February 22Feb 22 9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:Partially because in the 2024 election, only one candidate was listed 50,000+ times in the Epstein files. That also happened to be the same candidate who campaigned on releasing the files right up until they won the election and then suddenly the files didn't exist and were a hoax.I agree 100% with what you said here. But I would also like to point out that neither side really wanted to release the files. It seems they used it for political advantages but when push came to shove both sides were all talk when it came to releasing the files and were ultimately just protecting themselves.
February 22Feb 22 9 hours ago, DBW said:There is only one side/party who is defending their cult leader and their party’s involvement.I would disagree with this statement. I vote republican, and I want to see all those involved prosecuted and defend no one, especially Trump.
February 22Feb 22 11 hours ago, DrPhilly said:The answer to your question is that CVON is divided just like the country and every topic ends up with some level of bickering between "two sides". Having said that, there is a clear difference between those who are anti Trump in this thread vs. those that are pro Trump. The anti Trump people agree 100% with what you write above and want everyone investigated/prosecuted be they on the right or left WHILE the pro Trump people only want to talk about the lefties in the mix. There may be an exception or two but that's the main gist.I vote republican and would love to see all those involved prosecuted. I don't defend anyone who is listed in those files. It's shameful that all Americans cannot put differences aside and unite over this instead of still bickering about useless political parties.
February 22Feb 22 Author 18 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:I vote republican and would love to see all those involved prosecuted. I don't defend anyone who is listed in those files. It's shameful that all Americans cannot put differences aside and unite over this instead of still bickering about useless political parties.There are many previous Repubs and Never Trumpers in here. They share your opinion.
February 22Feb 22 21 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:I would disagree with this statement. I vote republican, and I want to see all those involved prosecuted and defend no one, especially Trump.The Republican party and the Trumplikin party arent the same. Not even close. He highjacked the Republican party, killed it, and conservatism is almost dead.
February 22Feb 22 25 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:I vote republican and would love to see all those involved prosecuted. I don't defend anyone who is listed in those files. It's shameful that all Americans cannot put differences aside and unite over this instead of still bickering about useless political parties.Regular people know it's both sides and we want them all to face the consequences regardless of their political partyMaga does not feel that way
February 22Feb 22 1 hour ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:neither side really wanted to release the filesIt's been pointed out multiple times now that they were sealed until recently and wasn't put to vote during Biden's term. As much as we may be used to it happening by now, Biden wasn't going to overstep and ignore judicial orders to score political points. All the evidence is circumstantial anyway, and there were investigations underway for the rest of Trump's crimes so the upside was limited. He was already getting accused of weaponizing the DOJ to go after Trump as it is.
February 22Feb 22 36 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:It's been pointed out multiple times now that they were sealed until recently and wasn't put to vote during Biden's term. As much as we may be used to it happening by now, Biden wasn't going to overstep and ignore judicial orders to score political points. All the evidence is circumstantial anyway, and there were investigations underway for the rest of Trump's crimes so the upside was limited. He was already getting accused of weaponizing the DOJ to go after Trump as it is.If Biden's office wanted to put them out, they would've put them out. You can choose to look at it one sided and think that there is a "good side" in this if you so choose. But the truth is neither side can be trusted and both sides are trying to protect themselves and each other in fear of if one person is exposed then they may all become exposed.
February 22Feb 22 6 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:If Biden's office wanted to put them out, they would've put them out. You can choose to look at it one sided and think that there is a "good side" in this if you so choose. But the truth is neither side can be trusted and both sides are trying to protect themselves and each other in fear of if one person is exposed then they may all become exposed."But what about Biden!"
February 22Feb 22 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:"But what about Biden!"I'm not even against Biden or democrats. I'm just making the point, that red or blue it doesn't matter. It's both sides and its disturbing. Political parties have created division long enough. I think it's time that Americans say enough is enough and actually have some unity in the matter.
February 22Feb 22 52 minutes ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:I think it's time that Americans say enough is enough and actually have some unity in the matter.I agree, but unfortunately it's only getting worse, not better, for obvious reasons. What should happen and what will happen are miles apart.
February 22Feb 22 accusations about being a pedophile would sink any Democratic candidate. I think that's a key difference here.
February 22Feb 22 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:accusations about being a pedophile would sink any Democratic candidate. I think that's a key difference here.Bill did ok for himself. Hillary skanked them up.
February 22Feb 22 3 hours ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:If Biden's office wanted to put them out, they would've put them out. You can choose to look at it one sided and think that there is a "good side" in this if you so choose. But the truth is neither side can be trusted and both sides are trying to protect themselves and each other in fear of if one person is exposed then they may all become exposed.For as much as the Biden admin was a joke, they had a reason not to release them as the files were all part of an ongoing case against Maxwell, who was in the appeals process during Biden's term.Plus, let's face it, if they had all been released MAGA would have said they were all fake and that Trump didn't do anything wrong.
February 22Feb 22 3 hours ago, Appalachian_Eagle said:If Biden's office wanted to put them out, they would've put them out. You can choose to look at it one sided and think that there is a "good side" in this if you so choose. But the truth is neither side can be trusted and both sides are trying to protect themselves and each other in fear of if one person is exposed then they may all become exposed.Maxwell’s appeal wasn’t denied until September 2024. Releasing the files could have resulted in her 2021 convictions being overturned.
February 22Feb 22 Yahoo NewsGhislaine Maxwell fights release of more Epstein document...Lawyers for imprisoned British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell are fighting the requested release of 90,000 pages related to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell, saying a law used to force the
February 22Feb 22 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:Trump’s FBI…That sounds like the work of Hilary Rodham Clinton
February 22Feb 22 15 hours ago, vikas83 said:Maxwell’s appeal wasn’t denied until September 2024. Releasing the files could have resulted in her 2021 convictions being overturned.How many times do they need to be told the same F'ing thing hahahahahahaha...at this point it has to be willful ignorance
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