1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Quez's speed was great, but his hands...man I didn't trust him to make a big catch when it mattered most and I'd imagine Hurts didn't either. Quez makes that catch in SB57 and it might be a different outcome. 

At the time of the Dotson trade, you're right, the Eagles had nothing at WR3. Campbell couldn't stay healthy so we all knew a move had to be made. I'm sure Washington knew that too and maybe they were more in the drivers seat of that trade instead of Howie. 

I like Dotson, he was special at PSU. I think he can be a player. and his catch in the SB could be argued as the spark that got this team going (although I don't think they needed one). With a full offseason I'm sure he'll work with Hurts and more chemistry will be built. The Eagles WR1-WR3 is as good as it gets in the NFL. Let's just see WR3 get a few more looks.

Agreed on all points.  To get your last sentence to happen, the OC needs to dial up some plays where WR3 is the primary target 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

So now you guys are going to repeat this line?

I did notice it being used a lot now

It is being repeated because of drinking the green kool aid.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Howie's offseason started about 2 months ago.  The plan for the free agents is likely already set and they have determined where they can spend to retain free agents and where they have to let the market dictate the cost and walk away.  And I don't think the post-season play of any of the pending free agents change that plan.  The injury to Dean might have altered the plan with Burks in the last 2 months, but that's the only piece that I see as being different from what he likely was planning since the end of November.  

And... he's going to get a ton of criticism for which ever free agent leaves and goes on to have a great season elsewhere, regardless of the cost of that free agent.  BUT, this is where he earns his pay.  Building is easier than maintaining a top notch roster in the salary cap age.   

 

Going back to 2018... Robinson priced himself out.  They had a bunch of 'young' CBs... Darby, Jones, Douglas and added a slot CB in Maddox to fill the void of Robinson.  They didn't work out the way it was planned, but even Robinson is a question mark had they brought him back.   He tore his ACL and started only 1 game for the Saints that year.  We can't know that that injury happens if he's still here, but we can't know it wouldn't have.  

 

It will be interesting to see what Howie prioritizes this year... and while I may disagree with his plan, I won't criticize it this year.  He's earned my approval this year, even if his decisions aren't the ones I would make.

Arguably the biggest problem for the 2018 season was the lack of success in the 2015 to 2017 drafts.  They really did not get much out of the back end of those drafts on the defensive side of the ball.  

Just now, mattwill said:

It is being repeated because of drinking the green kool aid.

Hey! It works now?!

 

Edit: I completely forgot they removed that

20 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Re 2003 AFCCGs: To be fair to McNabb, Manning, and Detmer; go back and watch some highlights. If that game was played under current rules the Eagles and Colts would have both scored in the 70s from all the PI calls. The NFL immediately changed the rules in the offseason over just how bad the DB muggings were. The mediocrity on Carolina who grabbed everyone probably made 10 million dollars off of that game.

Andy Reid stopped running the ball in the 2003 NFCCG and that cost the team as much as anything else.  

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Agreed on all points.  To get your last sentence to happen, the OC needs to dial up some plays where WR3 is the primary target 

The passing game looked out of sync most of the year. Which is why it’s iffy to promote passing game coordinator.  As with my last question it’s hard for us to know the cause and what fixed it

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I kept saying that and they kept disappointing. I think the team is just cursed. Shame because Herbert is wasted there

Tbh i figured they’d be in a year build year in 2024. They were better and further ahead then i thought. I believed they were going to have offensive issues past year as they got rid of Allen and Williams due to cap mismanagement by the previous regime. I tend to think year 2 with harbaugh and having money to spend (i think bosa is likely gone as cap savings is around 25ish mil to go along with $63 mil hey have already) 

45 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

End what? I wasnt even talking about Hurts until you told me you agreed with all of my hurts takes and asked this question about his missed throw to AJ Brown.  You can simply end this by shutting up rather than pretend I'm the one keeping this going. Stop trolling.

