2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Well, I lasted 10 days without complaining.

 

Not interviewing a single outside candidate for the OC job is ridiculous. 

They had to to satisfy the Rooney Rule, no?

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Of course they hire the guy that received such a glowing praise from Hurts

I mean they hired a guy last time (Johnson) that Hurts knew well and liked.  That didn't work out.

I think the offense is going to look the same.  Did the offense really look like what Kellen Moore usually ran at Dallas and LA?  The offense is going to look how Hurts wants it to.  His words.

Stick to the formula of run the ball with Barkley and the O-line, play good defense and Jalen makes smart plays, they'll be right back.

17 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They aren't too bright out there.     

Seriously, read through that thread.  They are REALLY f'n stupid.  

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Didn't they have to comply with the Rooney Rule?

I was just going to ask who they internally interviewed for it

The Rooney rule can be internal. They probably just interviewed minority position coaches 

 

I don't love this, but Patullo was significantly more qualified than Brian Johnson. 

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I think they knock out the non FAs first - need to know those numbers before you can structure Baun and Becton's contracts. Order of operations is important.

But Baun for $10/30M we know won't happen. Howie has to sign him with Dean being uncertain. I don't think Dean should be seen as a long term piece as of yet here because of that. One year at a time with him. Trotter could step up and take the Dean role and not cost anything for next 3 years.

He was the passing game coordinator 2021-2024

So I guess if you liked the passing in those years it's great news and if not then lets go depression!

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

No, you don't have to for internal promotions 

That's an interesting loophole

Did anyone really think they were gonna hire an outside OC? It was Patullo's job the minute Kellen did his press conference.

12 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Dude has no experience. Stupid move. Hurts didn’t seemed too thrilled about him when asked either. 

He gave a diplomatic answer. That’s what he does.

5 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:

how do we know they didn't interview anyone? They don't have to announce it, do they?

It would get out. Whoever interviewed would want his name out there, especially for a job like this. 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No, you don't have to for internal promotions 

Weird, because they interviewed Scheelhaase or whatever his name is when they promoted Brian Johnson, didn’t they?

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Well, I lasted 10 days without complaining.

 

Not interviewing a single outside candidate for the OC job is ridiculous. 

I’m guessing they gave Sirianni "one wish” for winning the Super Bowl and this was it. 

The OC role here is going to be Nick Sirianni being comfortable and maintaining his influence on this offense. I am not too worried about losing Moore. This offense's identity is established. And the players have full ownership of it at this point and dictate what happens. This is like coaching an all star team right now. The coaches just let the players do what they do best and not get in the way. This team is comfortable with its identity and will just keep doing what it does. And Stout is a big piece of it as well. OC hire today is much different than when Brian Johnson took over. We now have Barkley and this can run basically on auto pilot til he's gone.

23 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

In order of importance and what I think we will do:

1. Extend Cam -- we need to lock Cam up to understand what we are dealing with cap wise moving forward. Hopefully something like 4 years, $50-$60mm gets it done wtth $30mm guaranteed. I'd be looking to do this as soon as possible.

2. Try and get Slay to reduce his 2025 option bonus -- per Spotrac, Slay is due $16mm in cash this year, which we can't pay and he'd never get on the open market. Gilmore was 1 year, $7mm with the Vikings. If Slay dropped to $8mm, and it all came from the option bonus, you save ~$1.3mm in cap space for 2025.

3. Make Bradberry a post June 1 cut -- yeah, we're not paying his $16mm non-gteed option bonus. $2.1mm in 2025 savings, $7.7mm in dead cap for 2026.

4. Extend Reed - He's under contract for 2025, but should get it done now before it gets more expensive.

5. Pickup 5th year option on Davis at $12mm - I know this is controversial, but at this price it is worth it and you can punt an extension decision.

6. See if BG wants to come back - he's in Kelce territory and can play as long as he likes.

7. Resign Baun - I still have doubts that Howie will do it, but 3 years/$30mm with ~$20mm gteed seems like a reasonable deal. Had Dean stayed healthy, we'd have more leverage here.

8. Resign Becton - hopefully he does a reasonable deal to come back. I can't see him getting $20mm/year from anyone.

9. Say goodbye to Sweat and Williams - Hunt and Ojomo need to step up, and we need to pray Huff sucks less (he is untradeable and uncuttable)

 

Left out goedert

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Weird, because they interviewed Scheelhaase or whatever his name is when they promoted Brian Johnson, didn’t they?

