7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

For Mike it is. Nothing will change that.

Correct and I don't see how people can justify it without lying to themselves

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Ole Miss is $50k a year out-of-state. He's coming home to enroll at community college.

that's a good one

1 hour ago, paco said:

Nah.

Albert Breer has exactly the correct take on this. Sanders didn't get drafted in the first two rounds because of performance and the tape; he's simply not a first round prospect. His slide through Rounds 3-4 were due to the complete lack of preparation and attention he gave to the draft process -- Combine, team interviews, etc. Sanders refused to take meetings with certain teams, apparently only gave attention to the teams drafting 1-7, and the report that he took a personal FaceTime call during one meeting with an NFL coach and STAYED on the FaceTime call throughout the meeting. That stuff got around to other teams. The process is a job interview -- the most important interview these prospects will ever have. If you're not putting your best foot forward during this process, you're not worth the hassle.

There were reportedly only 3 out of 32 teams that had a first round grade on Sanders; if those teams already have a starting QB in place he's simply not going to come off the board. Ward, Shough, and Dart are all clearly better prospects with higher upside. Once Dillon Gabriel came off the board it became clear Sanders would continue to slide because teams simply aren't going to draft a developmental QB prospect who will walk into camp with his own entourage, etc.

I love, love that they exercised Davis’ option.

We all know his upside and draft status. We are all frustrated that his career has been up and down, not quite living up to either.

His career is at a crossroads. We need him to be a central part of the defense this year.

Exercising that option is a vote of confidence. It sends a great message to Davis and is sends a reassuring message to, well, me.

If he has a great year, for one, we don’t have to worry about starting from scratch in the offseason. Secondly, he’s going to have a far friendlier stance with the FO in renegotiation after this act of confidence and good faith.

It’s a signal that the best is yet to come from a player we traded up for in round 1. Rather than a signal that he’s out the door and our 2026 round 1 pick is getting burned on a DT.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not entirely. They are out $100k because Jeff Ulbrich didn't secure personal information. Granted his son shouldn't have done what he did with it, but at the same time, if Jeff takes care to keep it secure, its a moot point.

Funny thing is it wasn't even his son that did it. His friend did. I'm guessing the son probably had something to do with getting the number but they are out $100k because his son was dumb enough to be on video next to the guy who did it and then posted it for 15 mins of fame.

20 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

TE

Well... goodbye Dallas. l

22 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I REALLY hope it's much more of the former and basically NONE of the latter. We can't afford $13M for one season for a guy to be a 'good influence' on a player. That in essence increases the price of that first player AND locks up a roster spot. So, I REALLY hope its much more about his role and maybe 1% about his UGA affiliation.

Oh yeah, no doubt it is 90% about his role. Look back at '22 and what happened once he got hurt and that was his rookie year and he's much better now. We need a run stuffer or two who don't play a ton of snaps but are really effective when they are in the game.

37 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

More on Latu. Note the different height and weight

39 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

International player exemption may be used on him.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

More on Latu. Note the different height and weight

Wonder what his actual size is because those two tweets are over a 30 pound difference.

Also wonder what exactly they wpuld even be trying him out at. Fullback?

I know we have been focused on the draft and contracts, but IMO success in 2025 primarily comes down to the relationship between Hurts and Patullo. Our passing game was up and down all last season. I agree some was due to a conservative approach. But a lot of the disfunction came from push/pull between what Moore and Hurts wanted the offense to look like. Ever since Steichen has left the passing offense has be mediocre. With all the talent on that side of the ball, it needs to be better.

15 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Oh yeah, no doubt it is 90% about his role. Look back at '22 and what happened once he got hurt and that was his rookie year and he's much better now. We need a run stuffer or two who don't play a ton of snaps but are really effective when they are in the game.

He IS the base defense, that is, Davis at NT allows Fangio to play his safeties back b/c Davis eats two blocks, so offense always outnumbered.

All he has to do as a pass rusher is collapse the pocket and allow other defensive players pick up the sack.

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I know we have been focused on the draft and contracts, but IMO success in 2025 primarily comes down to the relationship between Hurts and Patullo. Our passing game was up and down all last season. I agree some was due to a conservative approach. But a lot of the disfunction came from push/pull between what Moore and Hurts wanted the offense to look like. Ever since Steichen has left the passing offense has be mediocre. With all the talent on that side of the ball, it needs to be better.

Agreed but I suspect it won't look much different since they hired inside. Plus Hurts has publicly said the offense is the way it is because it's how he wants it

Not only the passing game, but the pass rush. One of the things overlooked because of the dominant playoff run leading to a championship is the passing game wasn't great last season and the Eagles pass rush wasn't great last season. Both really took a leap come playoff time. Really, the NFC Championship and Super Bowl specifically. What the Eagles defense was great at was pursuit of the football, swarming to the ball, covering on the back end. It's why I've been so concerned about the DL. The Eagles pass rush already wasn't dominant for most of last season and they lost 2 of 4 of their best pass rushers last season in Milton and Sweat. And 3 of 5 if you include BG. But yes, the pass offense has to be better and the coaching staff needs to be better there. If Patullo and Loeffler don't get it done, there's no doubt in my mind Steichen will be back here in 2026.

23 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Nah.