This is pretty easy.  Let's try it again.  Do you agree with this statement below?  Yes or no.

"Despite his several flaws Jalen Hurts is a good QB who has played great when it mattered the most."

39 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It will be very hard for this team to repeat as a Super Bowl Champion next season.  They are undoubtedly still the best team in the NFC just looking at the players under contract.  In retrospect, they have a much more solid core than the 2017-18 team had.  We thought we had the QB of the future in Wentz in 2018. Hurts is who he is and, if anything, has more upside potential than Wentz at this point.  In order for the team to repeat we will need: 

Offensively

1) Barkley to stay healthy

2) Hurts to stay healthy and improve his passing efficiency

3)  Mailata and Lane to stay healthy for most of the season

4) Dickerson and Jurgens to stay healthy most of the season

5) AJ and Smith to stay healthy most of the season

6) Development of a 3rd receiving threat

The good news is that they don't have to add anyone necessarily.  I do think keeping Becton gives them depth in case of injury and makes the interior much better. 

Defensively:

1) Replace production from losses on the d-line - likely both Sweat and Williams

2)Re-sign Baun or replace him with an equally productive player. 

3) Re-sign CJGJ or replace him with an equally productive player.

4) Replace Slay 

5) Carter must stay health

6) Nolan Smith stays healthy

7) Secondary stays healthy

The work is on the defensive side of the ball.  

 

It's hard to get there once... so getting there twice in a row is really hard.  No doubt.  Howie's job is to give them a chance, if they can stay mostly healthy.   They did this year and the results speak for themselves.  Next year... a step back is almost guaranteed, because anything short of a repeat is a step back, by definition.

 

They will have a tougher schedule, so they are likely to have to go on the road at some point in the playoffs next year.  Of course, they were in position to go on the road this past year and it still fell to them to get HFA anyway.  🤷‍♂️

 

I would anticipate about a 12-5 season, be in position at the end and hope that the injuries they get are the nagging kind, not the season ending variety and they can come back for a playoff run.  This team is built for winning on the road though, so it wouldn't be as bad as previous permutations of Eagles' teams.  But, next season is really just about getting through the season relatively healthy and into the playoffs.  

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

I think it's too early to dismiss Huff

The mistake was thinking he could be a 3-4 OLB, it's obvious like Reddick and Sweat that he's a one trick pony.

So use him in that role, designated pass rusher for 20-30 snaps a game. I think in that role you'll get your money's worth.

Then draft/sign a couple athletic tweeners that most teams don't like in today's NFL and train them for the 3-4 OLB/edge rusher role.

Howies big star Fa got deactivated for the SB…utter GM failure

will try to polish that turd in 25 and get anything useful out of him only bc we are stuck with his contract

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Howies big star Fa got deactivated for the SB…utter GM failure

never up never in

19 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Here's a question: Did the Eagles offense look better in the final 2 games more because Jalen Hurts played better or because Kellen Moore called better games? Can only pick one.

Kellen was fine all season. Hurts elevated his game last 2 games. 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He was called upon in the Washington game too. 

No preparation for that one but his line wasn’t bad even with the INT

 

22 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC. I think they were the best team in the AFC this season honestly, but they make a lot of mistakes and underachieved because of it. I think the Eagles would've won the SB regardless, they were just determined, but I think the Ravens would've been the toughest matchup if they got there. I'm picking them to come out of the AFC next season.

Derrick Henry wears Cooper Dejean pajamas.

7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

This is pretty easy.  Let's try it again.  Do you agree with this statement below?  Yes or no.

"Despite his several flaws Jalen Hurts is a good QB who has played great when it mattered the most."

I dont need any coaching on a discussion I never intended to have in the first place. This is really simple. I am not having that discussion. Go troll elsewhere.

20 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Here's a question: Did the Eagles offense look better in the final 2 games more because Jalen Hurts played better or because Kellen Moore called better games? Can only pick one.

