2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The only sane words in your reply are the ones above. Everything else you typed is just hot air trolling.  There is considerably less than one chance in 100 million that sanders will drop to 32 and the Eagles will take him.  Why are you tilting at windmills … even more importantly why are you bothering others with your windmill drivel?

I still think there's a good chance the Rams draft Jaxson Dart at #26 to develop until Stafford is gone (2 years).  If not, I could definitely see teams looking to trade up to #32 at the Eagles pick to draft him, ahead of the bad teams (CLE, NYG) who don't draft QB at the top of Round 1.

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The only sane words in your reply are the ones above. Everything else you typed is just hot air trolling.  There is considerably less than one chance in 100 million that sanders will drop to 32 and the Eagles will take him.  Why are you tilting at windmills … even more importantly why are you bothering others with your windmill drivel?

 

You act like such an a-hole sometimes for no reason at all.  Especially odd when you get caught up saying some of the most out there absurd crap of anyone on these boards at times.  

As I referenced in my original post, I brought up this scenario because I saw in a mock draft last night that they had Sanders dropping to the second round.  

26 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

You act like such an a-hole sometimes for no reason at all.  Especially odd when you get caught up saying some of the most out there absurd crap of anyone on these boards at times.  

As I referenced in my original post, I brought up this scenario because I saw in a mock draft last night that they had Sanders dropping to the second round.  

Shut up, dummy

Just now, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Since the NFL owns the copyright, they won't embed. Click the link to watch these on our YouTube channel. 

Saquon Barkley's 60 yard NFCCG TD called 4 ways

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAdqab0Q7CI

 

2 hours ago, just relax said:

Are you referring to Grey Zabel or someone else? I like Zabel a lot and he has played G and C. I think it's critical we get a backup C and position versatility makes him very appealing to me.

I don’t think the Eagles are looking at a starter and maybe just an emergency C.  (If Jurgens is going to miss time, options include Dickerson sliding to C and I would think Keegan to LG, for example.)  I kind of look at Zabel and Jared Wilson as probable starting level Cs.   I am thinking more of players available Day three.  That’s Drew Kendall from Boston College, Jackson Slater from Sacramento State (it’s not just the idea of a Jackie Slater on the OL, although he first came to my attention because of his name) and Josh Gray from Oregon State.  Possibly the kid from Ohio State, McLaughlin although his snaps aren’t as consistent as I would like.

I haven't liked the picks available with the new ESPN draft engine. This was one of best I came up with I feel. Traded a 5th this year and next year to move up for Belton 

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Shut up, dummy

I can't help but read that and hear Fred G. Sanford's voice when I read it. 

 

 

It seems like the guys the Eagles are checking out with visits suggest a trade down is a likely scenario to me.  Still a few more visits to go but they certainly don't seem to be checking out top 20 prospects

I toyed with the ESPN trades in their draft simulator. I personally covet Mykel Williams, so wanted to trade up to a somewhat reasonable area, was able to go up to 13. 

gave up in 2025: 1, 2, 5, 5  and in 2026: 3, 5

Got back in 2025: 1, 5, 7

Too rich? 

 

7 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I think chances are that over the next two games, given past history, that Sanders would have at least a couple games to start and play.  With the talent the Eagles have chances are he could look good and then a QB desperate team that might have had hesitations on drafting him but whatever alternative path they selected didn't work out would then be willing to trade a first.

Name 1 team that did this with a first round pick: drafted a player who could potentially never play for that team, then try and flip him likely for something less than what we drafted him for

 

That is obnoxiously stupid if it isn’t trolling

3 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Name 1 team that did this with a first round pick: drafted a player who could potentially never play for that team, then try and flip him likely for something less than what we drafted him for

 

That is obnoxiously stupid if it isn’t trolling

 

It's forward thinking.  Innovative thinking.  What team signs their franchise QB to a huge new deal and follows it up by drafting a QB in the 2nd round? Just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean that something can't be done. 

33 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I can't help but read that and hear Fred G. Sanford's voice when I read it. 

 

 

Yes!! Thats exactly how to read/hear it

4 hours ago, TEW said:

I actually like this draft class in a lot of respects. It just lacks the top end talent, but the mid rounds are going to have a lot of gems and the late rounds have a lot of really good athletes to develop.

Lack of super stars really makes it uninteresting, but the more i look through the mid rounds i see a lot of projects and potential replacements.  I know mocks are just mocks and these sims are all over but I’m learning a good bit about some of these kids and I’m intrigued.

7 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I think chances are that over the next two games, given past history, that Sanders would have at least a couple games to start and play.  With the talent the Eagles have chances are he could look good and then a QB desperate team that might have had hesitations on drafting him but whatever alternative path they selected didn't work out would then be willing to trade a first.

Again, the safer bet for investing draft capital for future returns is simply to trade a pick now, for a pick in a future draft. And as I also stated earlier, we can probably get a better  all around trade grade by simply trading down out of #32 (so somebody else that is QB needy can select Sanders) like we did in 2018 when we received a 2nd and a 4th in 2018 and an additional 2nd in 2019 from Baltimore. 

