close to as well as the Eagles. How about you use some of your skill to not let the Eagles get into 3rd and 4th and short. 

 

 

 

That argument is stupid. The skill is in linemen blocking and the QB sneaking low like in a regular QB sneak. The push isn't even the biggest part of it. You see times where the "pushers" are barely doing anything because the line and Hurts move so fast at the snap.

The Eagles need to put together a highlight reel of RBs and WRs being pushed to a 1st down or TD, and the times other QBs have done a push type play before Hurts was even in the league.

Like when Brady was praised for it:

 

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

He's one of the most tradeable players. His value will probably never be higher than it is now and I can't see the Eagles paying market value for a DT who plays 13-15 snaps per game. It just doesn't make sense. I can't even think of who you'd compare him to he plays that little.  

These are all of the current DT contracts above Jordan Davis right now. He's not going to sign a contract for less than his rookie deal. Who on this list can you compare JD to? I look at Christian Barmore, but his lowest snap count is still higher than Jordan Davis's highest snap count. 

JD has played 26%, 45% and 37% of the snaps in his first 3 years. He's a part time player that was acquired by trading 4 draft picks. If we're being realistic, based on performance, he should be getting Bilal Nichols type of money and even that's a stretch. Nichols lowest snap count, as a 5th rounder, was 36% his rookie year. Since then he's averaged 57% of the snaps. Do you think JD would sign a 3-year $21 million extension? 

Linval Joseph played 24% of the snaps for Dallas this year and had 2 sacks on a 1-year $2.5 million contract. They could trade JD and replace him with a veteran to eat those snaps.

