3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

So if Cleveland doesn't go QB at 2 what could we expect in return for a simple drop down from 32 to 33 so Cleveland can get that 5th year eligibility?  Could we swap 134 for 104?  Is the hope that Sanders or Dart keep falling so either Cleveland, New Orleans, etc. offer up a ransom to move up?

 

Based on the draft value chart it would be Cleveland's comp 6th round pick towards the end of that round. 

Still have that weird feeling that Emeka Egbuka is going to be our 1st pick.  Inside outside versatility and probably the best blocking WR in the draft.  

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Based on the draft value chart it would be Cleveland's comp 6th round pick towards the end of that round. 

yeah i noticed it's only like 10 points but think because of the scenario Howie would get a good amount more.  That's why I was thinking 134 to 104.  Or maybe he goes 96 to 94 and we also get pick 179

 

 

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Milton is a big arm who can run. McKee has proven to be a QB. Milton has proven nothing more than the flawed QB prospect he was. McKee is by far a more valuable asset than Milton. However, people saying 1st or 2nd round are out in left field.

Id expect a 4th rounder and be on the fence. Id take a 3rd without hesitation.

And its mostly as a favor to McKee to advance his career. Ideally he is more valuable to us. But, this is also the whole purpose of being a QB factory. Accepting the draft pick for these guys when it comes. Drafting in the 6th, and turning it to a 4th or 3rd is a win for the team, and for the player.

4th I would guess is possible. But I'd think a pick goes back. I'd just keep McKee and continue to develop him. I like what I saw but it's such an extremely small sample size I don't think it vaults his value all that much. 

11 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Still have that weird feeling that Emeka Egbuka is going to be our 1st pick.  Inside outside versatility and probably the best blocking WR in the draft.  

That would be terrible. 

They aren't trading McKee.  They'd have kept Pickett if they were trading McKee

6 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They aren't trading McKee.  They'd have kept Pickett if they were trading McKee

unless they like Thompson-Robinson better than McKee. Then theyll be completely comfortable trading McKee.

19 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They aren't trading McKee.  They'd have kept Pickett if they were trading McKee

 

They just tried to trade for Joe Milton.

12 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Colin Castleton?!

BGM-71 TOW missile. Had the privilege of witnessing operational tests of these once. Impressive weapon!

As it stands currently, here are the players I think are most likely to be drafted by the Eagles in no particular order. I was going to do a top 5, but I've narrowed it down to 7 I feel best about as Eagles kinda picks:

Walter Nolen
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Mykel Williams
Shemar Stewart
Derrick Harmon
Grey Zabel
Josh Simmons

Absent from the list: 

Jalon Walker - I think he'd be really high on Howie's list, but don't think he'll be there
Jihaad Campbell - same
James Pearce - if the character issues are true, Howie's not taking him as much as I love the player and would want him.
Malaki Starks - don't think they're going safety in round 1. Trading away a good safety only to fill the hole with your first round pick feels like bad process. Especially for a position they don't value as much as OL and DL.
Donovan Jackson - don't think they'd go OL in round 1 without OT versatility.

I think they're going DL in round 1 with a smaller chance for an OT they play at guard for a few years.

 

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

As it stands currently, here are the players I think are most likely to be drafted by the Eagles in no particular order. I was going to do a top 5, but I've narrowed it down to 7 I feel best about as Eagles kinda picks:

Walter Nolen
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Mykel Williams
Shemar Stewart
Derrick Harmon
Grey Zabel
Josh Simmons

Absent from the list: 

Jalon Walker - I think he'd be really high on Howie's list, but don't think he'll be there
Jihaad Campbell - same
James Pearce - if the character issues are true, Howie's not taking him as much as I love the player and would want him.
Malaki Starks - don't think they're going safety in round 1. Trading away a good safety only to fill the hole with your first round pick feels like bad process. Especially for a position they don't value as much as OL and DL.
Donovan Jackson - don't think they'd go OL in round 1 without OT versatility.

I think they're going DL in round 1 with a smaller chance for an OT they play at guard for a few years.

 

 

Why doesn't Donovan Jackson have OT versatility?  He just filled in extremely well and won a National Championship playing LT.  Also has 33.5 inch arms.  I get that his strongest position is OG where I think he will be one of the best guards in the NFL within a year or two

1 hour ago, garingovt2000 said:

Still have that weird feeling that Emeka Egbuka is going to be our 1st pick.  Inside outside versatility and probably the best blocking WR in the draft.  

