6 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

This is a pretty good list. I respect someone actually putting some thought into an article rather than rehashing quotes

https://phillysportsnetwork.com/2025/03/16/eagles-free-agency-fit/

 

Blackmon is a guy I brought here a while back.  No one engaged in that conversation.     

41 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Not sure how taking a first round CB would work. Mitchell and DeJean are going to get highly paid in a few years, draft another stud CB and you can almost assuredly cement that one of the three won't be getting a second contract in Philly. The Eagles aren't playing 3 corners 20+ million per season.

That’s three or four years out in that scenario. In the meantime, that’s three top DBs plus Hunt on rookie contracts while the contracts to Carter, Smith, Jurgens, et al. hit. Good spacing.

32 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

When he came in to the Washington game, he played 2 snaps on defense.

So you're judging him on his rookie season, where alot of players struggle, and last year where he was still coming back from his knee injury.  

I'm not saying it's a definite he's going to be a starting quality safety and definitely not saying they should pencil him in as starter but dude hasn't had much of a sample size so not sure how you can just dismiss him.

My guess is they will draft a safety and probably pick up a veteran that maybe gets cut.  Howie may trade for one as well like he did with CJGJ.

Then they will compete to see who is the starter opposite Reed.  

I’ve ****ed about this oftentimes. I call it snapshot judgment, when a player is judged by his quality at a fixed moment and never gets reevaluated. Players improve. I offer Seumalo as Exhibit A. Hurts too. Jason Peters. The list of guys who improve through effort and good coaching is endless.

23 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Blackmon is a guy I brought here a while back.  No one engaged in that conversation.     

No thanks on Blackmon. We have to play Sydney Brown because he was a 3rd round pick and some think he could possibly maybe potentially be good and despite being a SB contender we "have to" play him and find out.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

There's a very real chance Sydney Brown is a combination of Ernie Sims & Andrew Sendejo.

And a 25% chance he is #20.

4 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Jalyx Hunt, Sidney Brown, Steen, and Ringo are all very talented 3rd round picks.  Everyone is making so much of getting the coveted 3rd round comp pick from all the departures.  We literally have four 3rd round picks waiting to play.

No one should be pulling for these veteran additions to get playing time.  They are insurance against plan A, which is our own draft picks.

Yeah that makes no sense not to pull for free agents to play well. I don't expect much if anything from these bargain players. That said the younger players can still beat them out and you hope for solid depth. 

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

That’s three or four years out in that scenario. In the meantime, that’s three top DBs plus Hunt on rookie contracts while the contracts to Carter, Smith, Jurgens, et al. hit. Good spacing.

I think a lot depends on how they feel about Ringo. I’m high on him based on potential, a limited number of snaps, his age, and his tackling ability. But obviously the coaches will have a much better perspective seeing him in practice.

If they think he’s ready to step in, I’d be looking in the mid or late rounds for someone with versatility who could play both nickel and outside to be the primary backup.

If the Eagles have reservations about Ringo, then I think taking a CB high makes a lot more sense.

The contracts are an issue though. Going with Ringo is another young starter we’d have to make a decision on. I wonder if Howie might try to take a chance and re-sign Ringo now on the cheap before he has a season starting? It’s risky, but if the Eagles are confident in his ability it could give us a chance to take everyone together.

Just now, just relax said:

And a 25% chance he is #20.

He has a far better chance of being CJ FN Gaddis.

Just now, just relax said:

And a 25% chance he is #20.

He has a far better chance of being CJ FN Gaddis.

55 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Understood, but are you saying there was no learning from the Mitchell and DeJean selections?

Sure there was its not binary. But less impact relatively.

its like investing. Avoid the dogs and fads. 

5 minutes ago, just relax said:

And a 25% chance he is #20.

Andre Waters, very cool outcome. (Not the CTE part)

3 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

He has a far better chance of being CJ FN Gaddis.

You can say that again.

Never pass on good players in the draft, because you might have an ok/solid player. I'm not passing on a S/CB/EDGE just because Brown/Ringo/Hunt might be good. Worst-case we have too many good starters and we can trade one.