Albert Breer has exactly the correct take on this. Sanders didn't get drafted in the first two rounds because of performance and the tape; he's simply not a first round prospect. His slide through Rounds 3-4 were due to the complete lack of preparation and attention he gave to the draft process -- Combine, team interviews, etc. Sanders refused to take meetings with certain teams, apparently only gave attention to the teams drafting 1-7, and the report that he took a personal FaceTime call during one meeting with an NFL coach and STAYED on the FaceTime call throughout the meeting. That stuff got around to other teams. The process is a job interview -- the most important interview these prospects will ever have. If you're not putting your best foot forward during this process, you're not worth the hassle.

There were reportedly only 3 out of 32 teams that had a first round grade on Sanders; if those teams already have a starting QB in place he's simply not going to come off the board. Ward, Shough, and Dart are all clearly better prospects with higher upside. Once Dillon Gabriel came off the board it became clear Sanders would continue to slide because teams simply aren't going to draft a developmental QB prospect who will walk into camp with his own entourage, etc.

QB is also the position where character is the most important, he's the team leader, and the position requires diligence, resilience and perseverance (b/c you're going to fail on a frequent basis).

Hurts and Sanders are diametrically opposed, Hurts has become a top QB b/c of his character, is there anything Sanders did that would inspire confidence that he'll has what it takes to be a starting QB mentally?

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

He IS the base defense, that is, Davis at NT allows Fangio to play his safeties back b/c Davis eats two blocks, so offense always outnumbered.

All he has to do as a pass rusher is collapse the pocket and allow other defensive players pick up the sack.

Agreed, his role is vital in Fangio's scheme.

40 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I REALLY hope it's much more of the former and basically NONE of the latter. We can't afford $13M for one season for a guy to be a 'good influence' on a player. That in essence increases the price of that first player AND locks up a roster spot. So, I REALLY hope its much more about his role and maybe 1% about his UGA affiliation.

Jordan is a good player, not a star. Good players make good money in the NFL. This idea that he's getting paid to be a support DT for Carter is ridiculous. Minds that have too much time to believe their own thoughts based on connecting what they believe are related dots think stuff like this. Your hope is safe. He's being paid because he adds value, not because he subtracts value and is friends with an unstable, chaotic, untrustworthy star.

25 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I love, love that they exercised Davis’ option.

We all know his upside and draft status. We are all frustrated that his career has been up and down, not quite living up to either.

His career is at a crossroads. We need him to be a central part of the defense this year.

Exercising that option is a vote of confidence. It sends a great message to Davis and is sends a reassuring message to, well, me.

If he has a great year, for one, we don’t have to worry about starting from scratch in the offseason. Secondly, he’s going to have a far friendlier stance with the FO in renegotiation after this act of confidence and good faith.

It’s a signal that the best is yet to come from a player we traded up for in round 1. Rather than a signal that he’s out the door and our 2026 round 1 pick is getting burned on a DT.

He's entering year 4. I think its time to stop talking about his 'upside' and talk about his 'reality'. His reality is that he comes off the field way too much to warrant that pay check, IMO.

I was overjoyed when they drafted him. I saw the upside. Since draft day, I have never really seen him live up to that upside. He's a good run stuffer, dare I say even great run stuffer. But, he's extremely one dimensional. And I don't think it pays to overpay for that dimension. Overpaying for a one trick pony pass rusher makes some sense. Overpaying for a one trick pony run stuffer just doesn't seem like a wise financial decision. Howie knows the cap better than me, but it doesn't add up to me.

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

The reality of positional value. Saquon was getting 13m$ a year to set the nfl record for rushing yards in a regular season + postseason, while Bryce Huff was getting 17m$ a year to be inactive

Obviously, but I don’t really think that applies so much to Davis. A first down run stuffer isn’t a $13M a year player.

32 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Funny thing is it wasn't even his son that did it. His friend did. I'm guessing the son probably had something to do with getting the number but they are out $100k because his son was dumb enough to be on video next to the guy who did it and then posted it for 15 mins of fame.

Yup.

The post to social media really seals the stupidity level.

12 minutes ago, austinfan said:

He IS the base defense, that is, Davis at NT allows Fangio to play his safeties back b/c Davis eats two blocks, so offense always outnumbered.

All he has to do as a pass rusher is collapse the pocket and allow other defensive players pick up the sack.

Yes, a NT is needed. But do you have to pay $13M for someone to do that job for 25 percent of the snaps?

53 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

This narrative needs to stop. Budda Baker was small. Brian Branch was small and timed slow. Dax Hill was small. Those guys were all consensus top 2 round prospects, Mukuba was not.

Branch and Baker would have been round 1 players if they were bigger. FWIW Hill sucked at safety and is now a corner.

31 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Oh yeah, no doubt it is 90% about his role. Look back at '22 and what happened once he got hurt and that was his rookie year and he's much better now. We need a run stuffer or two who don't play a ton of snaps but are really effective when they are in the game.

What happened? They went out and brought in Linval Joseph for $2M. Half a season for $2M and Joseph was better than Davis was.

That sort of sets the baseline price around $4M or so for a full season... add a little extra for the increase in the cap over the years and we are looking at around $4.5M - $6M for a season. They are paying him more than double that. I consider it an overpay. Now, if he played any other role, like he was drafted to be able to do, in addition to his run stuffing role, then by all means, pay him more. But he really doesn't.

This was Schefter's call with 97.5 this morning, so I'm sure some will have heard it already. Interesting to me is he refers to the Eagles trade up attempt with the Chargers to #22 as "didn't get processed in time", which leads me to believe the deal was actually agreed on to move up to #22 -- just not fast enough.

Most of this discussion is actually just Jihaad Campbell related, with the Shedeur stuff to follow: