26 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

How does 0-4 with 3 Ks sound?  

 

44 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

No, i mean 2010/11…probably more 11.  2010 proved that their aging core batting lineup didn’t have it, and they ran it again thinking that making some additions to pitching would fix the broken and inconsistent aging lineup.  

They’re going to be good enough to get excited and think ‘this is our year’ at times.  The bottom hasn’t completely fallen out yet.

Also, in the back of all of our heads we all know the Dodgers are a repeat of the 2009 Yankees right now.  Except with inflation instead of spending a 1/4 billion buying a WS they’re at a billion.  So hard for me to get excited when that ish is allowed to happen with the money they’re deferring.

 Wild to think that 15 years ago the Yankees going on that ‘spree’ for 3 players is nothing compared to what LA is doing.

I mean during the 2011 season they traded for Hunter pence. That was a huge acquisition at the time. Saying they didn’t try to help fix an inconsistent lineup is not true. They went into the season seeing if they needed to make an addition (believed in Mayberry and Dom brown might be called up who was best prospect in MLB at the tome) and they added arguably the biggest bat at the deadline. They weren’t gonna just completely overturn the roster when they had Howard, Utley, Jimmy Rollins, Ruiz and victorino in their primes. The lineup had issues more cause Howard had a foot/ankle issue all year it’s why it finally snapped after getting shots all year. And utley never stayed fully healthy even in the previous years. Polanco even at 35 was better hitter than Pedro Feliz. Was top 10 in WAR for 3rd basemen that year. Their worse hitter based off WAR was Ibanez who had 20 HRs and 84 RBIs. The one spot they could upgrade was in the corner OF spot and they did when they acquired pence then platoon Ibanez with brown/mayberry. I’d add i believe lee led the league in WAR and halladay was 3rd 

also they definitely weren’t gonna give Jayson werth the contract he got in the end of 2010 that was a ridiculously bad contract for the nationals.

Howard, Ruiz, victorino, Rollins and utley were all in their primes. They were 29-32 during that season. They weren’t like 34 or 35. Their issue was the fact guys got hurt for portions of the season. Howard was dealing with an injury where he probably should’ve been out 1-2 months to let it heal.

The Phillies issue last year wasn’t casty, Bryce and schwarber (most part— actually best avg and OBP season). It was Bohm who played like Stott after the tigers series in June, Stott was bad, marsh still couldn’t hit lhp and then RHP for 2.5 months. Their young kids weren’t very good last year besides Bohm for 2.5 months. I can’t even say Turner was due to age. The only one I think on this Phillies lineup that seeing a decline because of age is Jt Realmuto. And that’s because he’s caught so many innings because they didn’t have a good backup catcher

id also arise 2011 the bats failed them in games 4 and 5. But game 2 their pitching let them down as Lee imploded after being given a 4-0 lead. Would’ve swept that series if Lee didn’t implode 

40 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles adding more OT depth. Pryor blows though so I doubt he's even a lock to make the roster.

 

I remember posting that he would be an under radar guy i could see the Eagles signing and the all knowing blog jumped on me about how they won't because of Fred Johnson.

Where the hell is Julian Vandervelde.  Sign him on the cheap.

 

 

 

Then cut him.

5 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I wonder if Fred thought he had a better pathway to potentially starting in Jax.  

More accurately, I think, is that he has a better chance of making the team in Jax than here.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I mean during the 2011 season they traded for Hunter pence. That was a huge acquisition at the time. Saying they didn’t try to help fix an inconsistent lineup is not true. They went into the season seeing if they needed to make an addition (believed in Mayberry and Dom brown might be called up who was best prospect in MLB at the tome) and they added arguably the biggest bat at the deadline. They weren’t gonna just completely overturn the roster when they had Howard, Utley, Jimmy Rollins, Ruiz and victorino in their primes. The lineup had issues more cause Howard had a foot/ankle issue all year it’s why it finally snapped after getting shots all year. And utley never stayed fully healthy even in the previous years. Polanco even at 35 was better hitter than Pedro Feliz. Their worse hitter based off WAR was Ibanez who had 20 HRs and 84 RBIs. The one spot they could upgrade was in the corner OF spot and they did when they acquired pence  

also they definitely weren’t gonna give Jayson werth the contract he got in the end of 2010 that was a ridiculously bad contract for the nationals.

Howard, Ruiz, victorino, Rollins and utley were all in their primes. They were 29-32 during that season. They weren’t like 34 or 35. Their issue was the fact guys got hurt for portions of the season. Howard was dealing with an injury where he probably should’ve been out 1-2 months to let it heal.

The Phillies issue last year wasn’t casty, Bryce and schwarber (most part— actually best avg and OBP season). It was Bohm who played like Stott after the tigers series in June, Stott was bad, marsh still couldn’t hit lhp and then RHP for 2.5 months. Their young kids weren’t very good last year besides Bohm for 2.5 months. I can’t even say Turner was due to age. The only one I think on this Phillies lineup that seeing a decline because of age is Jt Realmuto. And that’s because he’s caught so many innings because they didn’t have a good backup catcher

I’m speaking more in gross generalizations instead of direct parallels.  For all the crap Amaro got, he was 10x more active with tweaking the roster.