Player	Team	Age	Total Value ▾	Avg./Year	Total Guaranteed	Fully Guaranteed	Free Agency
Chris Jones	Chiefs	31	$158,750,000	$31,750,000	$95,000,000	$60,000,000	2029 UFA
Christian Wilkins	Raiders	30	$110,000,000	$27,500,000	$82,750,000	$57,500,000	2028 Void
Nnamdi Madubuike	Ravens	28	$98,000,000	$24,500,000	$75,500,000	$48,500,000	2028 Void
Alim McNeill	Lions	25	$97,000,000	$24,250,000	$55,060,667	$28,060,667	2029 Void
Quinnen Williams	Jets	28	$96,000,000	$24,000,000	$66,000,000	$47,835,000	2028 Void
Derrick Brown	Panthers	27	$96,000,000	$24,000,000	$63,165,000	$41,165,000	2029 UFA
Jeffery Simmons	Titans	28	$94,000,000	$23,500,000	$59,330,000	$47,830,000	2028 UFA
Dexter Lawrence	Giants	28	$90,000,000	$22,500,000	$59,000,000	$46,500,000	2028 UFA
Daron Payne	Commanders	28	$90,000,000	$22,500,000	$60,020,000	$46,010,000	2027 Void
Christian Barmore	Patriots	26	$84,000,000	$21,000,000	$41,822,128	$31,822,128	2029 UFA
Javon Hargrave	49ers	32	$84,000,000	$21,000,000	$40,000,000	$40,000,000	2025 Void
Jonathan Allen	Commanders	30	$72,000,000	$18,000,000	$35,642,235	$33,142,235	2026 UFA
Vita Vea	Buccaneers	30	$71,000,000	$17,750,000	$40,596,440	$14,734,440	2027 Void
Ed Oliver	Bills	28	$68,000,000	$17,000,000	$45,278,000	$24,528,000	2028 UFA
Leonard Williams	Seahawks	31	$64,500,000	$21,500,000	$43,850,000	$26,150,000	2027 Void
Kenny Clark	Packers	30	$64,000,000	$21,333,333	$17,500,000	$17,500,000	2028 UFA
Dalvin Tomlinson	Browns	31	$57,000,000	$14,250,000	$27,500,000	$25,000,000	2027 Void
Dre'Mont Jones	Seahawks	28	$51,530,000	$17,176,667	$30,000,000	$23,000,000	2026 Void
Grady Jarrett	Falcons	32	$49,500,000	$16,500,000	$36,470,588	$34,470,588	2026 UFA
DeForest Buckner	Colts	31	$46,000,000	$23,000,000	$53,250,000	$43,250,000	2027 Void
Zach Allen	Broncos	28	$45,750,000	$15,250,000	$32,500,000	$32,500,000	2026 Void
Grover Stewart	Colts	32	$39,000,000	$13,000,000	$25,730,000	$17,990,000	2027 UFA
David Onyemata	Falcons	33	$35,000,000	$11,666,667	$24,500,000	$24,500,000	2026 Void
Davon Hamilton	Jaguars	28	$34,500,000	$11,500,000	$23,000,000	$20,000,000	2027 Void
Zach Sieler	Dolphins	30	$30,750,000	$10,250,000	$20,000,000	$17,725,000	2027 Void
Justin Jones	Cardinals	29	$30,165,000	$10,055,000	$19,750,000	$17,750,000	2027 UFA
D.J. Jones	Broncos	30	$30,000,000	$10,000,000	$20,000,000	$20,000,000	2025 UFA
B.J. Hill	Bengals	30	$30,000,000	$10,000,000	$13,000,000	$13,000,000	2025 UFA
Cameron Heyward	Steelers	36	$29,000,000	$14,500,000	$16,000,000	$16,000,000	2027 UFA
Larry Ogunjobi	Steelers	31	$28,750,000	$9,583,333	$17,000,000	$12,000,000	2026 UFA
Maliek Collins	49ers	30	$23,000,000	$11,500,000	$18,500,000	$18,500,000	2026 Void
A'Shawn Robinson	Panthers	30	$22,500,000	$7,500,000	$10,375,000	$7,375,000	2027 UFA
D.J. Reader	Lions	31	$22,000,000	$11,000,000	$7,425,000	$7,425,000	2026 Void
Jalen Carter	Eagles	24	$21,806,184	$5,451,546	$21,806,184	$21,806,184	2027 UFA
Roy Robertson-Harris	Seahawks	32	$21,600,000	$7,200,000	$14,400,000	$14,400,000	2027 Void
Bilal Nichols	Cardinals	29	$21,000,000	$7,000,000	$14,390,000	$12,000,000	2027 UFA
Shy Tuttle	Panthers	30	$19,500,000	$6,500,000	$13,000,000	$13,000,000	2026 Void
Davon Godchaux	Patriots	31	$18,000,000	$9,000,000	$16,650,000	$15,650,000	2027 UFA
Jordan Davis	Eagles	25	$17,009,278	$4,252,320	$17,009,278	$17,009,278	2026 UFA

You are focusing on snap quantity and ignoring the importance of those snaps (snap quality). The snaps Davis takes are the ones where the opposition is trying to establish a multi-dimensional game plan so that the Eagles are having to do a lot of guessing in their Defensive Scheme.  Davis being the centerpiece of taking away (denying/throttleing) the run game, and forcing the opponent to be one dimensional plays into the hands (plays to the strengths) of Fangio’s lite box Scheme.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Lurie doing the right thing this time and not forcing his personal politics on the rest of the team.  Lot of fake news surrounding this was floating around the past 24 hours.

Good for him. Political opinions are just opinions and you know what they say about opinions.

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

OK so the argument continues.

If LB thrive because of Fangio, why overpay for a LB when it's assumed they might be able to find a LB to play his best in this defense?

It's the same argument for those saying Milton Williams is only thriving because he plays next to Jalen Carter. 

Who's benefiting more/ Baun because of Fangio or Williams because of Carter? 

I want both back because both were difference makers and make game changing plays. You don't just find that with every player you bring in. 

The difference is that unlike Carter, Fangio doesn’t go out on the field and take snaps.  Further, I would say that Fangio’s light box Scheme actually puts more responsibility on the LBs shoulders rather than less.  His LBs truly have to be masters of both pass coverage and run support … which is why I like Jihaad Campbell so much in their Defensive Scheme Draft.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Cappuccino. I asked for a trenta cappuccino. 

