6 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 Big Dom

I can't remember if he was suspended but there was an idiot on defense I think that brought his firearm to the airport accidentally

You'd have to go really far back for Lane's suspensions. Super curious if that'll do anything to his first ballot chances

4 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I've been thinking DT in round 1 might be more likely than Edge because of his much Howie loves taking DTs and they lost Milton Williams. But I'm starting to feel Edge is more likely.

If they draft a DT at 32 and he turns out to be a stud, they're just going to be in the same situation they were in with Milton Williams. Carter will get paid his 35m+ per year, and then what are you gonna do, pay two DTs 30m+ per season?

Maybe that's so far down the line the Eagles won't be thinking that way, but the Eagles always plan for years down the line.

I could see them taking a DT that's good at run and pass seeing as how we have one that's really only good at run and his snap counts so low

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I can't remember if he was suspended but there was an idiot on defense I think that brought his firearm to the airport accidentally

You'd have to go really far back for Lane's suspensions. Super curious if that'll do anything to his first ballot chances

I could see them taking a DT that's good at run and pass seeing as how we have one that's really only good at run and his snap counts so low

Yup, I like Alexander whose value might be suppressed a bit due to playing at a lower level and his age - but I think he can come in and contribute. 2nd round trade up?

15 minutes ago, mattwill said:

With BPA every position is in play.

Nah

Rb wr, qb not in play. Rd1

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even though the roles of FS and SS are more blurred than they were 15-20 years ago, I think the most important attributes for a safety are tackling well (taking proper angles) and ball skills (anticipation).

Just as we want the QB on offense to read and process as quickly as possible, the same ability translates to elite safety play, IMO.  A deep safety needs to be able to cover ground, and reading the QB/offense is just as important as foot speed.  You want a player who knows the difference between being "looked off” and when the QB is about to release the ball 

Last year, I felt like McCollum was the backup for Blankenship and Brown was the backup for CJGJ for the most part. McCollum has come in and played well in place of Blankenship a couple times. I thought he played very solid vs the ravens and he also had the 4th down PBU in the 4th quarter. When he came in for CJGJ, he seemed less effective. Brown seemed a bit behind last season, probably due mostly to missing the offseason. I thought he flashed a bit as a rookie. Both guys have great character, but really need experience to develop what you are talking about. I doubt either guy would come in and play like an all-pro from day 1, but that would be incredibly rare. Kyle Hamilton was considered a "generational talent" and entered the NFL with much hype and he had to struggle for a year while he adjusted to playing at the NFL level. 

As fans, most of us don't want to be patient. We want to sign or draft a "star" to fix a hole instantly. That isn't always the path to sustained team success and, TBH, hardly ever works out like it's projected to. Most players in the NFL need to develop over multiple seasons and to do that, they need to play. The way to determine who plays is through competition and that is a key part of Sirianni's culture. 

21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nah

Rb wr, qb not in play. Rd1

If the right guy is available, I’d take a player at any of those positions. Especially RB. Even a backup RB with a healthy Barkley could touch the ball as much as our WRs.

I’m hearing a ton of beat reporters for various teams saying their top needs are on DL.  Picking #32 (if Howie sticks) could mean taking the BPA at an unexpected position 

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

He has a far better chance of being CJ FN Gaddis.

The guy that shut down Megatron in college????? 

39 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nah

Rb wr, qb not in play. Rd1

Tradeback opportunities.

40 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nah

Rb wr, qb not in play. Rd1

I'd be upset if they drafted any of those in the 1st round

24 minutes ago, TEW said:

If the right guy is available, I’d take a player at any of those positions. Especially RB. Even a backup RB with a healthy Barkley could touch the ball as much as our WRs.

So you think Howie is going to use a 1st round draft pick on a RB that might get 6-8 touches a game?

If one of those positions is a BPA - he’d likely be a BPA for a team that needs to fill one of those positions - meaning 90% chance it would be a trade down scenario. 

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

There's no reason to be facetious. He, as much as anybody, deserves a chance to compete for the job. We shouldn't be ruling anybody out just because we doubt them. If he beats out the competition and wins the job, we should play him. If he underperforms, that competition should continue. I'm not ruling him out, nor am I ruling out McCollum or Cine to win the job. As far as I'm concerned it's wide open and I'm looking forward to the camp battle. 

