1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I haven’t really looked but I’d assume it would be an edge rusher or safety. Warren (TE) would be great if he fell. 

Why wouldn't the Chargers just take Warren instead?

Sydney Brown was always a developmental project. He was not a polished product coming into the NFL. He's a typical example of a player with upside that needs good coaching and time. His path was always going to be special teamer to starter if the development pans out. Now, with that said, I'm not penciling in Brown as the "starter" just yet. I may be the only one here that thinks McCollum will be a legit starters some day and is currently farther along in the development. I also know that Cine entered the NFL as the best prospect of the 3 has had his path derailed by a devastating injury a couple years ago. 

I like the competition we'll have for the opening even if nobody else is added. But I'm sure we'll add to the competition as well. 

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The Safety from South Carolina would be a great addition, as would Starks from Georgia.  I haven’t learned about any CB so far that has caught my interest.  @just relax may have thoughts about the Michigan CB that he wants to share.

Will Johnson is a terrific CB, I don't think he'll be there when we pick. Very smooth, great hips, excellent size, good tackler. Potential starter on Day One. Would make our secondary ridiculously good.

17 minutes ago, RLC said:

There's a very real chance Sydney Brown is a combination of Ernie Sims & Andrew Sendejo.

I am thinking Terry Hoage and Michael Lewis.

18 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I don’t know you as well as a poster as I know Toast Jenkins but I get the sense that you and he share a common trait … that mistakes matter a lot to you.  To put that into context I find myself remembering a client I once had who said to me multiple times, "Your company really frustrates me.  You do ten things right, and then do something wrong, and you are worse off than when you started!”  I think you and Paula, that client, think a lot alike.  Also like Toast, I get the sense that there is very little grey in your world.  Things are either black or white.

Of course all of the above is little more than hot sir, but it is an opinion I’ve become somewhat comfortable with.

Things game theory and behavioral economics teach you: human behavior is too take responsibility for the wins and blame the misses on external factors.

now i do think the team is poised to threaten for the Title for tge next 2-3 years. But we gotta clean up some dead cap this season and next

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I am thinking Terry Hoage and Michael Lewis.

I think Quintin Mikell --- A STer that eventually develops into a good starter. 

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

Will Johnson is a terrific CB, I don't think he'll be there when we pick. Very smooth, great hips, excellent size, good tackler. Potential starter on Day One. Would make our secondary ridiculously good.

How about the Notre Dame kid? i know he is coming off injury

47 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m looking at the Chargers at 22 and am wondering if Goedert and a pick or two would do the trick. Not sure on their TE situation but he’d be perfect for Herbert and Harbaugh’s offense. 

My trade up guys would be mostly D-line:

M. Williams, S. Stewart, N. Scourton, M. Green, J. Campbell. I'm unsure about Pearce, his off the field question marks certainly do not help his cause. Green would also need to be heavily investigated by Dom. We can't have any bad apples sneak into this locker room. 

The two DT's I would move up for are Harmon & Nolen. In that order. 
 
I doubt DB would be a trade up option. But Emmanwori would be some addition. 

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

I think Quintin Mikell --- A STer that eventually develops into a good starter. 

Truth is, I'm thinking he's going to be a playmaker always going 100 MPH. But he may get injured playing wrecklessly. Hopefully the game slows down for him. Sirianni has stated he's a high IQ player. I wouldn't mind seeing him try out the slot as well, if Coop is going outside at times. 

10 minutes ago, just relax said:

Will Johnson is a terrific CB, I don't think he'll be there when we pick. Very smooth, great hips, excellent size, good tackler. Potential starter on Day One. Would make our secondary ridiculously good.

A player worth trading up into the 20s for if he slides. Hope teams over-think him because he didn't test in the pre-draft process.

25 minutes ago, Miami said:

Think you are going to be pleasantly surprised.  Offense is set, with TS and GC to fill in.  Defense needs a little work but Fangio gets to pick his own guys now.  And we have the experience and confidence of winning a title under our belt.  The rest is just Howie moving dollars around to stay under the cap.  We will be in the mix again and like our chances.

The offensive personnel are set, but they have a new OC. As we saw after the last super bowl, same personnel does not equal the same success. Can they be as good? Of course. But I'm not locking that in as a guarantee because very recent history shows that it isn't.

39 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

The defense will probably take a step back.  We can still win the SB if that happens, especially if the offense takes a step up.  Which certainly is possible.

I agree, the defense doesn't *need* to be the best in the league (although it was really fun to watch), in this league you can win with a high powered offense and an average defense (as long as they can create turnovers).

The offense is a bigger question mark than many believe. With a new OC, we don't know if they can maintain that level of play. They didn't after the last super bowl under Brian Johnson, the offense was completely disjointed (despite whatever stats say they were top 10) and only performed well in maybe 3 or 4 games that year.

Not sure how taking a first round CB would work. Mitchell and DeJean are going to get highly paid in a few years, draft another stud CB and you can almost assuredly cement that one of the three won't be getting a second contract in Philly. The Eagles aren't playing 3 corners 20+ million per season.

