9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There was a run on the second tier TEs early in round 2. Maybe it started earlier than he expected and the price from 64 to the late 40's was too much.

I also think DTs Norman-Lott and Turner going consecutively right before their pick was unexpected as well.

I will definitely be monitoring some of my guys who went in range of the Eagles in the 2nd and 3rd for the next few years and lament it for years if they go on to be studs and Mukuba and Robinson don't. Really wanted guys like Shemar Turner, Green(though I get why they passed), Josaiah Stewart, Jack Sawyer, etc.

But then again I really wanted Beebee last year and they got Hunt and it worked out pretty well.

2 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

I dont know wtf to make of Cine. Complete wild card that i kinda liked out of school

But he has done squat

There has never been any question that he was a throw of the dice. Currently those dice are still in motion. How they land is an unknown. Both interesting and exciting.

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they did try to trade up in the 2nd round I'm curious who it was for. I doubt it was Mike Green. They probably weren't drafting him and they could have gone up 6 spots if they wanted. Same for Shemar Turner. He was taken two picks before. They could have jumped up 3 spots. Nic Scourton? Anthony Belton? TJ Sanders? Maybe Ezeiruaku but he went high.

Howie said they went boom boom boom. I think Sanders, Ez, Taylor maybe.

20 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

His daddy probably gave him everything but time - and now he’s a 21-year old acting like a child.

Eh. Prank calling isn't new. Recording yourself prank calling someone famous during a very public setting and putting it online is something entirely different IMO lol

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Simmons is coming off a year where he didn't play as well as 2023, so I don't think he'll get close to what he got last year. We'll see. I think McCollum stinks, I'm not big on Brown, I don't think Cine is an NFL player. So yeah, they have guys, but I don't really like any of them besides Mukuba. At least we know Simmons or Blackmon are playable. We don't know anyone on the roster is right now, Mukuba included given he's a rookie.

I srongly disagree with Edge rusher. I think it's the weakest aspect of the team right now with the biggest questions.

Nolan - great second half of the season, invisible the first half. I like him a lot and have hopes he can be a really good player, but still needs to prove it. Has not yet put a full season yet together in the NFL. And don't forget, everyone was calling him a bust before November 2024. He was playing preseason games into the 4th quarter.

Hunt - I like him, but still super raw and inexperienced. When he was drafted he was said to be two years away. He was thrust into playing time immediately because BG got hurt. Going into a season with him being the starter is not ideal.

Ojulari - he's ok. Eagles got him at good value, but the player is just ok and has injury issues. He went for cheap for a reason.

Uche - he blows. He's not an NFL player in my estimation. Has been awful for a couple years now. Was traded to the Chiefs and benched and didn't even play in the playoffs. He's not good.

Huff - blows as we all saw in 2024. Not a fit here.

I don't consider that "loaded at Edge rusher depth" at all. I see it as a group that's very thin with very little certainties there. I don't just want "names" I want Za'Darius Smith because he's a better football player than Ojulari, Uche, Huff, and probably Hunt right now. I want to upgrade the talent on the Eagles. If Uche and Ojulari were signed by the Cowboys, nobody would be saying they were good signings. The Eagles are coming off a Super Bowl so everyone is riding high right now so naturally people are going to view every move through a rose colored lens, but I don't think either of those players are anything to write home about and it's asking a hell of a lot on Nolan and Hunt to carry the load given how inexperienced and unproven they are.

Thank you for your optimism. It is always refreshing.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Howie said they went boom boom boom. I think Sanders, Ez, Taylor maybe.

I'm gonna guess Taylor, Collins, Ezeiruaku, Sanders, JTT cluster or the Arroyo, Scourton, Oladejo cluster.

I think if it was an end of the 2nd round guy, they could have made that work. It doesn't cost a ton to move up a couple spots in the 2nd and if Howie really wants someone, as we've seen, he'll jump up a few spots just to ensure he gets his guy.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Simmons is coming off a year where he didn't play as well as 2023, so I don't think he'll get close to what he got last year. We'll see. I think McCollum stinks, I'm not big on Brown, I don't think Cine is an NFL player. So yeah, they have guys, but I don't really like any of them besides Mukuba. At least we know Simmons or Blackmon are playable. We don't know anyone on the roster is right now, Mukuba included given he's a rookie.

I srongly disagree with Edge rusher. I think it's the weakest aspect of the team right now with the biggest questions.

