1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I'm going to keep beating this dead horse, but the skill position depth is scary. The Eagles are lucky to have arguably 2 top-10 WR, the best RB in the NFL and when healthy a top 10 TE. Behind them, they have nothing, absolutely nothing. I fully expect the next two drafts to be focused on building top end depth at the skill positions.

I like Dotson as the primary backup at WR, but he’s gone after this year so definitely need a 3rd or 4th rounder there plus maybe a veteran on a cheap 1 or 2 year deal.

The RB depth is what really worries me. What the hell happens when Barkley inevitably gets injured? Our entire offense is run based. Barkley isn’t going to begin with. We’ve got to get someone with starting potential behind him.

Obviously we need a TE as well.

Agreed strongly with your take that our skill depth is awful.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

The Tight Ends in this particular Draft that fit your description were few and far between.

I suspect Howie had come to grips with that when he signed Bryant and Granson. Do you think either of them fits your developmental approach?

We'll find out. I just don't see how they can keep investing big money at TE while investing big money at RB.

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

I think I heard Matt Rhule gives certain players single digits like a badge of honor.

He did that at Temple as well, which is why Haason Reddick ended up with #7.

If they plan to truly use Campbell at primarily off ball LB in the long-term then the pick truly is very un Eagle like. Either they shifted their philosophies or Fangio played a huge role in it or both. There were a lot of Edge guys available at that spot. For them to go LB for the first time since 1979 they must have been absolutely gaga over Campbell. Or not as high on the Edge guys as other teams.

Still, I love the player, just feels like uncharted territory with this team. LB in round 1 and not only that but passing on positions you usually seek out like a shark looking for blood.

1 hour ago, just relax said:

The problem is, they have too many really good players.

Truer words have not been spoken…I’m not sure how many people realize this

1 hour ago, Know Life said:

Andrew Van Ginkel sounds less like a linebacker and more like the guy who critiques wines in a cardigan on YouTube.

Just saying—this comment crushed it on Facebook.

22 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they plan to truly use Campbell at primarily off ball LB in the long-term then the pick truly is very un Eagle like. Either they shifted their philosophies or Fangio played a huge role in it or both. There were a lot of Edge guys available at that spot. For them to go LB for the first time since 1979 they must have been absolutely gaga over Campbell. Or not as high on the Edge guys as other teams.

Still, I love the player, just feels like uncharted territory with this team. LB in round 1 and not only that but passing on positions you usually seek out like a shark looking for blood.

I think having an off ball LB that was a candidate for DPOY made them rethink the value of that position.

23 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they plan to truly use Campbell at primarily off ball LB in the long-term then the pick truly is very un Eagle like. Either they shifted their philosophies or Fangio played a huge role in it or both. There were a lot of Edge guys available at that spot. For them to go LB for the first time since 1979 they must have been absolutely gaga over Campbell. Or not as high on the Edge guys as other teams.

Still, I love the player, just feels like uncharted territory with this team. LB in round 1 and not only that but passing on positions you usually seek out like a shark looking for blood.

What if he gets half dozen sacks by blitzing, and has the range to cover and mitigate scrambling QBs, and is an asset against the run, and confuses presnap reads with sim pressures, and can replicate a skillset that only Baun has if he gets dinged… Campbell offers a ton of versatility.

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Hey i hated that LJ smith pick for the same reason as you. During that draft i was pretty the adamant that they made a mistake by not taking witten over LJ Smith. That said I’m guessing the same vision the eagles had for what LJ smith could be if he panned out was similar to what they had for fannin.

Yup, I had zero interest in Fannin, maybe LJ smith Jaded me .🤷‍♂️

35 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they plan to truly use Campbell at primarily off ball LB in the long-term then the pick truly is very un Eagle like. Either they shifted their philosophies or Fangio played a huge role in it or both. There were a lot of Edge guys available at that spot. For them to go LB for the first time since 1979 they must have been absolutely gaga over Campbell. Or not as high on the Edge guys as other teams.