I am fine if they decide to go with ringo

but corner would absolutely be in play rd1

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Andre Waters, very cool outcome.

Good one! 😀

And not bad as second choice.

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

I am fine if they decide to go with ringo

but corner would absolutely be in play rd1

I like Revel quite a bit, and if he works out that’s 5yrs of cost control plus a comp.

7 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

No thanks on Blackmon. We have to play Sydney Brown because he was a 3rd round pick and some think he could possibly maybe potentially be good and despite being a SB contender we "have to" play him and find out.

There's no reason to be facetious. He, as much as anybody, deserves a chance to compete for the job. We shouldn't be ruling anybody out just because we doubt them. If he beats out the competition and wins the job, we should play him. If he underperforms, that competition should continue. I'm not ruling him out, nor am I ruling out McCollum or Cine to win the job. As far as I'm concerned it's wide open and I'm looking forward to the camp battle. 

1 minute ago, brkmsn said:

There's no reason to be facetious. He, as much as anybody, deserves a chance to compete for the job. We shouldn't be ruling anybody out just because we doubt them. If he beats out the competition and wins the job, we should play him. If he underperforms, that competition should continue. I'm not ruling him out, nor am I ruling out McCollum or Cine to win the job. As far as I'm concerned it's wide open and I'm looking forward to the camp battle. 

I agree - even if we take a S early, it doesn’t preclude any of these guys winning the job and serving as a bridge.

18 minutes ago, just relax said:

And a 25% chance he is #20.

That seems a bit inflated.  

2 hours ago, devpool said:

As long as you look at the offseason so far through the lens of "they have no real intention on repeating this year" the lack of moves is a lot easier to take. They'll sign the 1 year $1M contracts at the bottom of the roster, drafting some guys and if they perform well then great! If not they'll gear up for a run next year. 

Not my ideal strategy but I can see why they would do it 

"they have no real intention on repeating this year

That is a pretty absolute statement.  Do you really believe that?

 

2 hours ago, devpool said:

They'll be good, they're likely not going to be as good as this past year. Jalyx Hunt, Trotter Jr, and Sydney Brown need to be able to handle starting roles, huff needs to step up, they need to draft depth for the DL and they need to be good, and Ringo needs to step up (i have the most confidence in this move).

That's a ton of hoping. Still a lot of offseason left but it's easy to stomach the lack of movement with the mindset that they're gearing up for next year

In terms of being as good as the 2024 team, many people rank that Eagles teams as one of the very best of the Salary Cap Era.  Being as good as an all time great team is a tall order, especially in an era where the team would have to fit $27 million into the hard Cap just to keep a DT who may have been good because of who he played next to.

With that said, I personally prefer sustained excellence over mortgaging the future to maximize a short term ring chase, especially given how much of a factor luck and injuries are in any one season.

28 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Sure there was its not binary. But less impact relatively.

its like investing. Avoid the dogs and fads. 

Tell that to someone who bought Nividia early. Downside is constrained by definition. Upside does not have to be.

27 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I am fine if they decide to go with ringo

but corner would absolutely be in play rd1

With BPA every position is in play.

59 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

When you argue about DBs, you have to understand that some people believe that a DB that allows a TD has no value. There is this weird perception they have that defenses give up no TDs ...  or completions, for that matter. If the subject is defense and a defender does everything right in coverage and a QB and receiver happen to make the play anyway, the defender is "trash."

My point is --- there are people out there with unreal expectations ... especially for safeties.

Even though the roles of FS and SS are more blurred than they were 15-20 years ago, I think the most important attributes for a safety are tackling well (taking proper angles) and ball skills (anticipation).

Just as we want the QB on offense to read and process as quickly as possible, the same ability translates to elite safety play, IMO.  A deep safety needs to be able to cover ground, and reading the QB/offense is just as important as foot speed.  You want a player who knows the difference between being "looked off” and when the QB is about to release the ball