4 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

I could see New Orleans trying to trade up to #32 to get in front of the crappy teams at the top of Round 2 for a QB.  #9 overall would be too high to draft Jaxson Dart, but if he's on the board at #32 and the Saints wanted to leapfrog CLE or NYG (whichever didn't take one in Round 1) and get a 5th year option on a QB, would you trade?

Saints get #32 and #165

Eagles get #40 and #93

Have we learned nothing from Belichek.  Needs to be a 2026 sixth for us for that to work. Bill almost always asked for an extra pick. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Reminder, Eagles cut him to sign Shaq Leonard.

Last year, he started 5 games, had 80 tackles, 1 INT, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1.5 sacks, 1 TFL and 5 QB hits. 

 

LB factory

3 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yknow what’s weird. When we won seven years ago I probably watched the game in its entirety about a dozen times and the final nine minutes another twenty times in the first six weeks after the game ended. This time I’ve watched it only once in full, and watched parts (second/third quarter stuff) only about three times. It feels wrong.

Through my NFL+, I have watched the condensed game and the All22.  I also watched part of the Spanish language, which is there too because what little I understand is a hoot. 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Reminder, Eagles cut him to sign Shaq Leonard.

Last year, he started 5 games, had 80 tackles, 1 INT, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1.5 sacks, 1 TFL and 5 QB hits. 

 

Please don’t remind me.  I was irrationally on the Ellis train.

2 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

I’m trying to think of the last 1st round pick we picked up the option for…Barnett?  There’s only a few weeks left for the decision on Jordan Davis right?  Going even back to Joe Banner days, they’ve always been ones to resign talent as early as possible.

They also picked up the option for Devonta Smith and then added years to his contract. 

Howie will most certainly do the same with Carter and Smith.

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

Meh I still think they draft someone for that spot but this is a fallback I suppose

It isn’t a good year for Tackles, and lots of teams need them.  So the chances are slim  of getting one that can immediately be active on game day as the backup OT.

Also, given Lane’s recently signed extension, signing a bridge player like this signing is, makes a ton of sense.

And most importantly Howie doesn’t like to go into the Draft with any holes in the roster.  That way he can very comfortably pursue the BPA with his pick(s).

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

LIX lacks the drama of LII.  What you describe is not a surprise.

I dunno.  On that dagger to Devonta I still jump up and shout "bury them”.   Not sure that is anymore exciting than BG’s strip sack of Brady.  

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Chris Simms disagrees

 

Simms is a foolish fool.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I dunno.  On that dagger to Devonta I still jump up and shout "bury them”.   Not sure that is anymore exciting than BG’s strip sack of Brady.  

Exciting, yes.  Dramatic, not so much. XII had tons of suspense.  XIX for anyone other than Eagles fans or Chiefs haters had no suspense.

 

 

Just an absolutely insane video.  Saying Chiefs were the best team.  If the Super Bowl was played 7 times the Chiefs would have won 5 of the games and that the Bills were better than the Eagles as well. 

 

 

15 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Please don’t remind me.  I was irrationally on the Ellis train.

He was pretty bad for us on defense that year. Special teams play was fine, but we signed Shaq because Elliss wasn't cutting it at LB when he was on the field. It was disappointing because he showed promise the year before. But with all that happened on defense in 2023, maybe that messed up his development somewhat. By the time we waived him, BVS had already surpassed him at LB.

3 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

TV era mostly. Guys pre-1970’s were not exposed enough to get their jersey number engrained in the common fan brain. Like I’ve only ever seen the 1 Ice Bowl highlight of Starr when I wasn’t outright looking for Starr highlights. But I randomly run into Staubach and Bradshaw and Fouts and even some Unitas highlights fairly frequently

I was watching the NFL on Sundays in the ‘60s.  And as a former Oilers fan, I am not sure I embrace the post NFL Ticket era where you could watch the team of your youth regardless of locale.  I became an Eagles fan because they were "local” when I moved to the South Central. And you can’t be a bigger football fan than being a Birds fan.  I immediately found kindred spirits.  But I wonder what ai would have missed in the six years before that a-hole family the Adams stole the Oilers away.   Point is that I think the geographical availability limitations back then somewhat influenced some fandom.  Now a bunch of posters aren’t local.  I wonder if @mattwill, who has maintained his Bird fandom for decades out of PA and all you other out of state guys would agree.  But looking back, I have a positive view of how the limitation impacted me.  

4 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yknow what’s weird. When we won seven years ago I probably watched the game in its entirety about a dozen times and the final nine minutes another twenty times in the first six weeks after the game ended. This time I’ve watched it only once in full, and watched parts (second/third quarter stuff) only about three times. It feels wrong.

LII was magical, LIX was expected.

2017 season was a roller coaster ride that culminated with a fairy tale ending.

Last year the eagles were the best team in the league since week 5.

4 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I think a guy with a lower center of gravity and long-arms is a nice combination - I guess the trade off is good/max weight but 247lbs isn't bad.

I'm personally fine with it, maybe Vic is too. I just wonder if he may want a different body style at edge. All of our current guys are basically undersized. He mentioned in press conferences Smith is undersized. 

