4 minutes ago, just relax said:

I cheated and looked it up. A QB named Josh Johnson played for all four NFC-E teams and ten others as well.

In what year was he with the Eagles?

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

Hunt doesn't replace Sweat, he upgrades him.

Hunt is a true 3-4 OLB with pass coverage skills and he'll be more effective against the run as he add strength to that frame. So even if he isn't as explosive off the edge as Sweat, he has more value b/c he allows Fangio to disguise his pass rush more effectively - the reason Fangio can rush 4 and avoid blitzing is b/c he has 6 or 7 guys near the LOS who can rush the passer, and Hunt, Baun and Smith can all drop into coverage and be effective. And that both messes with the QB's head and screws up blocking assignments.

Absurd to make that proclamation this prematurely. Sweat was a really good player for the Eagles. To say Hunt is better than him after basically only seeing him play for a month is pure homerism. He may prove to be better in time, but to say that now is just being a homer. Let's not go crazy here. And btw if Fangio thought he was better he would've played more than Sweat.

1 hour ago, just relax said:

I don’t like this argument much. It assumes that all picks are governed by a Gaussian probability distribution. Howie’s track record has shown consistent improvement over recent years and he will have 20 picks to work with these next two years. I would anticipate a better than normal distribution. He’s not just rolling dice.

Agreed… I am actually a big believer in a law of averages, but only when the probabilities are consistent. If one GM is better than the others, then the probabilities are not consistent.  

All that being said, he has been on an unreal run… And I don’t expect it to be quite as good… But still good..

 

1 minute ago, McMVP said:

Agreed… I am actually a big believer in a law of averages, but only when the probabilities are consistent. If one GM is better than the others, then the probabilities are not consistent.  

All that being said, he has been an unreal run… And I don’t expect it to be quite as good… But still good..

 

Regression to the mean doesn't necessarily mean regression to the league mean, but to his own mean.  

29 minutes ago, RLC said:

Why can't Jalyx Hunt be EDGE2 this year? He really got better as the year went along, now gets a full off-season in an NFL weight room. We saw Nolan take a year 2 leap, and Jalyx has even more runway to get better.

We don't need a starting EDGE as much as we need a functional EDGE3 if someone gets hurt.

He can be… If he develops to be that.  But I don’t think you are going into the draft assuming that’s the case.  I don’t believe they will make any assumptions… They always prioritize the lines.

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

In what year was he with the Eagles?

I went to several other sites and none of them had him playing for the Eagles. He did play against them. Once.

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

I went to several other sites and none of them had him playing for the Eagles. He did play against them. Once.

So, he had to be back when the NFC East had 5 teams.

35 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

He CAN. But banking on it has a high risk of busting. Needs competition. 

I dont see the high risk of busting. At all. Kid did nothing but improve through last year and was very good in the playoffs

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So, he had to be back when the NFC East had 5 teams.

He was the backup QB to Purdy who also got knocked out in the 2022 NFCCG.

Thanks for LIX, Parris. 

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

He was the backup QB to Purdy who also got knocked out in the 2022 NFCCG.

Ah... that guy.  I see him with Washington.   When was he with two other NFC East teams?  I see Giants, I assume as a PS guy or TC only.  

21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I dont see the high risk of busting. At all. Kid did nothing but improve through last year and was very good in the playoffs

He's a converted safety, not a college DE trying to learn how to play LB.

People need to see Hunt not as an edge rusher, but as a 3-4 OLB. Baun is a good edge rusher, but he's an ILB.

Sweat and Reddick were pure edge rushers, they looked awkward dropping into coverage, which limited Fangio's options.

With Smith, Hunt and Baun, Fangio has "tinker toys."

Huff is the pure edge rusher coming off the bench on obvious passing downs.

45 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Regression to the mean doesn't necessarily mean regression to the league mean, but to his own mean.  

Also, Howie won't be picking as high so the exercise will be a more difficult one. Not apples to apples. DeVonta Smith, Jordan Davis, and Jalen Carter were all higher draft picks then he's going to have again for the next few years. And Howie got a little luck on his side with so many teams going offense and letting the best CB in the draft drop into his lap last year. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

In each case, the draft failed mission #1.  Mission #1 was to play with the right uniform.  That failed.

You are describing mission #2.  Your mission #1 was successfully achieved from  just before May 1st through just before September 1st.  Further, mission #2 isn’t a Draft activity it is a roster management activity.

