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1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I give it a month before cryhard does a 180 once the new talking points come down and he claims he fell for the media spin and leftist BS articles.

Absolutely. The one universal truth of MAGA is they'll protect themselves above all others, including pedophile victims. Their willingness to endlessly shame themselves, feel ZERO internal pressure to do what they know to be morally right, and talk out of both sides of their mouths is, in effect, the built in self-healing feature of MAGA.

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"The Epstein Files: Phase 1" roll

These idiots constantly cosplay like they are in a war or something.

12 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Again, he deserves it

I appreciate you fair and balance. But keep in mind that so much of these "files" was made under the Obama/Biden/Clinton cartel. This a delicate situaion and it gonna take some time and patients and it important to not RUSH judgement. More details coming and you need to relax and wait for the big picture. And really lots of files are "top secret" because it protect american warfighters and spies internationlly. So if they keep the files secret maybe it is to keep us SAFE, and that's what we need more than a list of people who attend a party with Epstein MANY years ago. WAIT AND SEE

In the end, it won’t matter. His cult followers will claim to be disappointed by it and feign outrage for a few weeks, and then they’ll be back to swallowing all the propoganda as usual, overlooking this because of tax cuts or tariffs, talking about how he’s still better than the alternative yada yada yada…

53 minutes ago, Bear Grylls said:

I appreciate you fair and balance. But keep in mind that so much of these "files" was made under the Obama/Biden/Clinton cartel. This a delicate situaion and it gonna take some time and patients and it important to not RUSH judgement. More details coming and you need to relax and wait for the big picture. And really lots of files are "top secret" because it protect american warfighters and spies internationlly. So if they keep the files secret maybe it is to keep us SAFE, and that's what we need more than a list of people who attend a party with Epstein MANY years ago. WAIT AND SEE

Pam Bondi said case closed my guy. They released everything they had.

Lost the Russian asset as well

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

In the end, it won’t matter. His cult followers will claim to be disappointed by it and feign outrage for a few weeks, and then they’ll be back to swallowing all the propoganda as usual, overlooking this because of tax cuts or tariffs, talking about how he’s still better than the alternative yada yada yada…

I don't agree with all of this but he is right about it's the ideas not him. He has his 5th Ave supporters but many of us want them not stuff like this.

We know Trump was top client.

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1 hour ago, Bear Grylls said:

I appreciate you fair and balance. But keep in mind that so much of these "files" was made under the Obama/Biden/Clinton cartel. This a delicate situaion and it gonna take some time and patients and it important to not RUSH judgement. More details coming and you need to relax and wait for the big picture. And really lots of files are "top secret" because it protect american warfighters and spies internationlly. So if they keep the files secret maybe it is to keep us SAFE, and that's what we need more than a list of people who attend a party with Epstein MANY years ago. WAIT AND SEE

I'm not trying to be balanced. I am glad he is in but this is bad. Don't make it a thing with phase 1 binders and then say it's nothing. You may be right that it involves our intelligence agencies or a foreign one and it would be a major thing to come out, but so be it. Sometimes the cover up is worse. He ran on this and they made it a spectacle with the binders so they deserve criticism IMO.

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27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I don't agree with all of this but he is right about it's the ideas not him. He has his 5th Ave supporters but many of us want them not stuff like this.

Yeah except for the fact that we already went through this exact same thing in the first administration, and lo and behold he’s president again.

During his first term:

1) the deficit exploded,

2) the trade deficit exploded,

3) he ran on exposing the corrupt Clinton network, launched an investigation, and then the investigation concluded there was no wrong doing, etc…

4) and then finally ended his term in the most embarrassing of ways with what happened on January 6th.

And here we are again, with him as president. His supporters don’t care. They didn’t care then. They don’t care now.

Yeah, he isn't stepping down because there is nothing there.

Did these people seriously believe TRUMP was their champion to take on the establishment?

Education really has failed this nation.

If the square headed guy quits and fades into the shadows I'll be convinced Trump is in the files.

If he starts making a scene about releasing it then he either doesn't know who's in it or he does and can't understand why Trump is covering up for them.

41 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Did these people seriously believe TRUMP was their champion to take on the establishment?

Education really has failed this nation.

I will never understand how Trump of all people convinced almost the entirety of blue collar America, the hardest working and most down to earth demographic, that he was chosen by God to root out systemic corruption in government.

It's like none of them had any clue at all about who the guy was before he opened his mouth about politics and started bald faced lying about Obama.

37 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

I will never understand how Trump of all people convinced almost the entirety of blue collar America, the hardest working and most down to earth demographic, that he was chosen by God to root out systemic corruption in government.

It's like none of them had any clue at all about who the guy was before he opened his mouth about politics and started bald faced lying about Obama.

He is taking a big L this one and he deserves to be called out the way he is. He is probably shocked but many of us were with him because of ideas like releasing the list. Huge mistake and betrayal.

I'm still happy he won over Harris but the Dems who are in disarray just got a massive gift for the midterms.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

He is taking a big L this one and he deserves to be called out the way he is. He is probably shocked but many of us were with him because of ideas like releasing the list. Huge mistake and betrayal.

I'm still happy he won over Harris but the Dems who are in disarray just got a massive gift for the midterms.

The whole "Dems in disarray" narrative is tired and lazy. They're doing the only smart thing right now which is getting out of Trump's way so he can do their job for them.

They lost an election to Trump and some people still can't process why. Let's not pretend like it hasn't happened before. Democrats are just as fine as they've always been, just like Republicans when they lose.

4 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

The whole "Dems in disarray" narrative is tired and lazy. They're doing the only smart thing right now which is getting out of Trump's way so he can do their job for them.

They lost an election to Trump and some people still can't process why. Let's not pretend like it hasn't happened before. Democrats are just as fine as they've always been, just like Republicans when they lose.

Whatever makes you feel better. We agree Trump handed them a gift, though.

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

There goes his Stephen A.'s candidacy for democratic nominee.

29 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

He is taking a big L this one and he deserves to be called out the way he is. He is probably shocked but many of us were with him because of ideas like releasing the list. Huge mistake and betrayal.

I'm still happy he won over Harris but the Dems who are in disarray just got a massive gift for the midterms.

Did you genuinely believe he was ever going to release the full list?

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Did you genuinely believe he was ever going to release the full list?

I expected something more than nothing. If nothing else he made a huge mistake commenting on it with two posts vs letting it blow over, but that's him.

34 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Whatever makes you feel better. We agree Trump handed them a gift, though.

When Dems win back the House in a year and then the presidency in 4 years will you still be doing the whole Dems in disarray shtick or is this some advanced cope?

Just now, mayanh8 said:

When Dems win back the House in a year and then the presidency in 4 years will you still be doing the whole Dems in disarray shtick or is this some advanced cope?

I'm not wasting time debating this BS. If you want to believe they have their crap together go it.

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