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Nice to see people who actually understand that the Eagles have been good at this for almost a decade. Regardless of your opinion on Carson Wentz, this all started with him. He was fantastic at the sneak.

 

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2 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Quality as defined how? Impact? He certainly has that. People get too hung up sack numbers at DT

one thing i saw alot if rewatches was his screen awareness. He was sitting on alot of screens and made qbs hold the ball 

Quantity is what I am referencing that is lacking... as in how many times he's NOT on the field.  He's a 1, sometimes 2 down DL.  He has an impact, but not the level of impact you'd want from a guy drafted that high that you traded up to get.  He's not a bust by any means, but I would put him in the 'disappointment' category.  He's never lived up to his physical attributes.  He has all the tools to be as dominant as any DL in the NFL.  

But, he played the same percentage of snaps (37%) as Moro Ojomo.  That's good for a 7th round pick. That's not good for the number 13 overall pick.  He averaged 23 snaps a game.  That's the big issue.  He's a part time player.  And that's not what I look for out of a top of the first round pick.  It seems others feel the same way.

 

He played fewer snaps than the 35 year old Brandon Graham, even though Graham missed a bunch of games with a torn triceps.  He played basically the same number of snaps as Avonte Maddox.  (345 vs. 388).

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Quantity is what I am referencing that is lacking... as in how many times he's NOT on the field.  He's a 1, sometimes 2 down DL.  He has an impact, but not the level of impact you'd want from a guy drafted that high that you traded up to get.  He's not a bust by any means, but I would put him in the 'disappointment' category.  He's never lived up to his physical attributes.  He has all the tools to be as dominant as any DL in the NFL.  

But, he played the same percentage of snaps (37%) as Moro Ojomo.  That's good for a 7th round pick. That's not good for the number 13 overall pick.  He averaged 23 snaps a game.  That's the big issue.  He's a part time player.  And that's not what I look for out of a top of the first round pick.  It seems others feel the same way.

Hitting in the 7th is impressive, not sure if I ever picked up the narrative for why MO dropped.

9 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's like banning drive thrus because a single drunk driver crashed through the side of a restaurant repeatedly.

The Tush Push wasn't to blame for Luvu jumping offsides repeatedly.  It was him trying to time the snap and failing miserably.  The fairer thing would be to penalize multiple offsides in a row more severely.  

The thing about that series was one obvious thing and one subtle thing. The obvious thing was that half the distance to the goal was miniscule and theoretically infinite. So "timing" wasn't even part of the design. They could get 10 penalties and nothing changes. If they could get the Eagles to flinch on just one of those "replays," it's a full 5 yards. This wouldn't even have to be vs the tush push for this to be discussion-worthy for the competition committee. 

The subtle part was getting the free hit on the injured center and the QB each play. Nobody has stopped that play by leaping over the top defensively, yet many teams continue to do this for some reason. If an injury will occur, that will be the most likely cause. Was this a case where they were trying to intentionally re-injure Jurgens by landing on his back repeatedly? Are teams jumping over the top to create injury data to use against the play?

38 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

No I'm not. I heard both DiCecco and ESP say that the Eagles jad a lot of interest in him.  Could be nothing. Could be one guy copying what the other said and the other making it up.  But honestly the Eagles interest in players hasn't been a big secret in the past

Ok...and yeah, definitely taking that with a huge grain of salt.  One of the few people I actually believe when they report they heard something is Tony Pauline.  There may be a few others, but ESP is definitely not one of them (not really familiar with DiCecco's work).

27 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

The thing about that series was one obvious thing and one subtle thing. The obvious thing was that half the distance to the goal was miniscule and theoretically infinite. So "timing" wasn't even part of the design. They could get 10 penalties and nothing changes. If they could get the Eagles to flinch on just one of those "replays," it's a full 5 yards. This wouldn't even have to be vs the tush push for this to be discussion-worthy for the competition committee. 

The subtle part was getting the free hit on the injured center and the QB each play. Nobody has stopped that play by leaping over the top defensively, yet many teams continue to do this for some reason. If an injury will occur, that will be the most likely cause. Was this a case where they were trying to intentionally re-injure Jurgens by landing on his back repeatedly? Are teams jumping over the top to create injury data to use against the play?

I never knew there was an automatic TD fail safe in the rules, but I was thinking at the time about the aspect of how Luvu had very little to lose by repeatedly leaping the line (false start, back injury, helmet to helmet).

Again, if they revert back to the 2005 interpretation there’s a precedent. Also, the refs need to learn how to blow a whistle - too many stalemates are allowed to play out in weird ways and injury (Smitty comes to mind).