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

🎣🎣🎣

I know you're not an RTK fan, but I think this is just an idea he believes has merit. I disagree, which is why I pitched a rebuttal. I think ever since we fleeced Miami with AJ Feeley and maybe the Vikings with Bradford as well,  some Eagles fans have believed this is something we can always do with every QB. They thought maybe we'd do that with Hurts, or Minshew, or Pickett, etc... We didn't get much for Pickett, nothing from Minshew, and Hurts had no trade value (greater than his draft value) until it was clear he was a bona fide starter and we needed him. Had the Wentz situation not imploded like it did, I don't know if Hurts' NFL opportunity would have come during his rookie contract. 

54 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

It's forward thinking.  Innovative thinking.  What team signs their franchise QB to a huge new deal and follows it up by drafting a QB in the 2nd round? Just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean that something can't be done. 

There is a substantial difference between spending a 2nd round pick at a position where the starter has already had multiple major injuries in his short career, and spending a 1st round pick on a position where the starter has never missed more than 2 games in any season.

Im not opposed to going 3rd round QB, but first round is just throwing away draft value for no particular reason. The ONLY way you could endorse this is if you believe there’s a strong possibility Hurts is not on the roster in 3 years, a la Wentz. Any other scenario and it’s catastrophically naive. We’d be lucky to get a day 2 pick for a first round QB who sat on the bench for some/most of his rookie deal; look at Lance, Rosen, Pickett, Mayfield… even Fields who shined at times. There is zero precedent for what you’re projecting.

4 hours ago, just relax said:

Are you referring to Grey Zabel or someone else? I like Zabel a lot and he has played G and C. I think it's critical we get a backup C and position versatility makes him very appealing to me.

The Eagles haven't had a Zabel in a long time.   It's time to fix that.

4 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Just doesn't seem like something he should really be putting out there in public.  Another slip for Graham.  Because now it calls into question, well why wouldn't they practice it against the starting defense?  Why not let the starting defense get to go against that when other teams run it?  Is it because of safety concerns? 

Uh... no.  When does the Number 1 defense strap up and go against the Number offense in practice?

Other teams don't run it nearly as well.  Why should they practice against it when other teams don't run it as well?  How often do defenses practice against traditional sneaks?   

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The Eagles haven't had a Zabel in a long time.   It's time to fix that.

It really didn’t work all that well the first time though. Top ten pick who had to switch positions and only became an average level starter at his new spot.

9 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

It really didn’t work all that well the first time though. Top ten pick who had to switch positions and only became an average level starter at his new spot.

Well... yeah, but its a name from the past.     For the longest time I confused Steve Zabel with Steve Sabol.    

11 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

 

 

Didinger is probably THE most overrated media member in Philly, period. His contributions as a historian are legit but people act like this guy is God's gift to football analysis which is laughable.

8 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Brandon Graham says Eagles don't practice the tueh push, contradicting what Sorianni has said.

 

 

 

Kay Adams using the term raw dawg takes my mind to all kinds of dark places.

3 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

It seems like the guys the Eagles are checking out with visits suggest a trade down is a likely scenario to me.  Still a few more visits to go but they certainly don't seem to be checking out top 20 prospects

We have too many needs and not enough premium picks to trade up. Trade down would be ideal.

5 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I didn't like what I saw from Gunnar Helm. He looked slow and sluggish.

Here is an alternative TE to Helm.  You may want to check him out.

 

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

I know you're not an RTK fan, but I think this is just an idea he believes has merit. I disagree, which is why I pitched a rebuttal. I think ever since we fleeced Miami with AJ Feeley and maybe the Vikings with Bradford as well,  some Eagles fans have believed this is something we can always do with every QB. They thought maybe we'd do that with Hurts, or Minshew, or Pickett, etc... We didn't get much for Pickett, nothing from Minshew, and Hurts had no trade value (greater than his draft value) until it was clear he was a bona fide starter and we needed him. Had the Wentz situation not imploded like it did, I don't know if Hurts' NFL opportunity would have come during his rookie contract. 

Fair enough.  In addition to the very good points you have made, there is the opportunity cost that comes with using a valuable pick on a player whose only likely value to the team is in the down the road trading of him to a QB needy team.  The "lost” value comes from the snaps that aren’t being manned by the player whose only likely would have been drafted instead of Sanders.

RTK should think about the "merit” in a simple balance beam way with the value received on one end of the balance beam and the value surrendered on the other end of the balance beam.  Bottom-line his proposal has much, much more value surrendered than value received … much, much more.

3 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

Lack of super stars really makes it uninteresting, but the more i look through the mid rounds i see a lot of projects and potential replacements.  I know mocks are just mocks and these sims are all over but I’m learning a good bit about some of these kids and I’m intrigued.

How does lack of super stars make it uninteresting?  Picking at #32, the Eagles were never going to get one of the super stars.  Taking the time to imagine one of the super stars in Kelly Green is simply indulging in fantasy.