Still, I love the player, just feels like uncharted territory with this team. LB in round 1 and not only that but passing on positions you usually seek out like a shark looking for blood.

Maybe Howie finally realized its better to draft the top rated LB instead of the 10-12 rated DL that doesnt even have a first round grade on him.

9 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, I had zero interest in Fannin, maybe LJ smith Jaded me .🤷‍♂️

Tbh i really didn’t love any prospects outside of Warren and Loveland. I didn’t think it was that great of a TE class

I know I’m late on this, but it was interesting reading Halaby’s thoughts on each draft pick…

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-2025-nfl-draft-alec-halaby-exclusive

52 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Yup, described Maxen Hook as playing the monster back position - not sure if that is another type of rover.

Very similar to the position McCollum played at Sam Houston. Looks like a SS a bit because a lot of time in the box but it is similar to Coop’s role, part nickel, part S, part LB. Kind of like they had Dawkins play his last year or so and what they morphed Jenkins role towards. Sort of like Graham played when he played as nickel safety. Typically folks refer to that as a strong safety but it really isn’t a traditional SS. That’s why the prognosticators had Hook listed as a strong S.

42 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

What if he gets half dozen sacks by blitzing, and has the range to cover and mitigate scrambling QBs, and is an asset against the run, and confuses presnap reads with sim pressures, and can replicate a skillset that only Baun has if he gets dinged… Campbell offers a ton of versatility.

I think they can do a bunch of different things with Baun and Campbell considering they can both play off ball and rush. They could disguise things really well. You never know who is going to rush and who is going to drop back. Gives Fangio a chance to be very creative.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

If they plan to truly use Campbell at primarily off ball LB in the long-term then the pick truly is very un Eagle like. Either they shifted their philosophies or Fangio played a huge role in it or both. There were a lot of Edge guys available at that spot. For them to go LB for the first time since 1979 they must have been absolutely gaga over Campbell. Or not as high on the Edge guys as other teams.

Still, I love the player, just feels like uncharted territory with this team. LB in round 1 and not only that but passing on positions you usually seek out like a shark looking for blood.

I think it's both. Not really sure why it took so long but he's definitely changed his philosophy. I also believe Vic has a huge say in the FO after that fantastic season

It's kind of funny that they got someone who has a defensive scheme that goes against Howie's philosophy. Vic and Baun were the ones to show Howie the light

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think they can do a bunch of different things with Baun and Campbell considering they can both play off ball and rush. They could disguise things really well. You never know who is going to rush and who is going to drop back. Gives Fangio a chance to be very creative.

Yup - hopefully he can get past these injuries and be real contributor this year like Dejean was last or at the very least get some more experience.

I guess I don’t really understand these folks who want to pencil in Trot Jr. He’s a nice story and maybe competent, but Campbell and even Mondon have so much more to offer the scheme.

5 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Leadership and connection are hard to find traits in football coaches. Sirianni has that. This from Zangaro's latest article...

Siri is like Hurts…he just wins. Sometimes you don’t know how, but he does it. Hell, he could and possibly should have been fired for the Jags game this last season, but after that near disaster everything clicked. Since the advent of the salary cap and FA, this past year the Eagles by the end of the year probably had the most stacked roster of the era. It speaks volumes to his leadership to keep that many egos together and focused on a singular goal. I think the dynasty era "Patriot way’ was a little excessive at time, but I’m hoping that more players take the Devonta route coming new contract time.

3 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Tyler Steen is the youngest starter on offense at 24 years old. All but three of the starters on defense are 24 or younger.

I would say next year they should start overhauling the offense. But where? TE obviously. OL of course. But will it be time to invest draft capital at WR? RB?

