38 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

That's not really a comment on him per se. I like him a lot. He was one guy I really wanted in the draft (although I thought he'd go later cause I'm just an armchair GM). More a comment on handing young players starting jobs based on upside and potential in general. At a position that important I always want a viable back up plan.  As of right now that's Huff/Uche. Meh...

The Eagles have not historically chosen to throw their draftees immediately into the fire.  They have almost always exercised more caution than Fangio exercised this year.  That may have been situational, or it may be that Fangio is less risk averse.  Time will tell.

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25 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The Eagles have not historically chosen to throw their draftees immediately into the fire.  They have almost always exercised more caution than Fangio exercised this year.  That may have been situational, or it may be that Fangio is less risk averse.  Time will tell.

On defense any DT or edge could ease in as a rotational player.  It's really a perfect situation .

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

That is the glass half empty perspective.  Here is a glass half full perspective.  

I agree that Becton was a major force in second level blocking, but I’m not ready to give a final grade to Steen on that particular aspect of O-Line play.  He will begin OTAs as the RG taking all the first team reps.  Lane is very likely to take him under his wing, building chemistry.  Jurgens will be one season more experienced at Center and the frequency of assignment breakdowns/miscommunications that happened between Center and Guard last season should be significantly diminished.  Barring injuries, the O-Line should be just as effective this season as last.

That is an optimistic take.

I think even in a best case scenario that Steen is a noticeable downgrade as a run blocker. You just can’t teach what Becton has. And I don’t think Steen is better in pass blocking either, though I think coaching and unit cohesion can impact this a bit more.

Will we still have a good line (barring injuries)? Almost certainly. Can Steen be a good player? Absolutely. But Becton just has talent that Steen does not.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Schoen and Daboll would. They’d probably do something stupid to try to save their jobs.

We can only hope.  

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

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53 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

On defense any DT or edge could ease in as a rotational player.  It's really a perfect situation .

I agree.  Perfect situation.  That is what Hunt had last year.

6 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think even in a best case scenario that Steen is a noticeable downgrade as a run blocker. You just can’t teach what Becton has. And I don’t think Steen is better in pass blocking either, though I think coaching and unit cohesion can impact this a bit more.

Will we still have a good line (barring injuries)? Almost certainly. Can Steen be a good player? Absolutely. But Becton just has talent that Steen does not.

As you know I was a Becton advocate of almost as high an order as you and @just relax, but I believe you are rushing to judgment on Steen.  Time will tell regarding that.  I believe … and hope … that you are wrong.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

We are family, all our brothers and sisters and me!  An homage to Stargell.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Schoen and Daboll would. They’d probably do something stupid to try to save their jobs.

And ensure their firing by doing so.

35 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think even in a best case scenario that Steen is a noticeable downgrade as a run blocker. You just can’t teach what Becton has. And I don’t think Steen is better in pass blocking either, though I think coaching and unit cohesion can impact this a bit more.

Will we still have a good line (barring injuries)? Almost certainly. Can Steen be a good player? Absolutely. But Becton just has talent that Steen does not.

Or maybe you got it wrong which is why he got 2/20

35 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think even in a best case scenario that Steen is a noticeable downgrade as a run blocker. You just can’t teach what Becton has. And I don’t think Steen is better in pass blocking either, though I think coaching and unit cohesion can impact this a bit more.

Will we still have a good line (barring injuries)? Almost certainly. Can Steen be a good player? Absolutely. But Becton just has talent that Steen does not.

I dont think its necessarily talent that becton has that sets him apart from Steen its just sheer size that separate the two.

Its not like steen is some slow footed plodder nor is he some shrimp.

He has good length size and athletic traits, Becton just has unreal size at guard, hes possibly the biggest nfl player to ever play guard.

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Or maybe you got it wrong which is why he got 2/20

You two need to get a room.

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I dont think its necessarily talent that becton has that sets him apart from Steen its just sheer size that separate the two.

Its not like steen is some slow footed plodder nor is he some shrimp.

He has good length size and athletic traits, Becton just has unreal size at guard, hes possibly the biggest nfl player to ever play guard.

Well said.  Very well said.

Anybody have under the radar free agents that are still out there?

37 minutes ago, mattwill said:

As you know I was a Becton advocate of almost as high an order as you and @just relax, but I believe you are rushing to judgment on Steen.  Time will tell regarding that.  I believe … and hope … that you are wrong.

The dropoff wasnt that noticeable to Steen, honestly.

i am all for drafting an OL if there is a guy we like. Not why the NC State tackle Belton seems to have fallen down boards so much

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You two need to get a room.

Nah im just not going to humor him thinking he never gets it wrong 😁😁

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

The dropoff wasnt that noticeable to Steen, honestly.

i am all for drafting an OL if there is a guy we like. Not why the NC State tackle Belton seems to have fallen down boards so much

Nah im just not going to humor him thinking he never gets it wrong 😁😁

If TE was the only offensive pick in the first 4 rounds I wouldn't be upset.  I wonder if a slight trade down at 32 would be a option. 

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I dont think its necessarily talent that becton has that sets him apart from Steen its just sheer size that separate the two.

Its not like steen is some slow footed plodder nor is he some shrimp.

He has good length size and athletic traits, Becton just has unreal size at guard, hes possibly the biggest nfl player to ever play guard.

And the marginal increase in size doesnt mean much. steen is huge too and less plodding. steen wont have as mich brute strength but he shouldnt be on the ground as much either. Becton was useless on the tush push. I imagine is difficult not to play too high when you are 6-8 at guard

4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Anybody have under the radar free agents that are still out there?

Howie is that you?

1 minute ago, eaglestime34 said:

If TE was the only offensive pick in the first 4 rounds I wouldn't be upset. 

RB should be in there too imho.  
 

i am not as convinced we will go DL heavy this draft

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

RB should be in there too imho.  
 

i am not as convinced we will go DL heavy this draft

Howie is setting it up to take best available.  They can go a number of positions.  CB and safety should be in play as well. I agree a RB will be drafted.  I think there should be good options in the 4th round if they wait. 

10 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Anybody have under the radar free agents that are still out there?

The names still remaining in my phone's notes app:

Azeez Ojulari

Za’Darius Smith

Calais Campbell

Kyzir White

Marcus Williams

Asante Samuel Jr

Justin Simmons

Julian Blackmon

Elijah Moore

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The names still remaining in my phone's notes app:

Azeez Ojulari

Za’Darius Smith

Calais Campbell

Kyzir White

Marcus Williams

Asante Samuel Jr

Justin Simmons

Julian Blackmon

Elijah Moore

Calais Cambell would be a menace on our line

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

And the marginal increase in size doesnt mean much. steen is huge too and less plodding. steen wont have as mich brute strength but he shouldnt be on the ground as much either. Becton was useless on the tush push. I imagine is difficult not to play too high when you are 6-8 at guard

I agree, I liked Becton, when he was able to get out in space and make contact on a single block it was devastating, he just destroyed dudes and as a pass blocker when he got his hands on a guy it was like running into a wall, but his lateral movement was limited and he played too high at times, at 6'8" im sure it was tough for hurts to see over him and as you stated he was on the ground a bit too much for my liking, I wish him the best and ill Always be grateful for his contributions to a superbowl win and I think Steen has the potential to be better, hes quicker and more athletic and plays with better pad level, we probably wont see the highlight  obliteration of a hapless  defender once a game but Steen should be solid.

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