As much as i loved uncle Charley, this dinger derby style of roster building they’re doing is like his philosophy on steroids.  At least back then they protected the big bats a bit better in the lineup. 

I love my PHils, got the baby in her Phillies onesie, I’m just hoping they can peak in October this year instead of July/August.  We know there is going to be stretches of WTF is happening with the bats they have.

Matt Pryor sucks

What's up with this kid?   RAS SCORE MONSTER

6 Foot 4, 214 pounds.  Ran a 4.43 with 39.5 inch vert and 129 broad.  6.85 3 cone (12th at combine) and a 4.05 shuttle (3rd at combine)

See he had a few 100 yard games.  Might be my new favorite sleeper

 

https://athlonsports.com/college/arkansas-razorbacks/arkansas-wr-isaac-teslaa-raises-nfl-draft-stock-at-reeses-senior-bowl 

47 minutes ago, paco said:

I'm more concerned what happens if health insurance companies get their hands on that information.  Would they raise premiums on certain people if they see you are predisposed to certain illnesses?

 

At least this is better than last years slow season foot talk.   

No, insurance companie won't in any way try to screw people.  

14 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Where the hell is Julian Vandervelde.  Sign him on the cheap.

 

 

 

Then cut him.

Fun fact: His kid and my kid went to the same preschool. 

The way he worded this to get clicks and views lol

14 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I’m speaking more in gross generalizations instead of direct parallels.  For all the crap Amaro got, he was 10x more active with tweaking the roster.

As much as i loved uncle Charley, this dinger derby style of roster building they’re doing is like his philosophy on steroids.  At least back then they protected the big bats a bit better in the lineup. 

I love my PHils, got the baby in her Phillies onesie, I’m just hoping they can peak in October this year instead of July/August.  We know there is going to be stretches of WTF is happening with the bats they have.

I thought tomorrow Amaro did a better job taking risks and acquiring players than Dombrowski. Dombrowski has hit on some and some really ugly misses. Amaro it didnt get ugly until after Howard tore his Achilles and halladay fell off a cliff. Frankly, I still believe the 2023 Phillies lost that dbacks series back at the trade deadline when their big hitting acquisition was rudalfo Castro. Can blame the manager for kimbrel being used but their bats were bad 3 out of the last 5 games of that series and with runners in scoring position. That was the year to go all in and Dave didn’t want too.

I’d argue the core of utley, Rollins and Howard in their primes is better than Bryce, schwarber and turner. Plus guys like werth, victorino and Ruiz were clutch for them. Unfortunately casty’s been and also hasn’t. Realmuto can’t hit with risp anymore and the young kids aren’t ready or aren’t what we thought.

I’ve said it on the Phillies thread, I think this season is a make or break season for the Phillies. Because if they regress and miss the playoffs, then I don’t think you’re gonna see them sign big time free agents this off-season. I think they’re gonna let some guys go. And then start infusing the youth in there and let them build it for a year or two and then add big time free agents. Even with Bryce here i think they’d realize they need those young kids to play and develop so he can be helped and maybe even carried more as he declined. Now if they make the playoffs and they’re competitive in the playoffs and guys have good years like Turner, casty, Harper and guys in and at the end of their primes, then I think a guy like a Kyle Tucker is very much in play for the next year in free agency.

 

Eagles are really pouring it on regarding the OL.  Trade for Green, sign Lamm and now Pryor while 6 of their first 11 top 30 visits are O-Linemen. 

The player visits would seem to mainly indicate that Howie will be addressing the OL on Day 2, probably with their 2nd rounder. Not sure any of the OL's they've had in for a visit should warrant their first round pick. Josh Conerly is probably the closest to being late round 1 material, but I'd be pretty disappointed if he were their pick at 32.

By my count, they've had 2 player visits so far that are legit first round players: Ezeiruaku and Hairston.  Obviously they still have 19 other potential visits so we'll see.  But damn, they're hot on the OL thus far.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I wasn't alive during his playing years, but I always loved the old NFL Films programming that was on so I could learn about the history of the NFL. Mike Curtis was a favorite of mine to watch highlights of. I often wonder how if the younger generation of fans know about anything pre-Brady.

 

I was a Buster Rhymes fan myself:

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I finally get my wish of schwarber in the cleanup spot. Hopefully it goes well

 

 

I faded the phillies today in my daily (stacked Angels and Redsox with Skenes pitching), so you know they'll score 15 runs

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Fun fact: His kid and my kid went to the same preschool. 

Did the preschool cut his kid?

