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1 minute ago, RLC said:

One of the bigger UFAs last year. He should go back to Cinci and not Dallas.

Any interest?

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1 hour ago, tuffstuff07 said:

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Even if directly pushing the QB is outlawed, lining those two up shoulder to shoulder with Hurts and all three driving forward at the snap behind the O-Line push would produce the desired results just as frequently.

 

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2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

One other point I think the law of averages is working against Howie.  Sure he is good but you don't hit that many draft picks without an eventual regression. Same with 1-yr deals tho he did have misses with those

I don’t like this argument much. It assumes that all picks are governed by a Gaussian probability distribution. Howie’s track record has shown consistent improvement over recent years and he will have 20 picks to work with these next two years. I would anticipate a better than normal distribution. He’s not just rolling dice.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No. I think S, CB, DE, LB, RG, TE are all possibilities. I’d say at least 1 of those will happen. 

Fairly certain DE/OLB/RG, TE will all be drafted starters. S and CB I could see non-drafted. 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

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It would be even funnier if Wilson goes to Cleveland and then Steelers/Giants have no QBs 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Absolutely... but where would you put the odds that Howie will hit the nail on the head on all of the picks in the first three rounds again?   I'd say that the odds are he'd regress back toward the mean more than maintain his position.   That's not to say that they necessarily have to come all the way back to the mean, but instead of hitting on all 3 picks, maybe they fall back to the 2020 draft... Reagor, Hurts, Taylor, Wallace, Driscoll, Hightower, Bradley, Watkins, Prince Tego... and Toohill.   With that we hit it with Hurts, got a decent backup OL in Driscoll, but the rest were busts - maybe one could argue that Watkins was merely disappointing or frustrating, but there's no defense for any of the others. 

My point is... he's been hitting at such a high rate, the odds are he won't be able to maintain that level forever.   Ted Williams was arguably the greatest hitter in the history of baseball... but even he had the occasional slump.  It happens to the best.  No one would say he didn't have a clear advantage... supposedly, his eyesight was ridiculous, and his pitch recognition nearly flawless in a fraction of the time others take to react... but even he had some 'down' years compared to others.   A career 0.344 hitter, he did have years that were nuts... he hit 0.406 once (had two very short injury plagued seasons where he hits 0.400 and 0.407 respectively in a combined 43 games...) but also had years where he hit "ONLY" 0.317 or 0.318 (very rarely).  Those were still great seasons by most measurements, but clearly were a regression toward the mean and were significantly below HIS mean. 

Howie is going to have seasons below HIS mean, and towards the league mean, even if he's still significantly higher than the competition.  This year might be one of those years, especially with fewer top talents in the pool to choose from... and fewer top QB prospects to push talent further into range of grabbing them.

Good thoughts, and I find the Ted Williams analogy both compelling and limited.  There is a huge physical execution aspect of hitting in MLB that I don’t think exists for Howie and drafting.  I propose replacing, with your permission, Ted Williams and hitting a baseball with Boris Spasky and playing chess, or if you want to add a bit of Mercury to the analogy Bobby Fischer and playing chess.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would be even funnier if Wilson goes to Cleveland and then Steelers/Giants have no QBs 

What’s also funny is the report if the Vikings don’t offer him a contract then Rodgers might opt to retire. Lol

7 minutes ago, GoEagles614 said:

Fairly certain DE/OLB/RG, TE will all be drafted starters. S and CB I could see non-drafted. 

Highly likely, I just think all those positions will probably be some sort of camp competition which could open the door to a diamond in the rough guy winning the job. Granted they aren’t exactly adding competitive players though. I don’t think anyone saw Becton or any FA starting over Steen this time last year.

TE depends on what happens with Goedert. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would be even funnier if Wilson goes to Cleveland and then Steelers/Giants have no QBs 

Won’t be so funny for Kenny Pickett, although I doubt he forces his way out again so soon 😂

3 hours ago, TEW said:

I agree with your general point, but to play Devil’s advocate, wouldn’t the consistent success indicate an edge we are exploiting? 

Absolutely, first and foremost there are the experienced old souls Fangio and Stoutland, but I would also say that the Eagles scouting department with both its college and pro scouting wings are helping our recent drafting history to fly.

This looks way too similar to the white couch meme 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This looks way too similar to the white couch meme 

That was my FIRST thought. The Internet has ruined me. 

Why can't Jalyx Hunt be EDGE2 this year? He really got better as the year went along, now gets a full off-season in an NFL weight room. We saw Nolan take a year 2 leap, and Jalyx has even more runway to get better.