Nolan - great second half of the season, invisible the first half. I like him a lot and have hopes he can be a really good player, but still needs to prove it. Has not yet put a full season yet together in the NFL. And don't forget, everyone was calling him a bust before November 2024. He was playing preseason games into the 4th quarter.

Hunt - I like him, but still super raw and inexperienced. When he was drafted he was said to be two years away. He was thrust into playing time immediately because BG got hurt. Going into a season with him being the starter is not ideal.

Ojulari - he's ok. Eagles got him at good value, but the player is just ok and has injury issues. He went for cheap for a reason.

Uche - he blows. He's not an NFL player in my estimation. Has been awful for a couple years now. Was traded to the Chiefs and benched and didn't even play in the playoffs. He's not good.

Huff - blows as we all saw in 2024. Not a fit here.

I don't consider that "loaded at Edge rusher depth" at all. I see it as a group that's very thin with very little certainties there. I don't just want "names" I want Za'Darius Smith because he's a better football player than Ojulari, Uche, Huff, and probably Hunt right now. I want to upgrade the talent on the Eagles. If Uche and Ojulari were signed by the Cowboys, nobody would be saying they were good signings. The Eagles are coming off a Super Bowl so everyone is riding high right now so naturally people are going to view every move through a rose colored lens, but I don't think either of those players are anything to write home about and it's asking a hell of a lot on Nolan and Hunt to carry the load given how inexperienced and unproven they are.

If Simmons or any other safety wants to sign a one year deal for the league minimum and compete for a roster spot, by all means. I don't think it's a need though and I wouldn't be paying anyone 4-5 million with guaranteed money and a guaranteed roster spot. I'd be surprised if Simmons/Williams/Blackmon signed under those terms but I could be wrong.

I couldn't disagree more about edge rusher and you seem to be going out of your way to be negative.

Smith - Did you ever stop and think that maybe the reason he didn't do anything the first half and was an absolute beast in the second half and playoffs is because he was a young guy in his second season and with the injury to BG the Eagles were forced to play him. What happened when they were forced to play him, he balled out. This is why at some point you have to give opportunities to young talented players who you invest high picks in him. If you aren't 100% confident that Smith is the real deal after his second half and playoffs than I don't know what to tell you.

Ojulari - You are WAY underselling Ojulari. Yes injuries are a concern which I mentioned, but when healthy (which is what I said) he is proven to be at the very least a 3rd edge rusher in a rotation with the potential to be a starter. This is a guy who has 22 sacks in 46 career games and is a former 2nd round pick who hasn't even turned 25 yet. To think his best days are ahead of him in this league isn't a big stretch, and if nothing else he's a pass rushing specialist who has thus far produced at an 8.13 sacks per 17 games level.

Hunt - Eye test, he exceeded expectations for how much of a project he was and where he was at by seasons end. He had a significant role in the playoffs and SB and looked good. That completely changed the outlook and expectation for him going into year two and rightfully so. He is still new to the position and another off-season to get bigger, stronger, and more acclimated to the position should only help. Again, at some point you have to play your young talented players you've drafted especially when you have so many guys on the team making huge money. In the case of Hunt, he has shown on the field that he deserves a much bigger role.

Saying Uche and Huff "blow" is extreme. While it wouldn't be wise to count on them, the idea that one of them could be a serviceable 4th edge rusher and pitch in 5 or 6 sacks as a pass rushing specialist isn't a crazy idea. Huff had 10 sacks in 2023 and Uche had 11.5 in 2022 so it's possible. You know how many sacks Zadarius Smith had in 2023, 5.5, and last year was only slightly better at 9. It's funny how you are over hyping him so much and downplaying all of our young talent. But hey, he's a name.

You also conveniently didn't mention Jihaad Campbell who for all we know is going to be a full time edge rusher and should at least be used in certain packages as a pure edge rusher. They also drafted the kid from VT in the 6th round who is a long shot but is just another option.

Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, Campbell, Uche, Huff, Powell-Ryland, etc.........I don't think they are loaded with proven talent at the position, but you and others keep talking about depth and from a depth perspective they have a ton of options at edge rusher. Four of those players just happen to be young talented ascending players who were high draft picks. Again, you literally went out of your way to choose the most negative argument you could come up with each of these players and your take on Nolan Smith was laughably pessimistic and bad. It doesn't take a football expert to watch his second half and playoffs and realize that he is the real deal and is a potential star player in this league, or that Hunt is ahead of schedule and looks like he could be ready for a much larger role in year two. If you or others can't get excited about a young hungry group of edge rushers like Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, and Campbell at least sprinkled in I don't know what to tell you. If Zadarius Smith wants to sign for the league minimum by all means, but it's not a need and I'm not wasting real money on a 33 year old like him whose best days are likely behind him.

The Eagles are trying to build a team who can be a legit SB contender for the next 5 or 6 years, and "going all in" by signing past their prime guys in their mid 30's or holding onto veteran players too long is what bad organizations do and usually results in some down years. Thankfully Howie learned from this after 2018 and is building a team the right way.

Now, if you want to tell me that TE is a major concern and that they should be doing everything in their power to resolve the Goedert situation or add someone better than Bryant and Granson if they don't I will be right there with you. We are loaded with young talent at edger rusher though and the Mukuba pick takes Safety from being a major need to possibly not a need at all. I will just never for the life of me understand why so many fans get enamored with names like Justin Simmons and Zadarius Smith who are in their mid 30's and past their prime and would prefer to spend legit money on them as opposed to letting young talent that the team invested high picks into get a chance to play.

7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Thank you for your optimism. It is always refreshing.

Right..........Dude went out of his way to come up with the most negative take he could come up with all of the young talent we have at edge rusher to the point where it felt like he was trolling. Imagine watching Nolan Smith's second half and especially his playoffs and not being sold on him, then clamoring for the team to sign a 33 year old Zadarius FN Smith.

3 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I think the Eagles/Howie made the best of a really bad hand in this draft. Screw all the talk of depth...you think a player with Milton Williams' measurables (And while he did not put it all together, he was far from a slouch in college)...goes in round 3 of this draft? He probably sneaks into round 1. You think a Kelee Ringo from UGA goes in round 4?

It was a crap draft AND the Eagles were (joyously) saddled with the #32 pick. So, no criticism here, but we all do need to re-align our expectations. We aren't going to look back on this as some fantastic draft class 10 years from now. Just not happening. The reasonable expectation here is one really good starter and a couple long term backups who make it into the lineup as replacement level starters with some projects that don't work out. If we get that, then Howie made the best of it this year. Any less is a disappointment and any more is a resounding success and surprise.

With that said...

1. Campbell. Here's our exciting pick. The downside here is utilization. I am confident that we were, in fact, OK (and then some) at off ball LB. We'd have been fine with Dean and fine with Trot Jr. in the meantime. I'll be disappointed in the value if he's just a good off ball LB who is a younger, healthier, rookie deal replacement for Nakobe Dean, who was already a young player in the fold. But that's a pretty solid floor for a player who could be so much more than that for our defense. I really want to see him do some damage as an edge. That's where the special upside comes in.

2. Mukuba. Here's the replacement level starter. I see him as the next in line of the post Dawk era serviceable but not-that-good safety draft picks...Nate Allen, Kvon Wallace, CJ Gaddis, Earl Wolff...all sort of centerfield types, decent but unspectacular athletes...similar and different in their own way. I do like that his fluidity is more in line with a CB than safety and that instincts are more strength than weakness...so maybe they get lucky. But I suspect he's the kind of guy who will hang for a while as a backup and then just quietly get upgraded after he gets a shot in the lineup.

4. Ty Robinson. I bet he'll be popular here. I feel like the floor is a popular, effective rotational DT...and the ceiling is an OK starting DT that the Eagles upgrade after a season or two of starting. But he's going to bolster that rotation quickly.

5. Mcwilliams. Here's your rare mid/late round Howie need pick. He has minimal upside. Older player with solid refinement. They needed CB depth, they drafted CB depth. Nothing wrong with that in round 5. He'll be a better, more viable and athletic version of Jobe/Ricks/etc.

5. Mondon. Would be more excited about this guy if we weren't suddenly flush with off ball LBs. This is a BPA selection with starter upside.

6. Kendall. Another need-ish pick that is off-type for Stoutland. Low upside, high polish...need depth, draft depth. Nothing wrong with that in round 6.

6. Mccord. QB factory. I'm sure they'd love to trade Mckee in the next year or 2 and groom Mccord for that role.

6/6: Hinton / Williams. Give the people what they want. The two draft picks everyone was waiting for. If the Eagles really thought either of these guys would be that special, they wouldn't have waited this long. But the same can be said for Mailata. They are a long way off, but everyone will have fun waiting for their progress under Stoutland. Would be amazing if their progress could eliminate the need to burn a 1 on an OT in the next 2 years. (Interestingly, even with Mailata, we burned a 1 on Dillard while he was developing).

6. Powell-Ryland. Probably headed straight for the PS with the sheer numbers we have at edge. No way he's in the top 5 of them.

Nothing inspiring...inspiring wasn't possible. But they made the most of it.

Problem is comparing this draft to the last few, he wasn't going to land Carter or Mitchell/DeJean. Have to lower expectations.

1. Campbell is an ILB, Baun was an edge rusher who moved to ILB and became a dominant defensive player. In this scheme, an ILB who can stop the run, blitz the A gap, slide outside and rush off the edge, and most importantly is an asset in coverage is invaluable. Campbell may not play until the bye week (probably be very conservative until they're sure he's 100%) but paired with Baun you'd have 2 LBs who never come off the field. At 6-3 235, he'd have to add at least ten lbs to be an edge rusher, and why would you risk his best attribute, his explosive burst to the ball. Add in DeJean at NCB, and the Eagles should make it hard to run for real yardage on passing downs against the 4-2-5 (2nd and 9 you'll give 3 yards without hesitation).

2. Mukuba is a good fit for this scheme, where an ultra-talented safety would be wasted, because they play so much 2 safety deep. They need someone who won't make mistakes and can tackle in space. His slot CB experience also helps when matched against 4/5 wide formations where he might have to cover a WR man to man.

3. Robinson is a great athlete on paper, has been productive in college, but as an older player has limited upside. But he's a good fit for the 3-4 DE role in the base defense. Remains to be seen how much strength he can add, and how that athleticism translates to pass rush either as a DT or on the edge. Could be a solid backup, could be much more.

4. McWilliams is the backup NCB, at a minimum he needs to fit the 6 DB package, at best good enough he can play some NCB and allow DeJean to move around

5. Mondon, size, strength and durability will determine his future. Right now he's a nickel LB, to start he has to show he can stop the run and handle traffic (get off blocks). But if Trotter starts, I can see him coming in on passing downs until Campbell is ready.

6. Kendall, very good athlete, good size, but 31" arms will limit him at guard. Though a year in the weight room and hard coaching could turn him into a solid backup at all three interior spots.

7. McCord, we'll see, couldn't win out at a higher level of college FB, so he's a long way from potentially replacing McKee. Unless there's a big market for McKee I'd expect Howie to extend him, a good game or two in relief doesn't mean other teams will trade for/pay him starting QB money.

8. Hinton/Williams. I think Hinton was drafted as a swing OT. Williams has more upside, but probably a 2 year Stoutland U projectd.

9. Powell-Ryland is a wild card, struggles against the run, but won't be asked to do that here, 15-20 snaps a game on obvious passing downs at best. Has a shot, bunch of bodies but no obvious winner after Huff.

2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I was a big fan of Revel, maybe too big given he lasted to the 3rd.

I know you know this, but it is all about injury risk devaluation by the others. Who knows if you are right or the others are right. Time will tell.

2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

I read the Halaby article. The obvious tells were that Campbell and Mondon were BPA value picks. I think it’s clear they had the other OTs higher but took a flyer on 2 guys with some traits. I don’t those 2 were the primary targets.

Where was that article? I’d like to read it.

2 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Yeah, I figured if Revel couldn’t go 100% this season then you have the current dynamic but a good competition lined-up with Ringo next year.

The question was whether there was a chance of Sydney Jones redux.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

At this point that is an unknown IMO. A lot will happen between now and the Week One game. It is going to be a very interesting training camp.

My post you responded to was to create player scorecards, not predict outcomes. However, I did share some speculation in doing so.

A lot can happen, but what other options exist on the roster as of right now. 2 very raw rookies and who else? I don't know who else is an option at the moment.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The question was whether there was a chance of Sydney Jones redux.

I think Sydney had a worse injury, wasn’t as physically gifted and was less of a scheme fit - but to your point, yes.