I'll recant my original statement, I think I am just confusing myself because Patriots didn't follow it to promote Jerod Mayo but I think that was a weird loophole. 

We'll see what comes out. Maybe they just interviewed Jemal Singleton or someone internally to satisfy it. 

 

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

The OC role here is going to be Nick Sirianni being comfortable and maintaining his influence on this offense. I am not too worried about losing Moore. This offense's identity is established. And the players have full ownership of it and this point and dictate what happens. This is like coaching an all star team right now. The coaches just let the players do what they do best and not get in the way. This team is comfortable with its identity and will just keep doing what it does. And Stout is a big piece of it as well. OC hire today is much different than when Brian Johnson took over. We now have Barkley and this can run basically on auto pilot til he's gone.

Not to mention the defense is way better off under Fangio than last year under Desai and Patricia.

This past year wasn't Moore's offense.  It was the same it's been since Sirianni came here.  It's custom made for the QB except now we have a dangerous player at RB.

13 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Did anyone really think they were gonna hire an outside OC? It was Patullo's job the minute Kellen did his press conference.

I figured as much but what does it hurt to do a search and pick some brains 

57 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

This is a deep enough draft on the d-line that it is reasonable to look to the draft to replace Sweat and Williams.  I think any DT is going to look pretty good next to Carter.  Ojomo, I think, has played as well as Williams and is better at defending the run.   Keeping Williams would be an overpay.  I would be fine with them working on a way to keep Slay but he had limitations as a tackler this season.  In my view, Baun and CJGJ are much more important than Williams, Sweat and Slay.  

I don't disagree that Ojomo can step in and do great. But one, you lose proven Superbowl quality depth and two, you have to pay Ojomo most likely, next offseason with an extension after the great year he has. So you defer this decision for one year probably. So you will have to pay one of these 2 studs one way or the other. Ojomo will only get more expensive if he does what you think he will. Have to pick one or the other going forward. Can have both for the next 2 years guaranteed just by signing Williams. I like that proposition. And I have Jordan Davis as a role player who will play limited snaps. Hope we can resign him for his designated run stopping role, but will kick that can down the road and figure that out in 2 years.

Welp they screwed up the offseason already. Way to repeat the same mistake you’ve made 3 times already 

 

I hope we do something new at least

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Welp they screwed up the offseason already. Way to repeat the same mistake you’ve made 3 times already 

What mistake is that?

6 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Which Rams game was that?  The snow game in the playoffs?   That was 9 snaps, in bad weather.  That's not exactly the sample size I would be looking for to project him for the future.

He had 112 defensive snaps all year in the regular season.  More than 50 of those came against the Giants in the final game, and another 10 came in garbage time against the Cowboys in that final matchup.  He hit double digit snaps only one other time during the regular season, against the Saints with 11.  

 

He could very well be everything we could want in a CB to start opposite Mitchell.  But, all we really have to go on right now is our previous projections of what he could be.   He's had 2 years in the NFL, and still hasn't really gotten on the field yet on defense.  And he's 2 DCs removed from the coaching staff that was in place when he was first drafted.  Honestly, we don't really know what the current coaching staff thinks about him.  But, we do know this... he was CB#6 last year (He was behind Slay, Mitchell, Dejean, Rodgers and even Maddox).  (or he's CB#4 amongst the 'outside' CBs, if we want to delineate between outside and slot CBs.)

I don't have any reason based on what he's done at the NFL level to think that his presence will influence their draft strategy... and I think if they can get him cheaply, that they'd prefer to resign Rodgers and let him be the starter opposite Mitchell, and have Ringo as no higher than CB3 amongst the outside CBs. 

 

There's a lot of intrigue coming this offseason, and it starts now.  Hopefully Howie can lock up a couple guys before the free agency window officially opens.  Looking specifically at Baun and Becton, but Rodgers would be a guy I think they really want back as well.  Slay is under contract for 2025, but he's going to be very pricey.  I expect him to be a post-June 1 cut... 'saving' $4.3M on this year's cap, and carrying $13.2M over to 2026.  If they keep him around, he's $13.8M against the cap, with a dead cap hit of $10M next year.  (They are on the hook for $23.8M for him over two years if they keep him, or $17.5M if they cut him... that difference in cost MIGHT be enough to resign Rodgers.)

I was pointing out the playoff game and I would throw away anything from year 1 with what the defense had to

go through with the coordinator situation. I think this upcoming year is very important to his future here and I think he'll be fine but we will see.