4 minutes ago, shlo said:

Also, Howie won't be picking as high so the exercise will be a more difficult one. Not apples to apples. DeVonta Smith, Jordan Davis, and Jalen Carter were all higher draft picks then he's going to have again for the next few years. And Howie got a little luck on his side with so many teams going offense and letting the best CB in the draft drop into his lap last year. 

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Howie was superbly prepared.

6 minutes ago, shlo said:

Also, Howie won't be picking as high so the exercise will be a more difficult one. Not apples to apples. DeVonta Smith, Jordan Davis, and Jalen Carter were all higher draft picks then he's going to have again for the next few years. And Howie got a little luck on his side with so many teams going offense and letting the best CB in the draft drop into his lap last year. 

The success over the last few years in the Round 2 and 3 makes me feel better about the Round 1 and 2 this year even picking so late.   Round 3 basically being in Round 4 makes me less confident.  But... that's why they get paid the big bucks.  They need to earn it.

18 minutes ago, austinfan said:

He's a converted safety, not a college DE trying to learn how to play LB.

People need to see Hunt not as an edge rusher, but as a 3-4 OLB. Baun is a good edge rusher, but he's an ILB.

Sweat and Reddick were pure edge rushers, they looked awkward dropping into coverage, which limited Fangio's options.

With Smith, Hunt and Baun, Fangio has "tinker toys."

Huff is the pure edge rusher coming off the bench on obvious passing downs.

I suspect Uche may prove to be another tinker toy.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Absurd to make that proclamation this prematurely. Sweat was a really good player for the Eagles. To say Hunt is better than him after basically only seeing him play for a month is pure homerism. He may prove to be better in time, but to say that now is just being a homer. Let's not go crazy here. And btw if Fangio thought he was better he would've played more than Sweat.

Fangio is very good at plying situational matching of the players he puts on the field, so I wouldn’t read too much into how much each player played (how many snaps they got)

45 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ah... that guy.  I see him with Washington.   When was he with two other NFC East teams?  I see Giants, I assume as a PS guy or TC only.  

 

51 minutes ago, just relax said:

He was the backup QB to Purdy who also got knocked out in the 2022 NFCCG.

 

59 minutes ago, just relax said:

I went to several other sites and none of them had him playing for the Eagles. He did play against them. Once.

 

1 hour ago, just relax said:

I cheated and looked it up. A QB named Josh Johnson played for all four NFC-E teams and ten others as well.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would be even funnier if Wilson goes to Cleveland and then Steelers/Giants have no QBs 

I don't think Giants would mind. Suck for Arch 

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

That is the glass half empty perspective.  Here is a glass half full perspective.  

I agree that Becton was a major force in second level blocking, but I’m not ready to give a final grade to Steen on that particular aspect of O-Line play.  He will begin OTAs as the RG taking all the first team reps.  Lane is very likely to take him under his wing, building chemistry.  Jurgens will be one season more experienced at Center and the frequency of assignment breakdowns/miscommunications that happened between Center and Guard last season should be significantly diminished.  Barring injuries, the O-Line should be just as effective this season as last.

That is an optimistic take.

Becton was also very mid in pass block the 2nd half of the year. 

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

I dont see the high risk of busting. At all. Kid did nothing but improve through last year and was very good in the playoffs

That's not really a comment on him per se. I like him a lot. He was one guy I really wanted in the draft (although I thought he'd go later cause I'm just an armchair GM). More a comment on handing young players starting jobs based on upside and potential in general. At a position that important I always want a viable back up plan.  As of right now that's Huff/Uche. Meh...

44 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I suspect Uche may prove to be another tinker toy.

I actually like that signing

21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I actually like that signing

The group of signings that Howie did in the past few days have been a lot like placing bets at a roulette table.  There is very little expectation that more than one or two of the bets will come up as a winner, but by placing the bets in a pattern, the chances of coming up empty are reduced.   Howie followed that pattern last year too.  There were plenty of the signings that came up empty, but the group of wagers collectively produced a significant net positive gain.

This year has the advantage (on the Defensive side) of Fangio and Howie both reaping the benefit of a full year working together and getting to know their respective tendencies.

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I don't think Giants would mind. Suck for Arch 

Schoen and Daboll would. They’d probably do something stupid to try to save their jobs.