I would be extremely happy if this happens. Quality WR depth has been an under the radar concern of mine over the past few seasons. AJ and Devonta are as good as any duo in the league, but they're not getting any younger.

2 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

 

Why doesn't Donovan Jackson have OT versatility?  He just filled in extremely well and won a National Championship playing LT.  Also has 33.5 inch arms.  I get that his strongest position is OG where I think he will be one of the best guards in the NFL within a year or two

I'm not so sure teams view him as a full-time OT, but more of a guard who can slide out to OT. If they view him as such, it changes things, but from everything I've been reading teams see him as a guard first. If Eagles go OL in round 1 I think it's someone they view who can potentially be an all pro OT first, but who can also be good at OG.

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't know where this idea came from or how it ever grew in popularity to where it is now, but one thing I know... Sean is literally one of the best interviewers out there ND really does dig deep and gets stories that you don't hear about from the interviewees.  

Great stuff.  (Maybe the sauces act as a bit of a truth serum making people give up more information too!)  

Completely agree…

1 hour ago, garingovt2000 said:

Still have that weird feeling that Emeka Egbuka is going to be our 1st pick.  Inside outside versatility and probably the best blocking WR in the draft.  

Target 3 will be a huge need if they move Goedert.

Think Luther Burden is a much better on-field fit (though not reading great things about his off the field). Enough speed to threaten on clearout routes, YAC ability rivals what Goedert has done over his career. Get a Michael Mayer type on the cheap to do the dirty work at TE, and that would be an intriguing group.

49 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

BGM-71 TOW missile. Had the privilege of witnessing operational tests of these once. Impressive weapon!

The wire guidance I get, how they managed the fly over / top down attack is beyond me.  I do not want to be in a T-72 nowadays (or any day really). 

23 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:

I hadn't... Here is my 1st crack at it

8 out of 10 Howies - No explanation needed

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

unless they like Thompson-Robinson better than McKee. Then theyll be completely comfortable trading McKee.

I don't think that's entirely out of the question, DTR showed in college that in the right system he can be effective, and his genuine running threat would mean the offense could run a more consistent scheme if we did have to put the back up in.

Maybe liking him better is a bit rich, but liking him enough to take the opportunity of adding a mid rounder for McKee?  I could see it.

17 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

I think the McKee discussion is travelling off the rails some.  I find it hard to believe he has value around the league at more than a 5th round pick.  4th at the absolute maximum.  Talk of first and second round picks sounds like a daydream, IMO.  

Question: How good do you think McKee is compared to any of the QBs coming out this year?

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

City Connect is one of the dumbest thing that Nike has done. I pray this doesn't find it's way to the NFL.

 

I think the Chi-Sox one looks fantastic, actually.  I like their all-black unis, but this would be an excellent third jersey to wear 10-12 days per season.   

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

Target 3 will be a huge need if they move Goedert.

Think Luther Burden is a much better on-field fit (though not reading great things about his off the field). Enough speed to threaten on clearout routes, YAC ability rivals what Goedert has done over his career. Get a Michael Mayer type on the cheap to do the dirty work at TE, and that would be an intriguing group.

I like Burden, I'd think he's gone by 32 but regardless, no WR for me 

23 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I don't think that's entirely out of the question, DTR showed in college that in the right system he can be effective, and his genuine running threat would mean the offense could run a more consistent scheme if we did have to put the back up in.

Maybe liking him better is a bit rich, but liking him enough to take the opportunity of adding a mid rounder for McKee?  I could see it.

Yup - I like DTR enough, not better.

10 minutes ago, just relax said:

Question: How good do you think McKee is compared to any of the QBs coming out this year?

Let me say this first -- I wish I could find the audio of the pre-draft interview Tanner McKee did on NFL Radio; it was one of the best and most impressive prospect interviews I've ever heard.  McKee is so well-spoken, grounded, and down-to-earth I thought "this kid sounds like he's 35 years-old!"  He's done missionary work in South America and I admired his perspective on some world issues he touched on in that interview.

I think it was @HazletonEagle or @McMVPwho asked me to take a look at him as a prospect, because I was saying something about wanting a QB prospect who was a distributor first and spread the ball around.  I was very impressed with his college tape -- he throws a good ball, can use the short, intermediate, and deep areas of the field, and good arm strength.  His main issue is a general lack of mobility.