45 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Yep I think they wanted the guys that went in a run in the 2nd but it just couldn’t happen. Looks like they didn’t have the exact OTs in the spot they’d prefer early either. I do think they liked the guys they drafted and they were on their board just hoped for more value in the 2 and 3 spots

Part of the problem was that the trade up had to be more than 20 picks and the cost to do that was too high.

If we assume the Eagles will be picking at or near pick 32 each year, the way to fix that problem is to acquire a substantial stash of next year picks from teams higher in the selection order. Howie is doing that masterfully. I expect he will enter each year with more and more picks by consistently "paying/playing it forward.”

I've got a stupid idea.

Trade with Cleveland for Shedeur Sanders.

Send them Bryce Huff or Dallas Goedert

Send them Tanner McKee or Kyle McCord

Send them Nakobe Dean

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Part of the problem was that the trade up had to be more than 20 picks and the cost to do that was too high.

If we assume the Eagles will be picking at or near pick 32 each year, the way to fix that problem is to acquire a substantial stash of next year picks from teams higher in the selection order. Howie is doing that masterfully. I expect he will enter each year with more and more picks by consistently "paying/playing it forward.”

Yeah they can move up more next year with all their capital. I'm sure they will look to. The other alternative is to trade out of rd 1 and then you can upscale rds 2 and 3 essentially.. But the Eagles got amazing value in rd 1 which is better than all of that. I'm convinced Campbell will be a stud. Much moreso than any of the guys from pick 15 on in the draft

Eagles inviting a lot of WRs to camp. Those camps really are more for WRs and DBs

30 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I will definitely be monitoring some of my guys who went in range of the Eagles in the 2nd and 3rd for the next few years and lament it for years if they go on to be studs and Mukuba and Robinson don't. Really wanted guys like Shemar Turner, Green(though I get why they passed), Josaiah Stewart, Jack Sawyer, etc.

But then again I really wanted Beebee last year and they got Hunt and it worked out pretty well.

I’m with you on Josaiah Stewart, but wasn’t at all enamored with Turner, Green, and Sawyer. Sawyer was a low ceiling, high floor, really hard worker. I see that as not a formula for success at the NFL level the way it was at the college level.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

A lot can happen, but what other options exist on the roster as of right now. 2 very raw rookies and who else? I don't know who else is an option at the moment.

Lamm and Pryor are both options now. Options with significant questions, but options nonetheless.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Yeah they can move up more next year with all their capital. I'm sure they will look to. The other alternative is to trade out of rd 1 and then you can upscale rds 2 and 3 essentially.. But the Eagles got amazing value in rd 1 which is better than all of that. I'm convinced Campbell will be a stud. Much moreso than any of the guys from pick 15 on in the draft

You and I are in complete sync. So glad Howie got Campbell.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

If Simmons or any other safety wants to sign a one year deal for the league minimum and compete for a roster spot, by all means. I don't think it's a need though and I wouldn't be paying anyone 4-5 million with guaranteed money and a guaranteed roster spot. I'd be surprised if Simmons/Williams/Blackmon signed under those terms but I could be wrong.

I couldn't disagree more about edge rusher and you seem to be going out of your way to be negative.

Smith - Did you ever stop and think that maybe the reason he didn't do anything the first half and was an absolute beast in the second half and playoffs is because he was a young guy in his second season and with the injury to BG the Eagles were forced to play him. What happened when they were forced to play him, he balled out. This is why at some point you have to give opportunities to young talented players who you invest high picks in him. If you aren't 100% confident that Smith is the real deal after his second half and playoffs than I don't know what to tell you.

Ojulari - You are WAY underselling Ojulari. Yes injuries are a concern which I mentioned, but when healthy (which is what I said) he is proven to be at the very least a 3rd edge rusher in a rotation with the potential to be a starter. This is a guy who has 22 sacks in 46 career games and is a former 2nd round pick who hasn't even turned 25 yet. To think his best days are ahead of him in this league isn't a big stretch, and if nothing else he's a pass rushing specialist who has thus far produced at an 8.13 sacks per 17 games level.

Hunt - Eye test, he exceeded expectations for how much of a project he was and where he was at by seasons end. He had a significant role in the playoffs and SB and looked good. That completely changed the outlook and expectation for him going into year two and rightfully so. He is still new to the position and another off-season to get bigger, stronger, and more acclimated to the position should only help. Again, at some point you have to play your young talented players you've drafted especially when you have so many guys on the team making huge money. In the case of Hunt, he has shown on the field that he deserves a much bigger role.