We don't need a starting EDGE as much as we need a functional EDGE3 if someone gets hurt.

34 minutes ago, RLC said:

One of the bigger UFAs last year. He should go back to Cinci and not Dallas.

That’s quite the coincidence that his name just came up because I was trying to think of his name the other day. He was actually the defending NFL chess champion that Drue Tranquill beat to win the title.

25 minutes ago, just relax said:

I don’t like this argument much. It assumes that all picks are governed by a Gaussian probability distribution. Howie’s track record has shown consistent improvement over recent years and he will have 20 picks to work with these next two years. I would anticipate a better than normal distribution. He’s not just rolling dice.

I am guessing owners have either a negative or neutral impact on the draft. I firmly believe Lurie moved from one to the other after a few draft disasters. Other teams have not been as fortunate. 

I mean, he could, but do you want to go into a Super Bowl or bust season like that? Hunt was good this year, particularly compared to expectations. But it's not like he dominated. It's a lot to ask a guy who barely played until BG got hurt, to not only start, but increase his snaps. And we haven't seen a full season of production from Nolan either.

It's not so much whether he is capable of doing it, than it is if he isn't, the team is totally Fed unless they add a 1st or 2nd round Edge who can play. Because if Nolan or Hunt hit regression, you have absolute slop behind them. And forbid one of them goes down and has to miss a few games... the Eagles would be in serious trouble.

A lot of variance at the Edge for the Eagles. I think they have a ceiling of good(not great, they don't have a Myles Garrett) but a really low floor. A little bit of bad luck or regression and Edge could be a major problem for this team barring them doing something big there in the draft, which is entirely possible if not likely.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Why can't Jalyx Hunt be EDGE2 this year? He really got better as the year went along, now gets a full off-season in an NFL weight room. We saw Nolan take a year 2 leap, and Jalyx has even more runway to get better.

We don't need a starting EDGE as much as we need a functional EDGE3 if someone gets hurt.

He CAN. But banking on it has a high risk of busting. Needs competition. 

52 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:


something tells me no comp pick for that contract 

He's close to having hit the NFC East sweep now.

Brian Mitchell also hit 3.  How many others hit at least 3?  Did any hit all 4?

On 3/14/2025 at 12:03 PM, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

THE DAGGER RIPPED THEIR HEARTS OUT!

46 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Agreed, but in each case the draft pick was a success.

In each case, the draft failed mission #1.  Mission #1 was to play with the right uniform.  That failed.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He's close to having hit the NFC East sweep now.

Brian Mitchell also hit 3.  How many others hit at least 3?  Did any hit all 4?

Hershel Walker was 3. I can’t think of a 4 but there’s probably some obscure name that did 

13 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I am guessing owners have either a negative or neutral impact on the draft. I firmly believe Lurie moved from one to the other after a few draft disasters. Other teams have not been as fortunate. 

High probability of that.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Hershel Walker was 3. I can’t think of a 4 but there’s probably some obscure name that did 

I cheated and looked it up. A QB named Josh Johnson played for all four NFC-E teams and ten others as well.

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I mean, he could, but do you want to go into a Super Bowl or bust season like that? Hunt was good this year, particularly compared to expectations. But it's not like he dominated. It's a lot to ask a guy who barely played until BG got hurt, to not only start, but increase his snaps. And we haven't seen a full season of production from Nolan either.

It's not so much whether he is capable of doing it, than it is if he isn't, the team is totally Fed unless they add a 1st or 2nd round Edge who can play. Because if Nolan or Hunt hit regression, you have absolute slop behind them. And forbid one of them goes down and has to miss a few games... the Eagles would be in serious trouble.

A lot of variance at the Edge for the Eagles. I think they have a ceiling of good(not great, they don't have a Myles Garrett) but a really low floor. A little bit of bad luck or regression and Edge could be a major problem for this team barring them doing something big there in the draft, which is entirely possible if not likely.

Hunt doesn't replace Sweat, he upgrades him.

Hunt is a true 3-4 OLB with pass coverage skills and he'll be more effective against the run as he add strength to that frame. So even if he isn't as explosive off the edge as Sweat, he has more value b/c he allows Fangio to disguise his pass rush more effectively - the reason Fangio can rush 4 and avoid blitzing is b/c he has 6 or 7 guys near the LOS who can rush the passer, and Hunt, Baun and Smith can all drop into coverage and be effective. And that both messes with the QB's head and screws up blocking assignments.

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