To finally answer your question -- I think Cam Ward is the best QB prospect in this class.  All things being equal, he'd be a late-first round prospect.  I think Sanders and Jaxson Dart are 2nd round prospects; I like Dart more than Sanders.  I think Tyler Shough is the next best QB prospect in this class; full disclosure -- I've liked Shough since 2019 at Oregon and I wish he had better coaching there.  His subsequent injury history at Texas Tech gives me cause for concern or I'd have him ranked as the 2nd best QB prospect behind Ward.

Tanner McKee slots right behind Dart and Shough for me, if I'm ignoring his Eagles stint and treating him as a pure prospect.  So, I guess that would be Round 3 value, if he was a pure rookie.  

  

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Let me say this first -- I wish I could find the audio of the pre-draft interview Tanner McKee did on NFL Radio; it was one of the best and most impressive prospect interviews I've ever heard.  McKee is so well-spoken, grounded, and down-to-earth I thought "this kid sounds like he's 35 years-old!"  He's done missionary work in South America and I admired his perspective on some world issues he touched on in that interview.

I think it was @HazletonEagle or @McMVPwho asked me to take a look at him as a prospect, because I was saying something about wanting a QB prospect who was a distributor first and spread the ball around.  I was very impressed with his college tape -- he throws a good ball, can use the short, intermediate, and deep areas of the field, and good arm strength.  His main issue is a general lack of mobility.

To finally answer your question -- I think Cam Ward is the best QB prospect in this class.  All things being equal, he'd be a late-first round prospect.  I think Sanders and Jaxson Dart are 2nd round prospects; I like Dart more than Sanders.  I think Tyler Shough is the next best QB prospect in this class; full disclosure -- I've liked Shough since 2019 at Oregon and I wish he had better coaching there.  His subsequent injury history at Texas Tech gives me cause for concern or I'd have him ranked as the 2nd best QB prospect behind Ward.

Tanner McKee slots right behind Dart and Shough for me, if I'm ignoring his Eagles stint and treating him as a pure prospect.  So, I guess that would be Round 3 value, if he was a pure rookie.  

  

Yep.

I think the eagles can say we drafted this kid in the 6th round, and have developed him to the point where he is as good as anyone you can get in round 3.

3rd, or possibly 4th seems very fair.

1st or 2nd round... I dont understand where those expectations would come from.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Let me say this first -- I wish I could find the audio of the pre-draft interview Tanner McKee did on NFL Radio; it was one of the best and most impressive prospect interviews I've ever heard.  McKee is so well-spoken, grounded, and down-to-earth I thought "this kid sounds like he's 35 years-old!"  He's done missionary work in South America and I admired his perspective on some world issues he touched on in that interview.

I think it was @HazletonEagle or @McMVPwho asked me to take a look at him as a prospect, because I was saying something about wanting a QB prospect who was a distributor first and spread the ball around.  I was very impressed with his college tape -- he throws a good ball, can use the short, intermediate, and deep areas of the field, and good arm strength.  His main issue is a general lack of mobility.

To finally answer your question -- I think Cam Ward is the best QB prospect in this class.  All things being equal, he'd be a late-first round prospect.  I think Sanders and Jaxson Dart are 2nd round prospects; I like Dart more than Sanders.  I think Tyler Shough is the next best QB prospect in this class; full disclosure -- I've liked Shough since 2019 at Oregon and I wish he had better coaching there.  His subsequent injury history at Texas Tech gives me cause for concern or I'd have him ranked as the 2nd best QB prospect behind Ward.

Tanner McKee slots right behind Dart and Shough for me, if I'm ignoring his Eagles stint and treating him as a pure prospect.  So, I guess that would be Round 3 value, if he was a pure rookie.  

  

Thank you. I think this is a very fair assessment. I particularly like your last paragraph, because he is not a pure rookie. He has actually started a league game and played well and he has time in a quality system with pro coaching, which I think bumps him up to the second round someplace. For those who say well, he was drafted late so any return that brings a higher pick than was used on him is a good return, I would mention Brady, Moon, Warner, and Romo. To me, McKee looks the part. I also think the Eagles could win a lot of games with him starting should Hurts miss significant time. With that in mind, I think a second round pick for him is a bargain for the acquiring team and an absolute minimum compensation for us. JMHO.