1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

He averaged 5.3, 4.3, and 4.1 in his first three seasons. He had a down year at 3.4 in his fourth season which is a clear outlier. So you would be incorrect. Not only that, he was given the ball quite a bit in 3rd or 4th and short situations or at the goal line which will lower one's YPC. Lastly, RB's do more than just run the ball and he is a really good receiver and pass blocker.

You have ZERO clue how many teams did or did not make him contract offers so you fail again. Even if the market for him was thin it couldn't possibly be because he missed all of last season with a serious neck injury.

Talk about a FN weak and pathetic strawman. I said they aren't giving on the job training by making someone a starter who isn't ready and letting him learn by making crucial mistakes left and right during games when they are supposed to be a SB contender. Practice is where guys like that develop and learn which is the only place Sydney FN Brown should be getting reps next season.

I'm still waiting for you to name those RB's. If you want to run your big mouth be prepared to back it up white knight.

 I don't care about the 10 running backs . His contract says he wasn't in big demand. The Packers did give Jacobs a big contract for a reason. The only one running their mouth is you.    It's not strawman. So starters play a 100% of the snaps in a season? I You can have your opinion that's fine. I hope he works out.  I'm done going back and forth with someone who can't handle others opinions.  

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

Yep, and the people in here defending Brown today don't seem to understand the difference. Either that or they think a guy who has been bad during his first two seasons in the NFL and couldn't even get the 3rd safety role will probably get better to the point of being an adequate starter on a SB contender.

Substitute the name Baun for Brown and the position Linebacker for Safety and then ponder your statement.

Just now, eaglestime34 said:

 I don't care about the 10 running backs . His contract says he wasn't in big demand. The Packers did give Jacobs a big contract for a reason. The only one running their mouth is you.    It's not strawman. So starters play a 100% of the snaps in a season? I You can have your opinion that's fine. I hope he works out.  I'm done going back and forth with someone who can't handle others opinions.  

Let me remind you that you are the one who started this without instigation. Now after you run your mouth, throw out a bunch of strawmans and BS, and get absolutely owned, you want to take your ball and go home with your tail between your legs. Pathetic.

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Substitute the name Baun and the position Linebacker and then ponder your statement.

Oh, so because Baun was a major outlier and worked out in a major way out of nowhere, we should just assume that lightning will strike again and again. Just like just because Q and Dejean were awesome rookies for a SB winning team we should assume that will happen often even though all facts and date suggest the opposite. I've seen some bad takes tonight but that easily takes the cake.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Let me remind you that you are the one who started this without instigation. Now after you run your mouth, throw out a bunch of strawmans and BS, and get absolutely owned, you want to take your ball and go home with your tail between your legs. Pathetic.

Definitely not owned.    I don't feel the need going back-and-forth with an internet tough guy who makes s*** up to support his argument. 

51 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Thankfully NFL teams don't think like you. They don't hand out starting jobs like lollipops at the dentist's office so players can learn and develop on the fly while the team is trying to win every game possible to not only get into the playoffs but get the highest seed possible. Certainly not teams who have legit hopes of winning a SB which I would think and hope the defending champs would have.

They did it last season with both Q and Cooper.  How do you rationalize those two decisions in your thinking?

Just now, eaglestime34 said:

Definitely not owned.    I don't feel the need going back-and-forth with an internet tough guy who makes s*** up to support his argument. 

Wait a minute, I thought you were done? That's what you said in the last post.

Also, if you want to keep getting busted up in this debate please explain to me what I made up. I spoke of Dillon's size, his rushing numbers, and his ability as a pass catcher and pass blockers. Everything I said was factual other than pass blocking which I can easily provide articles that made mention of this when the Eagles signed him.

You continue to try to back track your way out of an argument your dumba$$ picked with a bunch of strawmans and excuses. Now you have gotten to the point of resorting to projecting your own BS lies onto me. 

Let me guess, you will respond to this by saying for a third time "I'm done with you" and avoiding any type of debate which revolves around facts, reason, and logic. If you don't want to deal with getting mauled don't poke a sleeping bear dummy.

Just for fun, what were last year’s roster questions:

1. Mitchell and Dejean were well-regarded draft picks, but could two rookies turn arguably 2023’s worst secondary in the NFL into a good one?

2. Could Slay avoid going off the rails for one more year or even tighten it up from a 2023 that really saw him struggle?

3. Nolan Smith was only one year in, but everyone (coaches included), was kind of down on him.  You don’t give Bryce Huff $51m if you expect much from Nolan Smith.  Could Bryce Huff be a disruptive full time edge?

4. LB.  Dean’s stock wasn’t soaring and he was being handed a job.  Devin White was the big name here.  No one knew who Baun was.

5. RG.  We were basically where we are now turning it over to Steen.

6. Milton Williams was basically what Ojomo is right now (although far more explosion and potential).  Jordan Davis was still an unknown.  

 

Now:

1. Hindsight shows that Slay worked out in 2024, but is 2025 Ringo that much more of a gamble than 2024 Slay?

2.  Brown / Cine at safety are a new gamble.  

3.  Steen put in a lot of good snaps last year, so this is probably even less of a concern.

4. DT.  Jordan Davis has persistent questions about his ability to be an every-down player, but he sure did look good in the playoffs.  As did Ojomo.