8 minutes ago, Quiet Boy said:

LII was magical, LIX was expected.

2017 season was a roller coaster ride that culminated with a fairy tale ending.

Last year the eagles were the best team in the league since week 5.

I've watched it several times and so many different YouTubes.  I love the domination.  Don't get tired of it.

3 hours ago, just relax said:

I wonder about that. Take Carter, for example. Does anyone seriously think the Eagles will exercise the fifth year option with him? I sure don’t.

I don’t think the only value is in exercising it as much as having it in the back pocket. And Carter is a great example.  Let’s say that when Howie offers an extension, Carter’s agent is unreasonable.  Eagles can use the option as a negotiating lever.  Carter’s agent probably realizes the Eagles can hold him for seven years, although year seven’s price tag for a DT would be too high, even for Carter.   And let’s say some team wants the Eagles pick for a QB like the Ravens did with Lamar.  That’s a full seven year stick potentially.   That’s where the value lies, whether a team eventually uses it or not.  That’s why the 1st round value really isn’t equated for in Brandt’s old formula.  

48 minutes ago, just relax said:

Simms is a foolish fool.

He's going to die on this hill.

3 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

I’m trying to think of the last 1st round pick we picked up the option for…Barnett?  There’s only a few weeks left for the decision on Jordan Davis right?  Going even back to Joe Banner days, they’ve always been ones to resign talent as early as possible.

Devonta Smith

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Are you suggesting that AI art would be unrealistic?  

AI is a useful tool but at this point it is an aggregator of data that tends to guess when filling in gaps, although the programmers would say it reasons on what the gap data is likely to be.  The problem with that is it sees Green Bay, Lambeau Field and the NFL and populates the crowd with folks in Packers gear because, while having no data on the draft in Green Bay, looked at pictures of fans in Green Bay and, given that Green Bay is historically sold out on season tickets, the data available to the AI suggested mostly Packers fans.   I found the significant use of baseball caps interesting and the lack of winter clothing interesting so there are other aspect built into the reasoning.

Don’t get me wrong, my industry (insurance) exists on data.  Because of the significant competition in the industry, we long have enjoyed an antitrust exemption on sharing loss data.  We were using AI back when it was Watson and probably have more data scientists employed than any other industry.   I was assisting building predictive models before Jeff and Howie heard the term (and to their credit they use predictive analytics as well as any team although Washington may be challenging soon based on last season).  But we have to understand the data input a bit to understand the output.   And, unlike the consumer level AI, there need to be barriers and filters that just aren’t there yet and probably won’t be soon. Humans are hardly above the garbage in/garbage out.that exists in computer analysis but at this point, computers analyzing pure data in the consumer AI tools is unlikely as you damn physicists remaining consistent on subatomic "particles”. ( The "particles” is indicated as such because more and more these "particles” are seeming more like flowing energy, which just sends me down a rabbit hole when contemplating the Life, the Universe and Everything and is the real answer 42.)

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Reminder, Eagles cut him to sign Shaq Leonard.

Last year, he started 5 games, had 80 tackles, 1 INT, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1.5 sacks, 1 TFL and 5 QB hits. 

 

I thought we had a different Elliss, a NT. There was a LB that I wished we signed who seemed like a playmaker but we had the worse brother. And then there was an Edge Elliss in the draft last year from Utah who I would have liked too.

I dont remember having either of the good ones. 

ok. I see Kaden Ellis is the good one.

We had Christian, and Noah Elliss.

Jonah Ellis was the promising rookie who might be good too.

Out of 4 Ellis brothers we got the 2 bad ones, and there are 2 good ones. 

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Have to assume they will as a formality.

but if carter stays healthy and plays like this again he is gonna get a monster contract

Yeah, but when? My point is that he’ll never get to the fight year option.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

I don’t think the only value is in exercising it as much as having it in the back pocket. And Carter is a great example.  Let’s say that when Howie offers an extension, Carter’s agent is unreasonable.  Eagles can use the option as a negotiating lever.  Carter’s agent probably realizes the Eagles can hold him for seven years, although year seven’s price tag for a DT would be too high, even for Carter.   And let’s say some team wants the Eagles pick for a QB like the Ravens did with Lamar.  That’s a full seven year stick potentially.   That’s where the value lies, whether a team eventually uses it or not.  That’s why the 1st round value really isn’t equated for in Brandt’s old formula.  

Conversely, it could lead to a painful standoff. For a player like Carter. It’s simply not an issue. Nine times in ten this decision is simple.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

I don’t think the only value is in exercising it as much as having it in the back pocket. And Carter is a great example.  Let’s say that when Howie offers an extension, Carter’s agent is unreasonable.  Eagles can use the option as a negotiating lever.  Carter’s agent probably realizes the Eagles can hold him for seven years, although year seven’s price tag for a DT would be too high, even for Carter.   And let’s say some team wants the Eagles pick for a QB like the Ravens did with Lamar.  That’s a full seven year stick potentially.   That’s where the value lies, whether a team eventually uses it or not.  That’s why the 1st round value really isn’t equated for in Brandt’s old formula.  

Conversely, it could lead to a painful standoff. For a player like Carter. It’s simply not an issue. Nine times in ten this decision is simple.