28 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Agreed 100% on everything except this year being the same.  I don't think there is as much explosive talent in this draft.  In the later rounds, where everyone goes off script, Howie will probably have the freedom to prioritize great athletes and will find some.

In rounds 1-2, when there are tangible expectations and downside isn't well tolerated....I'm not seeing many players in that range, with high RAS athleticism who actually did enough in college to make you feel safe using that kind of pick on them.

I think rounds 1 and 2 will present us with guys who were excellent, sound football players in good conferences and are merely adequate or above average type athletes.  I think this applies to most of the players going top 15, let alone the ones we'll have access to.

 

 

The eagles just brought in some OT prospects for top 30 visits:

Marcus Mbow — NA, but known as an athlete

Josh Conerly Jr. — 8.69

Anthony Belton — 8.08

Jalen Travis — 9.91

I think the emphasis on athleticism is good and well. Obviously opportunity is going to play a role, but the strategy is clear.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

In trying to get creative for us at edge, I wondered if Jihaad Campbell could have some parallels to Micah Parsons.  Similar size, athleticism, and hype as off-ball LB’s in college.

One of the few smart decisions Dallas has made was drafting Parsons and converting him to an edge.  

Watching old PSU Parsons highlights, I see a great NCAA off-ball LB waiting to be unleashed as an edge.  He always wanted to be going downhill.  Watching Campbell, I see a great NCAA off-ball LB who will be most at home as a great off-ball LB in the pros.

Just like Baun if we are lucky.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Saquon and Shipley will be on the roster for sure so, as far as the draft goes, if there’s an upgrade over Dillon where the Eagles are picking they would consider taking RB — but I don’t see the Eagles drafting RB before Day 3.

Who are the RBs in the Draft who are upgrades over Dillon and or Shipley?

Here’s a bit longer list

 

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Your question to me is a mirror back to you.  What relevance to you does a random person on twitter have?  I emphasize the "to you.”

if the answer to that question is, "No relevance at all” then why take the time to share that irrelevance here?

 

If there is a point of information provided, what does it matter who provided it?  The tweet points out that Roseman drafts players with a higher RAS score at a lower rate almost any other GM in the league.  

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Who are the RBs in the Draft who are upgrades over Dillon and or Shipley?

 

The top 5 guys are all clear, decisive upgrades over Shipley.

The guy I really like is the kid out of Virginia Tech, Bhayshul Tuten. Tough running style and elite speed. Decent but not great hands. Needs coaching on ball security and patience to trust the blocking schemes, but I think he could be a good starter, maybe even more, with a year getting coached up.

I like Giddens a lot too. Very well rounded skill set.

 

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

 

How many $12 beers did that decision take?

😪 I hope something positive is done with this building and the great traditions that it holds can go on for as long as the building stands.

 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

In trying to get creative for us at edge, I wondered if Jihaad Campbell could have some parallels to Micah Parsons.  Similar size, athleticism, and hype as off-ball LB’s in college.

One of the few smart decisions Dallas has made was drafting Parsons and converting him to an edge.  

Watching old PSU Parsons highlights, I see a great NCAA off-ball LB waiting to be unleashed as an edge.  He always wanted to be going downhill.  Watching Campbell, I see a great NCAA off-ball LB who will be most at home as a great off-ball LB in the pros.

Yeah some people already consider Campbell and edge. He did those drills at the combine too.

Which makes me wonder if he won't go even earlier than he is already projected. 

40 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

If there is a point of information provided, what does it matter who provided it?  The tweet points out that Roseman drafts players with a higher RAS score at a lower rate almost any other GM in the league.  

Is it information?  Without knowing the source all it is is noise.

39 minutes ago, TEW said:

The top 5 guys are all clear, decisive upgrades over Shipley.

The guy I really like is the kid out of Virginia Tech, Bhayshul Tuten. Tough running style and elite speed. Decent but not great hands. Needs coaching on ball security and patience to trust the blocking schemes, but I think he could be a good starter, maybe even more, with a year getting coached up.

I like Giddens a lot too. Very well rounded skill set.

I agree about the top 5.  How many of those 5 are going to make it to Day 3?

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Who are the RBs in the Draft who are upgrades over Dillon and or Shipley?

 

Henderson

30 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree about the top 5.  How many of those 5 are going to make it to Day 3?

The RB from AZ, Jacory something-something, runs really hard - not a big back per se, but a real pain like Pacheco. I figure 5th round?

39 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree about the top 5.  How many of those 5 are going to make it to Day 3?

None.

I think there will be several, maybe even a lot, of day 3 guys who end up being better than Shipley, but my conviction isn’t as strong on any individual player. But the group is really strong and day 3 should yield multiple starting caliber RBs.

3 hours ago, eagle45 said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/2022-nfl-draft-ras-scores-160719087.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKQTSn9-bzLvWaOouMetKBNWQAIab9kyq-qSqTUPhfxWIAtoIlKMg-GaNwyL2jwL_jYMM4Ou8kxKRRVwbr5WOo9EnMwPPjmfplpB4xj1xQUBYLWu6-KfMBUtkIWpEsbsmnq8WeXOdXZJtVCsXxV8Ecc__fsSJYKipQljHnn3IlDs

 

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2023/04/29/philadelphia-eagles-2023-nfl-draft-relative-athletic-score-jalen-carter-nolan-smith-sydney-brown/80409721007/

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2024-nfl-draft-ras-scores-results/

 

Howie is unquestionably RAS happy.  He may not call it RAS.  But the Eagles had an inflection point in their drafting where they started to focus on objectively superior athletes.

You can also see how Howie talks about draft strategy e.g. have heard a lot of "unique phyical traits in their bodies" lately.

2 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

So you’re saying Dominic Morris isn’t on the board?

 

Jeepers, a 5 ft 8inc corner who runs a 4.93 and doesnt have short area explosiveness. Man's going to find it tough even getting a crack at making a roster.

33 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Henderson

Do you invest a Day 2 pick on him?

26 minutes ago, TEW said:

None.

I think there will be several, maybe even a lot, of day 3 guys who end up being better than Shipley, but my conviction isn’t as strong on any individual player. But the group is really strong and day 3 should yield multiple starting caliber RBs.

Understood, and in principle I agree.

34 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

The RB from AZ, Jacory something-something, runs really hard - not a big back per se, but a real pain like Pacheco. I figure 5th round?

Jacory Crowley-Merritt

GREAT loss today for the Flyers against a horrible Chicago team. They remain firmly in the 5th spot with 10 games to go and with Buffalo's win today the 4th spot is a real possibility. The Flyers are now 1-8-1 over their last 10 games, that's how to close out a horrible season the right way.

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Jacory Crowley-Merritt

That’s him, well almost… Croskey - did well at the Shrine.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

That’s him, well almost… Croskey - did well at the Shrine.

Siri didn’t like Croskey

Good day so far for the Flyers.  They lost and the Sabres won.  Now all we need is for the Predators beat the Blues.

16 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Siri didn’t like Croskey

Siri probably has some OK day 3 opinions.