5. DE.  Can Jalyx Hunt replace Sweat?  

 

These are more mild, answerable questions than last offseason, to be honest.  Now, Baun becoming an all-pro D-MVP candidate out of nowhere, Mitchell being Revis-island as a rookie, Dejean being an absurd playmaker as a rookie, Nolan Smith having the light go on so explosively, Slay somehow being better in 2024 than 2023…….that was just absurdly favorable.

But we don’t need that kind of absurd new help this time around.  Just for a few young players with extreme explosive talent who are on their rookie contracts to start to play up to it.   

23 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

OMG are you on drugs or just that stupid. They didn't even put Smith on the field consistently until Graham got hurt and they had given up on Huff. They didn't blindly hand him a starting job on week one.

Baun, Q, Nakobe, and Becton were balling out from the start of camp.

Carter and Jurgens were starters all of the prior season and had already proven themselves capable of that.

Ojomo and Hunt were rotational pieces who barely played and earned more playing time as the season went on. They weren't handed a starting job and told to figure out how to get better in the mean time.

Weak sauce

 

 

Carter had 1 start in 2023. Jurgens had experience at RG in the NFL, but not C. Becton had no experience at OG in the NFL. Baun had almost no snaps at off-ball LB in NO. 

Once again, nobody is suggesting someone is blindly handed a job. The team already knows something about Brown, McCollum, and Cine (less about Cine, but they've had him for a couple months). They wouldn't have traded CJGJ away if there wasn't some confidence in last season's depth. "But Howie aggressively pursued Reid!!!" Howie does his due diligence and works every angle. We don't know which side even initiated the talks. If Reid's camp reached out to Howie, Howie may have been looking for a bargain. But do we really know more than what 1 tweet said? Reid turned down several offers to sign with a cap-strained, losing team with a new coaching staff. Good for him! Howie must have been "all in like Jerruh!"

Chase 4/161, Higgins 4/115

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

They did it last season with both Q and Cooper.  How do you rationalize those two decisions in your thinking?

OMG

They had to compete with veterans with starting experience and win the jobs, which they did.

If you remember correctly Q started off in the slot, having beaten out Maddox. Rodgers was on the outside after competing with Ringo. Then late in camp they moved Q to the outside, Rodgers was the 3rd outside corner, and Maddox was back in the slot. Dejean had to use practice time to develop and show he was ready to play over Maddox which he did after the bye week.

Notice the trend there. The Eagles already had guys with starting experience in place at those positions and both Q and Dejean had to prove they were capable by beating them out. Right now there isn't a single safety on the roster outside of Reed with legit starting experience.

You are bringing the ultimate apples to oranges comparison to the table here dude, come on.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

No.  I’m pretty sure you’re trolling but if you’re not …it’s simple math:

10 touches a game for a WR who averages 15 Yards per reception = 150 yards per game.

10 touches per game for a RB who averages 5 yards per carry = 50 yards per game.

 

That’s what it’s 100% fine to draft a WR in the 1st round who will get 10 touches per game because those 10 touches should equate to around 150 yards per game.

And that’s why you would never draft a RB in the 1st round for only 10 touches a game because those 10 touches would likely equate to around 50 yards. 
 

Capish? 

I don't think many WRs average 10/150 though.  So your comparison is very far off.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Wait a minute, I thought you were done? That's what you said in the last post.

Also, if you want to keep getting busted up in this debate please explain to me what I made up. I spoke of Dillon's size, his rushing numbers, and his ability as a pass catcher and pass blockers. Everything I said was factual other than pass blocking which I can easily provide articles that made mention of this when the Eagles signed him.

You continue to try to back track your way out of an argument your dumba$$ picked with a bunch of strawmans and excuses. Now you have gotten to the point of resorting to projecting your own BS lies onto me. 

Let me guess, you will respond to this by saying for a third time "I'm done with you" and avoiding any type of debate which revolves around facts, reason, and logic. If you don't want to deal with getting mauled don't poke a sleeping bear dummy.

What did I say that was strawman? What bs lies exactly?  

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

So let me get this straight. You also think Brown sucks but still felt the need to throw shade at me and start up an argument, in the middle of he and I arguing. Now as a result you feel the need to call me out for arguing with him. Make up your mind.

As for the last comment. Once in a while I will get involved but I typically mind my own business and I certainly don't feel the need to jump in and white knight for another grown a$$ man.

This is the second time you have made this white knight reference.  Can you help me understand that reference.  Most conversations here on the Blog are group conversations with any and all participants welcome to add their personal perspective to the topic at hand.  When you are at a cocktail party or a bar and half a dozen of your buddies are talking away in a group how does that work?  Do you have white knighting in that scenario?

4 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Carter had 1 start in 2023. Jurgens had experience at RG in the NFL, but not C. Becton had no experience at OG in the NFL. Baun had almost no snaps at off-ball LB in NO. 

