1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh i really didn’t love any prospects outside of Warren and Loveland. I didn’t think it was that great of a TE class

I liked Mason Taylor as well, but yeah not the greatest class

Tired of the ‘grades’ already. Mostly positive but some Mukaba value bashing. At this point none of it matters until they start practicing and playing

3 hours ago, just relax said:

The Eagles have become victims of their own success. Except for Huff I would argue that they're not overpaying anybody. The problem is, they have too many really good players.

Very true and very beautiful. Bad contracts are part of the price of doing business (and being aggressive, and of trying to keep good players). We've had them in the past, we'll have them in the future. But it's remarkable that the team has one bad contract.

We always say the Eagles never let good players walk. And that's generally true. This offseason was the first time it has ever happened. The roster was so stacked it was a mathematical impossibility to keep it together.

27 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

After a decade+ of basically hoping LB won’t hurt our D, it’s refreshing that the aim is to actually weaponize the position.

This seems like a cherry on top situation like RB last year, where a combination of a lot of good decisions builds to something very unexpected and hopefully great.

Yup I mean they totally lucked out with Baun, not even Vic could have envisioned what Baun became.

Before Baun the last dominant LB they had was Trotter and Rhodes apparently didnt like him much then JJ cane in and built a D that funnelled everything to him not to mention he was a 2nd RD pick

Its great to see Howie and Co. Have such a high grade on a LB and when he falls they actually draft him

Just now, pgcd3 said:

Tired of the ‘grades’ already. Mostly positive but some Mukaba value bashing. At this point none of it matters until they start practicing and playing

The Eagles have entered the rarified air where no one is going to feel particularly comfortable criticizing there draft class at this point, not that there is much to criticize.

Mukuba value bashing is totally fair. Just feels like his upside is league average starting FS. I do like the more fluid, instincty, center field types...which he is. But I also think we have two young safeties on the roster who are very unpopular with the fans and media...but are far more explosive, athletic, and may be more well liked than the coaches than we all think. So we'll see what happens there.

2 hours ago, TEW said:

I like Dotson as the primary backup at WR, but he’s gone after this year so definitely need a 3rd or 4th rounder there plus maybe a veteran on a cheap 1 or 2 year deal.

The RB depth is what really worries me. What the hell happens when Barkley inevitably gets injured? Our entire offense is run based. Barkley isn’t going to begin with. We’ve got to get someone with starting potential behind him.

Obviously we need a TE as well.

Agreed strongly with your take that our skill depth is awful.

Howard, Clement, Sanders, Swift, Scott, and Gainwell all looked pretty good behind our line. Unless you think we have to have a Barkley clone backing up Barkley, I'm guessing you would at least expect his backup to be a lesser player. So with a good run-blocking O-line, all you really need is a competent back that understands what he's supposed to do. Even if Barkley was gone for most of the year, we'd still most likely be a top 5 rushing offense. Our QB alone averages over 600 rushing yards and over 10 TDs per season. Both Sanders and Swift were ProBowlers here and average at best everywhere else. We drafted Shipley a year ago to be that new young guy and he flashed a couple times last year while playing with nothing but backup offensive linemen against the other teams' starting defenses. It does little good to have several young RBs at the same time, playing on rookie contracts in a backup role. Once that contract is up, they will leave for a better opportunity --- and even if that opportunity is here at that time, we would have to be the team signing them to a bigger deal. Every year capable RBs come and go in free agency all over the league. This year, we brought in Dillon --- not to be a starter, but to provide experienced depth.

I'll be honest ... I really wasn't that impressed with the RB class in this draft. It seemed like 90% of the ones drafted were 5'8" - 5'9" and just around 200lbs. As much as I liked Sproles and Scott, they were merely "role" players and not feature backs. Neither cost us a draft pick either FWIW.

Besides Barkley, Shipley, and Dillon, we will also have BVS playing FB and we'll have to see who stands out in preseason with what's left. We may poach someone off another team, for all we know. I'm just not worried about depth at RB, myself. With our QB and using RB by committee, we'd still be a top rushing team. Even if all kinds of bad things happen, we have a ton of picks in 2026 we could use before the trade deadline if we have to. But if you're worried about losing Barkley, Hurts, Goedert, Brown and Smith all at the same time, then I think it may not be as realistic to expect to compete with the top teams at that point.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Very similar to the position McCollum played at Sam Houston. Looks like a SS a bit because a lot of time in the box but it is similar to Coop’s role, part nickel, part S, part LB. Kind of like they had Dawkins play his last year or so and what they morphed Jenkins role towards. Sort of like Graham played when he played as nickel safety. Typically folks refer to that as a strong safety but it really isn’t a traditional SS. That’s why the prognosticators had Hook listed as a strong S.