Brown has shown absolutely NOTHING in two years that suggests he should be in competition for a starting job on a SB contender. If anything he has shown the opposite of that. Literally the only thing you and other Brown apologists have is blind faith in a former 3rd round pick.I;ve got news for you and others, not every draft pick pans out. Hell, he couldn't even beat out McCollum for the 3rd S spot and he is another guy who doesn't belong anywhere near a starting spot for a contender. Thankfully the Eagles don't agree with you otherwise they wouldn't have been aggressively pursuing Justin Reid.

31 minutes ago, TEW said:

If the right guy is available, I’d take a player at any of those positions. Especially RB. Even a backup RB with a healthy Barkley could touch the ball as much as our WRs.

Not unless Jeanty somehow was there. But he wont be

27 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Tradeback opportunities.

Starks would be an easy pick

its Loveland i am really torn on. I think he is ok but not a good use of a first rounder

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Brown has shown absolutely NOTHING in two years that suggests he should be in competition for a starting job on a SB contender. If anything he has shown the opposite of that. Literally the only thing you and other Brown apologists have is blind faith in a former 3rd round pick.I;ve got news for you and others, not every draft pick pans out. Hell, he couldn't even beat out McCollum for the 3rd S spot and he is another guy who doesn't belong anywhere near a starting spot for a contender. Thankfully the Eagles don't agree with you otherwise they wouldn't have been aggressively pursuing Justin Reid.

If by "absolutely nothing" you mean flashes of big hits and creating turnovers, then we agree. You have a track record of downplaying a lot of unproven guys, so I'm pretty confident that won't change with you. I'm more patient with players than the average fan and I like the good things I've seen from both Brown and McCollum so far. Right now, there's something wrong with my screen capture tools, so I can't put together any videos to demonstrate my take. But I doubt someone like you would even watch a 2 minute video that disproves a belief you hold dear.

Neither guy is a finished product, but I like things about them and always give the benefit of the doubt to high character, hard workers. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That seems a bit inflated.  

Yes, probably so. But…

27 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

So you think Howie is going to use a 1st round draft pick on a RB that might get 6-8 touches a game?

If one of those positions is a BPA - he’d likely be a BPA for a team that needs to fill one of those positions - meaning 90% chance it would be a trade down scenario. 

Not that I’m advocating for a RB at #32, but I think it’d be more like 12-15 touches per game by design.  Barkley had 378 touches last season, and Gainwell/Shipley had about 125 between the two of them.  The Eagles will likely want to reduce Barkley’s load by about 80 touches 

30 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Brown has shown absolutely NOTHING in two years that suggests he should be in competition for a starting job on a SB contender. If anything he has shown the opposite of that. Literally the only thing you and other Brown apologists have is blind faith in a former 3rd round pick.I;ve got news for you and others, not every draft pick pans out. Hell, he couldn't even beat out McCollum for the 3rd S spot and he is another guy who doesn't belong anywhere near a starting spot for a contender. Thankfully the Eagles don't agree with you otherwise they wouldn't have been aggressively pursuing Justin Reid.

You wound me with your accusations.

11 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

If by "absolutely nothing" you mean flashes of big hits and creating turnovers, then we agree. You have a track record of downplaying a lot of unproven guys, so I'm pretty confident that won't change with you. I'm more patient with players than the average fan and I like the good things I've seen from both Brown and McCollum so far. Right now, there's something wrong with my screen capture tools, so I can't put together any videos to demonstrate my take. But I doubt someone like you would even watch a 2 minute video that disproves a belief you hold dear.

Neither guy is a finished product, but I like things about them and always give the benefit of the doubt to high character, hard workers. 

I don't miss a single snap of a single game including pre-season so you can save your little 2 minute highlight package that won't prove anything anyway. He's been really good on special teams which has nothing to do with playing Safety. Playing reckless and crazy can actually be a plus on special teams. Other than the pick 6 and some hard hits here and there he has done nothing but get burnt in coverage and miss tackles due to being overly aggressive when it comes to playing Safety. If he wasn't a former 3rd round pick you and others wouldn't even consider him as a potential starter on a SB contender based on merit. 

11 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Not that I’m advocating for a RB at #32, but I think it’d be more like 12-15 touches per game by design.  Barkley had 378 touches last season, and Gainwell/Shipley had about 125 between the two of them.  The Eagles will likely want to reduce Barkley’s load by about 80 touches 

Ok so a first round draft pick on a RB that gets 10 touches a game?  Likely less because Dillon/Shipley figure to get some as well. 