Once again, nobody is suggesting someone is blindly handed a job. The team already knows something about Brown, McCollum, and Cine (less about Cine, but they've had him for a couple months). They wouldn't have traded CJGJ away if there wasn't some confidence in last season's depth. "But Howie aggressively pursued Reid!!!" Howie does his due diligence and works every angle. We don't know which side even initiated the talks. If Reid's camp reached out to Howie, Howie may have been looking for a bargain. But do we really know more than what 1 tweet said? Reid turned down several offers to sign with a cap-strained, losing team with a new coaching staff. Good for him! Howie must have been "all in like Jerruh!"

STOP. Carter was a starter in 2023 and you know he was. They had a four man rotation of DT's and the only one with more snaps than Carter at 563 was Cox at 684. You stink of lies and desperation by selling Carter as not being a "starter" in 2023 on a technicality and not implying that he needed "on the job training" in starting NFL game action to prove himself. He had LONG since proven himself as a starting DT coming into the 2024 season.

Again, weak. Jurgens started an entire NFL season and did well at a more difficult position due to his lack of size and by not playing at his natural position of center. He was well proven coming into 2024.

Becton had to beat out Steen in camp and he did. Baun had to beat out White in camp and he did. Neither was handed a starting position and told to sink or swim, they earned it.

Lastly, you just had to get one more stupid a$$ ridiculous comment in by playing off Howie;s interest in Justin Reid as no big deal. First of all check your facts and don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Justin Reid himself said the Eagles were one the last three teams in the mix for him, so it wasn't just one tweet. Second, this is a guy who got 22 million guaranteed, in other words he was not cheap. They are quite obviously not satisfied with what they currently have at Safety no matter how bad you want to walk your dog to thoughts of bums like Brown and McCollum.

12 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

OMG

They had to compete with veterans with starting experience and win the jobs, which they did.

If you remember correctly Q started off in the slot, having beaten out Maddox. Rodgers was on the outside after competing with Ringo. Then late in camp they moved Q to the outside, Rodgers was the 3rd outside corner, and Maddox was back in the slot. Dejean had to use practice time to develop and show he was ready to play over Maddox which he did after the bye week.

Notice the trend there. The Eagles already had guys with starting experience in place at those positions and both Q and Dejean had to prove they were capable by beating them out. Right now there isn't a single safety on the roster outside of Reed with legit starting experience.

You are bringing the ultimate apples to oranges comparison to the table here dude, come on.

Oh no! No starting experience! --- we should have them compete with Dillon then since he was such a good starter. Afterall, Becton's OT experience was still experience and Jurgen's OG experience was experience. Carter only had 1 start and he was penciled in as starter after Cox retired. 

I'm glad the team is constantly evaluating every player every practice, so they know what they have to work with.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

This is the second time you have made this white knight reference.  Can you help me understand that reference.  Most conversations here on the Blog are group conversations with any and all participants welcome to add their personal perspective to the topic at hand.  When you are at a cocktail party or a bar and half a dozen of your buddies are talking away in a group how does that work?  Do you have white knighting in that scenario?

I honestly can't figure out if you are 15 or 70.

7 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Oh no! No starting experience! --- we should have them compete with Dillon than since he was such a good starter. Afterall, Becton's OT experience was still experience and Jurgen's OG experience was experience. Carter only had 1 start and he was penciled in as starter after Cox retired. 

I'm glad the team is constantly evaluating every player every practice, so they know what they have to work with.

LMAO, so you are going to double down and compare Carter ( a guy who played the 2nd most snaps of any Eagles DT in 2023 as a rookie and the 9th overall pick in the draft) coming into 2024, to Sydney Brown (a 3rd round pick who hasn't even become a 3rd safety after two seasons) heading into the 2025 season. I refuse to believe that you are this stupid. 

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

This is the second time you have made this white knight reference.  Can you help me understand that reference.  Most conversations here on the Blog are group conversations with any and all participants welcome to add their personal perspective to the topic at hand.  When you are at a cocktail party or a bar and half a dozen of your buddies are talking away in a group how does that work?  Do you have white knighting in that scenario?

I prefer the red queen reference, evolve or lose (die really, but this is just football).

12 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

What did I say that was strawman? What bs lies exactly?  

I thought you were done? Answer my question that I asked first, then we can continue.

Name 10 RB's in the league with AJ Dillon's combination of size, production, and skill set.

27 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

Definitely not owned.    I don't feel the need going back-and-forth with an internet tough guy who makes s*** up to support his argument. 

There is only one solution for this situation T-1000 needs to change his screen name to 4x4

6 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I honestly can't figure out if you are 15 or 70.

77

Just now, T-1000 said:

I thought you were done? Answer my question that I asked first, then we can continue.

Name 10 RB's in the league with AJ Dillon's combination of size, production, and skill set.

I guess you can't.  Ok 

Just now, eaglestime34 said:

I guess you can't.  Ok 

A. I asked you first and you refused multiple times and said you were done. Answer my question and then I will gladly answer you.

B. You have said two or three times you were done and yet you keep posting. So which one is it?

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

77

Congrats on making it to 77, seriously. I might disagree with 90% of what you say about football but I'm sure you are a decent person and that is awesome. I hope I get there some day.