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I believe it’s a requirement if you want to host a Super Bowl unless if you’re in a warm climate. Lurie talked about this for Philly and wanting to host big events, but that’d require a dome. 

MetLife had a Super Bowl. Philly had a WrestleMania last year. It’s definitely a part of the consideration but not a requirement. 

I think the biggest thing going against a Philly SB is location in the city more than anything. 

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I believe it’s a requirement if you want to host a Super Bowl unless if you’re in a warm climate. Lurie talked about this for Philly and wanting to host big events, but that’d require a dome. 

Yeah… people are not going to like it, but it’s going to happen…eventually 

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

I think Jihaad is unicorn like. Can play off the LB at a very high level, also has a very high ceiling at rushing the passer. Think he's the better prospect when Nolan came out whom we selected at 31. If they want to strictly move him to the edge then he comes into play for us in round 1, but he also brings the other elements. I can't even imagine what Vic could do with both Baun & Jihaad. I'd absolutely love the selection at 32 or even with a slight trade up to land him. 

He is the top player on my Board. I second your statement, "I can’t even imagine what Vic could do with both Baun & Jihaad”

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

MetLife had a Super Bowl. Philly had a WrestleMania last year. It’s definitely a part of the consideration but not a requirement. 

I think the biggest thing going against a Philly SB is location in the city more than anything. 

We’re getting World Cup games next summer (6 I think)… and the baseball all star game… and something to do with the 1776ers.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

MetLife had a Super Bowl. Philly had a WrestleMania last year. It’s definitely a part of the consideration but not a requirement. 

I think the biggest thing going against a Philly SB is location in the city more than anything. 

Pretty sure WWE said they’ll never do it again because of the cold weather

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Living in KS now I know a lot of people that would be excited about this.

Its literally like a move across a street and thats it.

Having said that as a lifelong eagle fan im not too pleased about my taxes going towards building the chiefs a new home ...😒

23 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Good for him. Political opinions are just opinions and you know what they say about opinions.

What if youre born without one though?

BREAKING: The #NYG submitted a proposal to ban Saquon Barkley. #Eagles

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Given that New York State shares a 445 mile border with Ontario and Quebec, I submit proposal that the N.Y. Giants leave the NFL and joint the CFL. Maybe they'll win more than 3 games a season. 🙂

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

MetLife had a Super Bowl. Philly had a WrestleMania last year. It’s definitely a part of the consideration but not a requirement. 

I think the biggest thing going against a Philly SB is location in the city more than anything. 

Mania was in April, which is warmer. I think the MetLife thing was a one and done by the NFL. Too risky hosting an outdoor event in February in the northeast. They got lucky that the weather wasn't terrible in NJ for that Super Bowl. 

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

People will praise Howie and say they had no concern if he manages to get Baun, Becton, and Williams yet for days they've acted like we can only sign 1 guy

If he signs all 3... and doesn't lose Jurgens, Carter, Q or DeJean in the process... I will be stunned, but will absolutely praise Howie for it.  And I will most definitely not pretend that this was a slam dunk.   WANTING all 3 back is absolutely a no-brainer.   Being able to actually make it happen?   That seems like wizardry.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If he signs all 3... and doesn't lose Jurgens, Carter, Q or DeJean in the process... I will be stunned, but will absolutely praise Howie for it.  And I will most definitely not pretend that this was a slam dunk.   WANTING all 3 back is absolutely a no-brainer.   Being able to actually make it happen?   That seems like wizardry.  

Well I've been told for possibly a decade or more that he's a cap wizard

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’d say feels a little high on Baun and too low on Becton/Rodgers. 

That's Matt Milano level pay.   I'd say that seems about right, and maybe a little low.  There's no way he resets the level, but I see anything between $15M-$18M per year as the likely target space.  

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

They want to host a Super Bowl... and you just know that people will be super excited to attend a Super Bowl in Kansas in February!   HUGE money coming to the prairie!