Just now, jojodancer said:

Truth is, I'm thinking he's going to be a playmaker always going 100 MPH. But he may get injured playing wrecklessly. Hopefully the game slows down for him. Sirianni has stated he's a high IQ player. I wouldn't mind seeing him try out the slot as well, if Coop is going outside at times. 

That was pretty much the scouting report on Brown entering the NFL. 100 mph is nice for big hits, but also leads to big misses. If through coaching, he can learn to play under control, he will cut down on missed tackles or blown coverages and become more consistent. 

20 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Why wouldn't the Chargers just take Warren instead?

My first thought too.

But from their perspective it might be Goedert + Picks + 32 > Warren.

Unlikely but not crazy.

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Because the mistakes are where you learn and hopefully get better

Understood, but are you saying there was no learning from the Mitchell and DeJean selections?

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Not sure how taking a first round CB would work. Mitchell and DeJean are going to get highly paid in a few years, draft another stud CB and you can almost assuredly cement that one of the three won't be getting a second contract in Philly. The Eagles aren't playing 3 corners 20+ million per season.

Maybe we don't have to sign everyone. Get a good player for 4-5 years, then trade him or get a comp pick and find the next guy.

As long as we keep the main core some turnover might be fine.

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

Why wouldn't the Chargers just take Warren instead?

I guess the obvious answer is that Warren is taken well ahead of their pick, but maybe to your point Harbaugh would be fine with his former player (Loveland) rather than DG.

NVM - just read the full context of your response.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Not sure how taking a first round CB would work. Mitchell and DeJean are going to get highly paid in a few years, draft another stud CB and you can almost assuredly cement that one of the three won't be getting a second contract in Philly. The Eagles aren't playing 3 corners 20+ million per season.

In this scenario...

*Cooper DeJean is NOT a corner, he's just a safety who will blow up your #1. DeJean is safety one.*

Just now, Infam said:

Maybe we don't have to sign everyone. Get a good player for 4-5 years, then trade him or get a comp pick and find the next guy.

As long as we keep the main core some turnover might be fine.

I don't know, I don't think you take a player in the first round with the expectation they won't be getting a second contract. If the Eagles had no other weaknesses I could see it, but in no world do I see it make sense where you take CB in round 1. Too many other needs. And if for whatever reason all the players you like at other positions are all off the board, then you can trade out.

46 minutes ago, RLC said:

In this scenario...

*Cooper DeJean is NOT a corner, he's just a safety who will blow up your #1. DeJean is safety one.*

I think you can pay top-$ to Coop to play STAR, you just need to make some tough choices at S and CB2.

So, I agree.

31 minutes ago, just relax said:

Will Johnson is a terrific CB, I don't think he'll be there when we pick. Very smooth, great hips, excellent size, good tackler. Potential starter on Day One. Would make our secondary ridiculously good.

Yes he is. Durability issues are very much a concern for him.

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

LMAO, because I watched him get torched left and right during his rookie season and then when he actually did get to play last season I saw him get torched for a deep TD at the end of the SB. Furthermore dude couldn't even beat out McCollum for the 3rd S spot and we all saw how terrible he is as well when he had to come in to the Washington game when CJ got tossed.

When he came in to the Washington game, he played 2 snaps on defense.

So you're judging him on his rookie season, where alot of players struggle, and last year where he was still coming back from his knee injury.  

I'm not saying it's a definite he's going to be a starting quality safety and definitely not saying they should pencil him in as starter but dude hasn't had much of a sample size so not sure how you can just dismiss him.

My guess is they will draft a safety and probably pick up a veteran that maybe gets cut.  Howie may trade for one as well like he did with CJGJ.

Then they will compete to see who is the starter opposite Reed.  

8 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

When he came in to the Washington game, he played 2 snaps on defense.

So you're judging him on his rookie season, where alot of players struggle, and last year where he was still coming back from his knee injury.  

I'm not saying it's a definite he's going to be a starting quality safety and definitely not saying they should pencil him in as starter but dude hasn't had much of a sample size so not sure how you can just dismiss him.

My guess is they will draft a safety and probably pick up a veteran that maybe gets cut.  Howie may trade for one as well like he did with CJGJ.

Then they will compete to see who is the starter opposite Reed.  

I guess players are never able to get better according to him. I don't want them to only have Brown for safety.  Hopefully they can't pick up someone else in the draft or trade.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

When he came in to the Washington game, he played 2 snaps on defense.

So you're judging him on his rookie season, where alot of players struggle, and last year where he was still coming back from his knee injury.  

I'm not saying it's a definite he's going to be a starting quality safety and definitely not saying they should pencil him in as starter but dude hasn't had much of a sample size so not sure how you can just dismiss him.

My guess is they will draft a safety and probably pick up a veteran that maybe gets cut.  Howie may trade for one as well like he did with CJGJ.

Then they will compete to see who is the starter opposite Reed.  

When you argue about DBs, you have to understand that some people believe that a DB that allows a TD has no value. There is this weird perception they have that defenses give up no TDs ...  or completions, for that matter. If the subject is defense and a defender does everything right in coverage and a QB and receiver happen to make the play anyway, the defender is "trash."

My point is --- there are people out there with unreal expectations ... especially for safeties.