I know you said to pick one, but I really do think it's both. The conditions in the Rams game were also a confounding factor. 

39 minutes ago, NOTW said:

How do you guys think the Chiefs respond? Will this break them and they will start to regress? Or will this motivate them and they will come back with a vengeance next year? At some point, Kelce and Reid will retire but probably not this offseason.

Other teams have now seen the Bucs and Eagles dominate with defense especially the pass rush. Expect the AFC playoff teams to try to use that blueprint, and the Chiefs to be aware and address their O line and strategy. (They seemed to think stopping Barkley and letting Mahomes be "magic" was going to make an easy win. They were blindsided.)

The refs also were fair in the SB. There was too much national attention. I hope that continues next year, the Chiefs can't keep getting assists from the refs so blatantly. Will the Bills, Bengals or Ravens make it to the SB next year instead? 

I think their time is coming to a close without a step back... and reload.  Kelce is done.  If he's not retiring, that doesn't change the fact that he's done.  He played the entire SB like he was already retired.   He was a spectator.  

Their OL is good, BUT only if they can figure out the OT positions.  They were bad, the interior is very good.  

And defensively, I think they aren't what they have been and are getting older.  They likely make the playoffs, but I think this is where the Chargers overtake them with Harbaugh.  They will be a WC, and that changes everything come playoff time.  

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I am not having that discussion. 

You don't have to, we already have the answer. 

16 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh an appeal to authority, yeah I guess coaches are infallible and have never made mistakes before. Like Devin White sucking here was just an anomaly, I guess. And Bryce Huff? Should we ask why it took so long for his snap counts to be nuked into oblivion? Remember when we had Morrow and Cunningham as our LBs last year? Collective brain farts or just innocent victims of unfortunate circumstances, only you can decide.

Which does not explain why Pickett is ahead of McKee. I assume you think that’s a brain fart too.

40 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

The context was how good Pickett is relative to McKee. There seem to be quite a few people who still think Pickett is better than McKee even now, which is... amusing.

There are people who still think that McKee is very much a question mark.  He's played about 6 quarters of 'real' NFL football against two of the worst teams in the NFL, at a point in time of the year that both were making vacation reservations.  To me, he's still an unknown, with potential.   Pickett is what he is.  He's on the fast track to a highly paid backup QB across the NFL who will likely bounce around and get decent money to hold a clip board.   And I think teams will be very content with him at that spot.  Is McKee more than that?  I'm not so sure he is.  Then again, I'm not so sure he isn't.  

Just now, just relax said:

Which does not explain why Pickett is ahead of McKee. I assume you think that’s a brain fart too.

Of course I do, which is why I provided examples of other brain farts. They do happen on rare occasion, even on SB winning teams. 

8 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Howies big star Fa got deactivated for the SB…utter GM failure

will try to polish that turd in 25 and get anything useful out of him only bc we are stuck with his contract

Howie sucks guys. 😅

27 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Here's a question: Did the Eagles offense look better in the final 2 games more because Jalen Hurts played better or because Kellen Moore called better games? Can only pick one.

Sorry.  I don't like false dilemmas.  I think that when a OC calls a better game, the QB plays better, because its just easier to do that.

 

So, I think they these go hand in hand.  Hurts played better.  And Moore put him in better positions to make better plays.

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I think their time is coming to a close without a step back... and reload.  Kelce is done.  If he's not retiring, that doesn't change the fact that he's done.  He played the entire SB like he was already retired.   He was a spectator.  

Their OL is good, BUT only if they can figure out the OT positions.  They were bad, the interior is very good.  

And defensively, I think they aren't what they have been and are getting older.  They likely make the playoffs, but I think this is where the Chargers overtake them with Harbaugh.  They will be a WC, and that changes everything come playoff time.  

They've had trouble with tackles before. Bucs dismantled them because they had backups at tackle. They also had a lot of drops in that game