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I don't miss a single snap of a single game including pre-season so you can save your little 2 minute highlight package that won't prove anything anyway. He's been really good on special teams which has nothing to do with playing Safety. Playing reckless and crazy can actually be a plus on special teams. Other than the pick 6 and some hard hits here and there he has done nothing but get burnt in coverage and miss tackles due to being overly aggressive when it comes to playing Safety. If he wasn't a former 3rd round pick you and others wouldn't even consider him as a potential starter on a SB contender based on merit. 

Since I missed almost all of the preseason games I must bow to your wisdom.

All the same, I have this weird notion that he could learn and get better. Oh, silly me!

6 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Ok so a first round draft pick on a RB that gets 10 touches a game?  Likely less because Dillon/Shipley figure to get some as well. 

If you can spend a 1st round pick on a WR (typically have less than 10 touches) then you can do it for a RB too.

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Since I missed almost all of the preseason games I must bow to your wisdom.

All the same, I have this weird notion that he could learn and get better. Oh, silly me!

And that is EXACTLY my point. I can point to reason after reason as to why I don't think he will get better and why I think he is a poor fit in Fangio's scheme. Meanwhile the only thing you and others defending him can say is "maybe he will get better."  Which to be fair you and others should be saying "maybe he will get a lot better" since he needs to go from a 4th safety who Vic couldn't trust to put on the field to a quality starter on a SB contender. This is a SB contending team and we can't afford to just throw people into starting positions who haven't shown they are ready without a legit backup plan because they "might get better."

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Since I missed almost all of the preseason games I must bow to your wisdom.

All the same, I have this weird notion that he could learn and get better. Oh, silly me!

And that is EXACTLY my point. I can point to reason after reason as to why I don't think he will get better and why I think he is a poor fit in Fangio's scheme. Meanwhile the only thing you and others defending him can say is "maybe he will get better."  Which to be fair you and others should be saying "maybe he will get a lot better" since he needs to go from a 4th safety who Vic couldn't trust to put on the field to a quality starter on a SB contender. This is a SB contending team and we can't afford to just throw people into starting positions who haven't shown they are ready without a legit backup plan because they "might get better."

43 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Starks would be an easy pick

its Loveland i am really torn on. I think he is ok but not a good use of a first rounder

I was thinking if a RB, WR or QB was a clear BPA we might have a good opportunity to tradeback with a team with those needs. The talent otherwise between say 25-50 might be comparable, so it could be the smart play.

23 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I don't miss a single snap of a single game including pre-season so you can save your little 2 minute highlight package that won't prove anything anyway. He's been really good on special teams which has nothing to do with playing Safety. Playing reckless and crazy can actually be a plus on special teams. Other than the pick 6 and some hard hits here and there he has done nothing but get burnt in coverage and miss tackles due to being overly aggressive when it comes to playing Safety. If he wasn't a former 3rd round pick you and others wouldn't even consider him as a potential starter on a SB contender based on merit. 

I couldn't care less about the draft pick. You pretend to know people, but you don't. I was high on Reed Blankenship after his rookie preseason. I wanted him to make the 53 at the time --- not to start or anything. I just liked what I saw from a rookie that preseason. He was undrafted. Same thing with McCollum. I didn't see him in the preseason as a rookie because he wasn't here. But he was added to the practice squad later and was elevated late in the season. When he had a chance to play, he played well. He followed that up with a strong preseason in 2024 where he deservingly made the team. Brown was a 3rd round pick and was given ST work as a rookie and also was given some playing time to the tune of 335 defensive snaps. That's a good sample to get a feel for a young prospect. Unfortunately the late season injury and following rehab robbed him of an important preseason opportunity and I would agree that 2024 didn't make him look farther along, but at this point you just want to see a guy gaining confidence in his knee. He'll be entering a critical preseason in 2025. 

Personally, I'm not handing anybody the starting nod right now. I want to see the competition. I want to see growth. I don't care if a 3rd round pick wins the job, an undrafted guy wins the job or if a former 1st round pick reclamation project from another team wins the job. I'm not expecting the winner to be a pro bowl candidate. I just want somebody that helps the team win games by doing what he is asked to do. I understand why Brown was a day 2 prospect. I understand why McCollum wasn't drafted. I understand why Cine was on a practice squad in his 3rd year. But I also understand that development takes time and I believe in competition.