21 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I thought tomorrow Amaro did a better job taking risks and acquiring players than Dombrowski. Dombrowski has hit on some and some really ugly misses. Amaro it didnt get ugly until after Howard tore his Achilles and halladay fell off a cliff. Frankly, I still believe the 2023 Phillies lost that dbacks series back at the trade deadline when their big hitting acquisition was rudalfo Castro. Can blame the manager for kimbrel being used but their bats were bad 3 out of the last 5 games of that series and with runners in scoring position. That was the year to go all in and Dave didn’t want too.

I’d argue the core of utley, Rollins and Howard in their primes is better than Bryce, schwarber and turner. Plus guys like werth, victorino and Ruiz were clutch for them. Unfortunately casty’s been and also hasn’t. Realmuto can’t hit with risp anymore and the young kids aren’t ready or aren’t what we thought.

I’ve said it on the Phillies thread, I think this season is a make or break season for the Phillies. Because if they regress and miss the playoffs, then I don’t think you’re gonna see them sign big time free agents this off-season. I think they’re gonna let some guys go. And then start infusing the youth in there and let them build it for a year or two and then add big time free agents. Even with Bryce here i think they’d realize they need those young kids to play and develop so he can be helped and maybe even carried more as he declined. Now if they make the playoffs and they’re competitive in the playoffs and guys have good years like Turner, casty, Harper and guys in and at the end of their primes, then I think a guy like a Kyle Tucker is very much in play for the next year in free agency.

 

Amaro gutted the farm. For better or worse year after year.  Or at least it seemed. That was his downfall. 
Honestly I miss the 07-09 stretch. In 07 you saw they could end up being special. 08 was just insane and 09 they just ran into the bloated tick buzz saw of a roster in the Yankees. I’d argue at that point Rollins turned into that either amazing or incredibly lazy wtf moment guy. Kind of like turner. Utley’s knees gave out and then ya, Howard lost all his power with the Achilles later. 
right now the core is basically Harper. Kyle, love him but he’s not young. As much as I wanted casti moved this offseason, I’m happy to have another year of him showing off that chest and being dreamy while giving the best interviews 🤣

I also look at realcute-o like Ruiz  he’s paid for his glove  

it’s def a make or break year. 

33 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Matt Pryor sucks

Amen.  Awful OT.  Barely serviceable OG.  In theory he can play OT and OG but in theory only.

There’s going to be about a 5 man tryout for RG 

38 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Did the preschool cut his kid?

Nine times. 

What is going on with Steen?  He has been around for a while.  Got beaten out by Becton at RG.  They keep bringing in new OLs to compete for RG position.  New deaftees as well.  The team are that high on Steen?  

6 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

What is going on with Steen?  He has been around for a while.  Got beaten out by Becton at RG.  They keep bringing in new OLs to compete for RG position.  New deaftees as well.  The team are that high on Steen?  

 

Ita not just starting RG.  The team needs depth. None of the starting offensive lineman have shown the ability to stay healthy.

Curious to see how high the Eagles draft OL. I tend to feel Edge and DT are more pressing. Possibly safety as well. I think they could survive with Steen but they clearly are not high on him.

Meanwhile the Eagles offseason budget rolls on

46 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Amaro gutted the farm. For better or worse year after year.  Or at least it seemed. That was his downfall. 
Honestly I miss the 07-09 stretch. In 07 you saw they could end up being special. 08 was just insane and 09 they just ran into the bloated tick buzz saw of a roster in the Yankees. I’d argue at that point Rollins turned into that either amazing or incredibly lazy wtf moment guy. Kind of like turner. Utley’s knees gave out and then ya, Howard lost all his power with the Achilles later. 
right now the core is basically Harper. Kyle, love him but he’s not young. As much as I wanted casti moved this offseason, I’m happy to have another year of him showing off that chest and being dreamy while giving the best interviews 🤣

I also look at realcute-o like Ruiz  he’s paid for his glove  

it’s def a make or break year. 

Amaro gutted the farm but really Carlos Carrasco was the best player to come out of all the players he ever dealt away. Their prospects were always overrated and it kind of panned out that way. Frankly he probably could’ve dealt brown because he never panned out to what they thought. The issue was they were bad at replenishing after they dealt guys. Ed Wade got a lot of crap form Phillies fans but he did a way better job at stocking the farm then the amaro and gillick who came after  

The two injuries that absolutely killed them were Howard and halladay cause both fell off the cliff after 2011. The back for halladay and the Achilles for Howard.

tbh casty is more valuable to them then anything they could get back for him. Frankly he’s fine if he’s your 6-7 hitter. It’s when you rely on him 3-5 where you tend to run into his inconsistency issues. Biggest issue still is protection for Harper. It really stinks that 2023 team lost Rhys in ST. He has flaws but he was a bat they missed that year and with the addition of Turner it would’ve been their best lineup they’ve had during this time.

i think they make the wild card and get bounced in the wild card. Hoping luzardo is better than what he looked in ST. Cause it was not pretty