BYU in their 3-3-5 days called it the Cat Back, which I think is the same as rover/monster back. Bronco mendanhall was the coach of BYU and before that the D coordinator at New Mexico under Rocky long where they had a guy named Brian Urlacher who played the " Lobo Back," position.

That was my first recollection of that position.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The Eagles have entered the rarified air where no one is going to feel particularly comfortable criticizing there draft class at this point, not that there is much to criticize.

Mukuba value bashing is totally fair. Just feels like his upside is league average starting FS. I do like the more fluid, instincty, center field types...which he is. But I also think we have two young safeties on the roster who are very unpopular with the fans and media...but are far more explosive, athletic, and may be more well liked than the coaches than we all think. So we'll see what happens there.

Right, the position is by no means locked down. Brown could win the starting job. Or they could let Blankenship walk next offseason and go with Mukuba + Brown.

RIP to this legend of a name

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

I loved that Cameron Williams pick. He’s young and if developed right (stoutland is the guy to do it) i think he can eventually be a good starter. Frankly he should’ve went back collected a fat NIL check then came out a year later and maybe gone higher.

It’s funny reading that article because I said on draft day when they selected Kendall the outside the box idea is if Tyler strewn, green and even Keegan don’t do well at guard that you could move Kendall into the starting center spot if you believe he’s ready to play this year and give you competency at center. Then move Jurgens back to guard for the rest of year and solidify your line. It is definitely unlikely and outside the box idea but if the guys playing right guard all fail it is a fallback plan.

35 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not sure why there is so much speculation on this when Howie had an uncharacteristically specific and candid answer to the question. He's going to have the opportunity to demonstrate the fit, comfort, and aptitude at both spots. They drafted him with both in mind.

Nope

Yall just cant accept they dont see him as an edge

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

If they plan to truly use Campbell at primarily off ball LB in the long-term then the pick truly is very un Eagle like. Either they shifted their philosophies or Fangio played a huge role in it or both. There were a lot of Edge guys available at that spot. For them to go LB for the first time since 1979 they must have been absolutely gaga over Campbell. Or not as high on the Edge guys as other teams.

Still, I love the player, just feels like uncharted territory with this team. LB in round 1 and not only that but passing on positions you usually seek out like a shark looking for blood.

Maybe he’s 2020 Devin White with actual LB skills, maybe he’s Parsons lite, maybe he’s Van Ginkel on steroids, maybe he’s Zack Baun. The idea that he could be any of those is the main appeal, but they’re not picking not willing to give up a 1st and 2 3rds (comp to move up to 22) if they didn’t think he could be an impact pass rusher .

16 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nope

Yall just cant accept they dont see him as an edge

Neither can Howie I guess.

Phillies' Defense SUCKS!

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I think they can do a bunch of different things with Baun and Campbell considering they can both play off ball and rush. They could disguise things really well. You never know who is going to rush and who is going to drop back. Gives Fangio a chance to be very creative.

Even more important than being creative is being hard to predict.

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Neither can Howie I guess.

Its ok to abandon old, outdated concepts

Took me all of last season to start to understand Fangios scheme and what he wants. Its a big paradigm shift from the 4-3 ideas we held for so long

Yup. That tracks with this team.

2 misplays in the top of the 9th turns into trailing going into the bottom of the 9th, despite a 3 run lead going in.

3 hours ago, Know Life said:

Just saying—this comment crushed it on Facebook.

Some of the comments I’ve been getting. 😂

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Not sure why there is so much speculation on this when Howie had an uncharacteristically specific and candid answer to the question. He's going to have the opportunity to demonstrate the fit, comfort, and aptitude at both spots. They drafted him with both in mind.

I’m sure Howie talked heavily with Fangio in advance who was smiling ear to ear with pick. Now it’s all in Vic’s hands how he gets used

That's a win they don't deserve.

47 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nope

Yall just cant accept they dont see him as an edge

I agree with Toast. In Fangio’s light box, five deep scheme, full time off ball LBs like Baun and Campbell are the glue that makes the scheme work as a cohesive unit.

George Zimmerman … Dr. Z … agrees as well.

And... the pitcher stepped on Bryson Stott's hand as he was going for the plate.

18 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its ok to abandon old, outdated concepts

Took me all of last season to start to understand Fangios scheme and what he wants. Its a big paradigm shift from the 4-3 ideas we held for so long

Big men are able to see the error of their ways. 😱🫣🫢

32 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree with Toast. In Fangio’s light box, five deep scheme, full time off ball LBs like Baun and Campbell are the glue that makes the scheme work as a cohesive

Lets leave george out of it…

But the concept is sound. Use the LBs to disrupt the popular underneath quick passing game. Let the safties play the deep half. Almost dare the offense to run the ball