 

Can't wait for the DTR vs Pickett game.  People will have irrational interest in that

This is who I want at Edge for us.  Dude shows up time and time again when it matters most.  Very good athlete still 21 (May).  Good basketball player

 

39 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Hitting in the 7th is impressive, not sure if I ever picked up the narrative for why MO dropped.

I read somewhere that he was outspoken about how the team worked/prepared lor something about the team culture at Texas. I can’t recall exactly, but it seemed to me to not be a bad thing, so it makes me wonder if the coaching staff didn’t have nice things to say about him. 

40 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

No I'm not. I heard both DiCecco and ESP say that the Eagles jad a lot of interest in him.  Could be nothing. Could be one guy copying what the other said and the other making it up.  But honestly the Eagles interest in players hasn't been a big secret in the past

Ok...and yeah, definitely taking that with a huge grain of salt.  One of the few people I actually believe when they report they heard something is Tony Pauline.  There may be a few others, but ESP is definitely not one of them (not really familiar with DiCecco's work).

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I read somewhere that he was outspoken about how the team worked/prepared lor something about the team culture at Texas. I can’t recall exactly, but it seemed to me to not be a bad thing, so it makes me wonder if the coaching staff didn’t have nice things to say about him. 

He's definitely an outlier with going to college at 16, playing a lot ball despite being very young.  I figured it might be one of these... he isn't 100% committed / doesn't really enjoy the sport situations - but he comes off fine, puzzling.

12 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

This is who I want at Edge for us.  Dude shows up time and time again when it matters most.  Very good athlete still 21 (May).  Good basketball player

 

I'm still trying to figure out if the FO/Vic wants a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 base end - or are they're ambivalent and just want a player that can fill a role.

5 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I'm still trying to figure out if the FO/Vic wants a 3-4 OLB or a 4-3 base end - or are they're ambivalent and just want a player that can fill a role.

I'm thinking one of each is on the shopping list. 

10 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He's definitely an outlier with going to college at 16, playing a lot ball despite being very young.  I figured it might be one of these... he isn't 100% committed / doesn't really enjoy the sport situations - but he comes off fine, puzzling.

I googled "Moro Ojomo outspoken Texas” and this popped up. 

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Ojomo falling to the 7th for that was always crazy.

Juat read that ESPN is having the Super Bowl in 2027.  Wonder how long until a streaming service gets a Super Bowl.

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I googled "Moro Ojomo outspoken Texas” and this popped up. 

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So.... right message, wrong method?

Old buddy Reich gets a job.

17 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So.... right message, wrong method?

Likely attributed to youth.

Vegans always look so sickly.

 

 https://x.com/CameronWolfe/status/1906685485331681614 

 

:offtopic:The tweet was McDaniel saying he'd like to be on a hot seat like Sirriani last year but my post is this:
Doesn't it look like the head of the guy in purple is photoshopped on?

 

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4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

 https://x.com/CameronWolfe/status/1906685485331681614 

 

:offtopic:The tweet was McDaniel saying he'd like to be on a hot seat like Sirriani last year but my post is this:
Doesn't it look like the head of the guy in purple is photoshopped on?

 

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It really really does!!! That’sa good spot that.

11 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

I think he’s very good at his role, the run D is noticeably better when he’s on the field.  The issues is we’ve only seen brief and fleeting flashes of what he could be.  He’s a hard one to pin a value…while no position is ‘easy to replace’.  A run stopping NT is one of the easier positions to fill for not a lot of money.  It will be interesting to see what happens with him contract wise.  I anticipate they will pick up his option and let him play it out.

The way I look at Davis is, yes he's good when he's on the field but he isn't on the field enough and so far he isn't really good enough to pay a fully guaranteed 5th year of $11million.

I look at his numbers and I look at someone like say Harrison Phillips, over his rookie contract Phillips averaged 30 % of snaps, Davis at the moment sits at around 34%, Harrison had 7 tackles for loss and 13 QB hits in 4 years, Davis currently has 6 TFL and 6 QB Hits in 3 years, Davis has 1 more sack over his 3 years, Phillips has more tackles. I should point out that Phillips missed all but three games of his second year due to an ACL, so when I say 4 years numbers it was really 3 and a bit.

Phillips second contract in 2021 was for $6.5mill APY and his extension to that he signed last year was for $7.5million APY, and that was after playing ~63% of snaps and having as many QB hits a year for each of those years as Davis has for his career so far.

I would give Davis a clear target for conditioning and snap count at the beginning of the year, if he kicks on, then by all means work out an extension for him, but he'd have to take a biiiig leap in production terms to be worth near $11million per.

So over the weekend I watched some of the season highlights and some of the mic’d up stuff from the play offs… Makes you realise all over again how good and how special this season was.

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