Jalen Carter 24

Jordan Davis 25

Moro Ojomo 23

Jalyx Hunt 24

Nolan Smith Jr. 24

Zack Baun 28

Jihaad Campbell 21

Quinyon Mitchell 23

Kelee Ringo 22

Cooper DeJean 22

Reed Blankenship 26

Andrew Mukuba 22

Jordan Mailata 28

Landon Dickerson 26

Cam Jurgens 25

Tyler Steen 24

Lane Johnson 34

Jalen Hurts 26

Saquon Barkley 28

Dallas Goedert 30

A.J. Brown 27

DeVonta Smith 26

Jahan Dotson 25

You're overhauling the offensive line? Besides RT where you can invest a high pick and if we didn't sift out a RG I'm not sure what there is to overhaul. The receivers are in their prime so there's nothing to do there, Dotson will be gone so you can invest a day 2 pick there, but that may be a bit rich depending on other needs and the board and then definitely TE. But we still may need a DE, DT, outside CB, possibly even Safety.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh i really didn’t love any prospects outside of Warren and Loveland. I didn’t think it was that great of a TE class

Certainly no one I’d say is definitely better than Barnes who actually won the Award for best TE in college one year. Not saying that makes him good but those prospects aren’t really better on paper today

27 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think it's both. Not really sure why it took so long but he's definitely changed his philosophy. I also believe Vic has a huge say in the FO after that fantastic season

It's kind of funny that they got someone who has a defensive scheme that goes against Howie's philosophy. Vic and Baun were the ones to show Howie the light

I think the NFL is evolving to where teams relentlessly attack average to subpar LBs, especially in the passing game. They are the most efficient passes in the game, and teams have been playing more two safety shells, leaving those LBs even more exposed to space. Baun somehow became a top-three zone cover backer. Truly the stuff of miracles.

There just aren’t many plus LBs in the game. You have Warners and Smiths (and Baun) and then varying degrees of average to JAG types. Howie thought he could identify cheap options and scrape by with the JAGs that could he elevated by the expensive and highly invested supporting cast. He basically did the same thing last year, and his bet on Nakobe worked. Devin White was an abject failure and is barely in the league anymore. We know how Baun turned out. When you have an elite player, you simply have to keep them, especially since Vic asks so much from them. I think seeing Baun and knowing he’s basically here on a two-year deal got Howie thinking about how he needs to have another ready to go. And if he develops even quicker than two years, wow, we might have our Willis and Bowman.

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Maybe Howie finally realized its better to draft the top rated LB instead of the 10-12 rated DL that doesnt even have a first round grade on him.

After a decade+ of basically hoping LB won’t hurt our D, it’s refreshing that the aim is to actually weaponize the position.

This seems like a cherry on top situation like RB last year, where a combination of a lot of good decisions builds to something very unexpected and hopefully great.

2 hours ago, TEW said:

I like Dotson as the primary backup at WR, but he’s gone after this year so definitely need a 3rd or 4th rounder there plus maybe a veteran on a cheap 1 or 2 year deal.

The RB depth is what really worries me. What the hell happens when Barkley inevitably gets injured? Our entire offense is run based. Barkley isn’t going to begin with. We’ve got to get someone with starting potential behind him.

Obviously we need a TE as well.

Agreed strongly with your take that our skill depth is awful.

I always argued that it's a recipe for collapse to build the offense around a RB. I said it when we signed Barkley. Then we won a SB.

I would argue that Dillon and Shipley are outstanding RB depth. I think both have starting potential. The problem is that Barkley is irreplaceable. If he goes down, the offense changes. We could have Derrick Henry and Bijan Robinson as our #2 and #3 RBs and the offense would have to change if Barkley went down. Once Barkley either gets injured or ages out, we are going to start throwing more again. That's the backup plan.

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Not sure why there is so much speculation on this when Howie had an uncharacteristically specific and candid answer to the question. He's going to have the opportunity to demonstrate the fit, comfort, and aptitude at both spots. They drafted him with both in mind.