Saying Uche and Huff "blow" is extreme. While it wouldn't be wise to count on them, the idea that one of them could be a serviceable 4th edge rusher and pitch in 5 or 6 sacks as a pass rushing specialist isn't a crazy idea. Huff had 10 sacks in 2023 and Uche had 11.5 in 2022 so it's possible. You know how many sacks Zadarius Smith had in 2023, 5.5, and last year was only slightly better at 9. It's funny how you are over hyping him so much and downplaying all of our young talent. But hey, he's a name.

You also conveniently didn't mention Jihaad Campbell who for all we know is going to be a full time edge rusher and should at least be used in certain packages as a pure edge rusher. They also drafted the kid from VT in the 6th round who is a long shot but is just another option.

Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, Campbell, Uche, Huff, Powell-Ryland, etc.........I don't think they are loaded with proven talent at the position, but you and others keep talking about depth and from a depth perspective they have a ton of options at edge rusher. Four of those players just happen to be young talented ascending players who were high draft picks. Again, you literally went out of your way to choose the most negative argument you could come up with each of these players and your take on Nolan Smith was laughably pessimistic and bad. It doesn't take a football expert to watch his second half and playoffs and realize that he is the real deal and is a potential star player in this league, or that Hunt is ahead of schedule and looks like he could be ready for a much larger role in year two. If you or others can't get excited about a young hungry group of edge rushers like Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, and Campbell at least sprinkled in I don't know what to tell you. If Zadarius Smith wants to sign for the league minimum by all means, but it's not a need and I'm not wasting real money on a 33 year old like him whose best days are likely behind him.

The Eagles are trying to build a team who can be a legit SB contender for the next 5 or 6 years, and "going all in" by signing past their prime guys in their mid 30's or holding onto veteran players too long is what bad organizations do and usually results in some down years. Thankfully Howie learned from this after 2018 and is building a team the right way.

I'm not going out of my way to be negative , the league agrees with me. Look at what they got paid. Players the NFL thinks are quality at that position don't get paid 4m and 2m respectively. Maybe the league will be wrong, but don't act like I'm just making these criticisms up. It's what the teams around the league thinks of these guys. I'm just calling it like I see it. I don't think Ojulari is anything special. I think he's ok. I said he's a solid guy, but he has been injury prone. Btw people here are ok letting a stud in Goedert go because he's injury prone, but with Ojulari we are supposed to not be concerned about his injury history? Can't have it both ways. It's a concern. He can't stay healthy. And Uche and Huff both couldn't get on the field for their teams in the playoffs. That's not being negative, that's the Eagles and Chiefs telling you what they think of these players. Is it impossible Uche could have 5 sacks here? No, nothing is impossible. But why would I expect that after how he's played in recent years and in 2024? There would be no basis for it other than blind optimism. Huff may not blow, but he does in this system. We all saw it. The defense got better overnight when he stopped playing. He's a liability.

And like I said I like Nolan a lot. But it's just a reality that he's unproven. I have hope he can build off his 2024 season and be a dominant pass rusher, but we don't know it. It's a small sample. Hunt, same thing, though to a much greater extent because he's rawer, played less, and accomplished less. I have hopes for him too, but still unproven. This isn't about being positive or negative, it's about wanting your team to mitigate risk by bolstering the talent on the roster.

I left out Campbell because we have no idea if he'll play Edge. If he does, reassess.

I don't think it's a very good group. At least not in terms of proven talent. It has some upside if Nolan and Hunt achieve the high end of potential outcomes. But I can go around the league and take many Edge groups over the Eagles. Honestly, the best thing the group has going for it, is the Eagles IDL which will make their lives easier.

Impressive numbers fwiw

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I’m with you on Josaiah Stewart, but wasn’t at all enamored with Turner, Green, and Sawyer. Sawyer was a low ceiling, high floor, really hard worker. I see that as not a formula for success at the NFL level the way it was at the college level.

I think he would've fit Fangio's system well. Sets the edge, tough, gritty, strong, and always had a knack for making big plays in big spots. He was like BG in that regard.

17 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

I've got a stupid idea.

Trade with Cleveland for Shedeur Sanders.

Send them Bryce Huff or Dallas Goedert

Send them Tanner McKee or Kyle McCord

Send them Nakobe Dean

I’d be happy to send them Huff for the honor of cutting Shedeur.