4 hours ago, justwinbaby said:

When does the superbowl ring design usually come out?

The Exciting Whites said the ring ceremony will be June 6 IIRC.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

No one downplayed it. I don't know what you're talking about.

Well I know what I'm talking about, I searched back and saw someone specifically said, him coming back here was ridiculous.

15 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Someone offhandedly joked awhile back about the Eagles proposing that players jumping into the stands should be a penalty. Y’know, just to spite the Packers and their Lambeau Leap thing.

Frankly at this point I would be disappointed if this doesn’t happen.

I live for this type of pettiness. I’m all for it.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

He's a good cheerleader coach but what happens if the new OC sucks?

The same thing that happened in 2023: they fire him and find a new one.

22 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Someone offhandedly joked awhile back about the Eagles proposing that players jumping into the stands should be a penalty. Y’know, just to spite the Packers and their Lambeau Leap thing.

Frankly at this point I would be disappointed if this doesn’t happen.

Player safety. Spectator safety.

There may not have been any so far, but we should be proactive and prevent the inevitable ones.

Wonder how much they low balled Sirianni that the details still aren't known yet. Doesn't seem like his agent is eager to trot that information out to the reporters.

47 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Because the OC who is the playcaller is just a revolving door

So, are you saying you want a OC who doesn’t call plays or are you saying you don’t want an OC at all?

26 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Well I know what I'm talking about, I searched back and saw someone specifically said, him coming back here was ridiculous.

Me. I said I would be floored. Just picked myself up.

If Douglas had horrible talent evaluations while he was here, I'd doubt we'd have brought him back.

Im glad Douglas is here as a scout rather than any GM or GM type role. Even "Senior Scout" makes me nervous. But at least its not some deal where he is expected to teach Howie his system of scouting and help set draft boards.

Douglas sucks and I can not wait until he is fired or hired away again.

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Companies spend large amounts of money and time in identifying and cultivating leaders in their organizations. Leadership is a rarer quality that being a good salesperson, trader, analyst, or offensive coordinator. NFL history is littered with strong coordinators that flamed out when given the opportunity to be a head coach. The job is more than game planning and play calling. It's about getting a team of men to pursue a single goal, to understand and follow the path, and to support each other along the way. Nick is outstanding at that. Look at the videos the team puts out each week during the season. You hear Nick at meetings talk about toughness and work and details and connection. Then watch the post game conversations with the players - they use the exact same words. His messaging is still resonating with the players. They like his energy and aggressiveness. I'm glad he'll be around for a while longer.

He has done a good job coaching a highly talented team. He has had 2 of the most talented rosters this team has ever fielded. Still, it's not easy to win it all. It's not easy to get a team to the Super Bowl. He has done it twice.

13 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Wonder how much they low balled Sirianni that the details still aren't known yet. Doesn't seem like his agent is eager to trot that information out to the reporters.

Why would you think that's a possibility?

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im glad Douglas is here as a scout rather than any GM or GM type role. Even "Senior Scout" makes me nervous. But at least its not some deal where he is expected to teach Howie his system of scouting and help set draft boards.

Douglas sucks and I can not wait until he is fired or hired away again.

Do you still blame him for Barnett?

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Do you still blame him for Barnett?

I blame him for everything bad in the draft for the years he was here. All of it.

25 minutes ago, just relax said:

So, are you saying you want a OC who doesn’t call plays or are you saying you don’t want an OC at all?

I want the HC to call the plays

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Why would you think that's a possibility?

Because it's hours after the news broke and no details of the deal are out. Usually those details are front and center as part of the announcement or come out very soon after. And these are details given by the agent because that of course reflects on then as well and the job they have done as an agent. It's a low ball deal that Sirianni agreed to then it makes sense why the agent hasn't given out those contract details yet.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I blame him for everything bad in the draft for the years he was here. All of it.

Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2019	1	Andre Dillard	22	T	2024	0	0	1	12	69	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Washington St.
2019	2	Miles Sanders	53	RB	2024	0	1	4	34	84	0	0	0	0	0	923	4345	23	175	1244	4			Penn St.
2019	2	JJ Arcega-Whiteside	57	WR	2021	0	0	0	2	40	0	0	0	0	0			0	16	290	1			Stanford
2019	4	Shareef Miller	138	DE	2019	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Penn St.
2019	5	Clayton Thorson	167	QB		0	0	0																Northwestern
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2018	2	Dallas Goedert	49	TE	2024	0	0	7	35	93	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	349	4085	24			South Dakota St.
2018	4	Avonte Maddox	125	CB	2024	0	0	1	16	81	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	4	3.0	Pittsburgh
2018	4	Josh Sweat	130	DE	2024	0	1	4	33	104	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	1	43.0	Florida St.
2018	6	Matt Pryor	206	T	2024	0	0	2	18	92	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			TCU
2018	7	Jordan Mailata	233	T	2024	0	0	5	35	74	0	0	0	0	0			0			0
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2017	1	Derek Barnett	14	DE	2024	0	0	3	26	95	0	0	0	0	0			0			0		29.0	Tennessee
2017	2	Sidney Jones	43	CB	2023	0	0	2	12	60	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	4		Washington
2017	3	Rasul Douglas	99	CB	2024	0	0	3	27	120	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	19	2.0	West Virginia
2017	4	Mack Hollins	118	WR	2024	0	0	2	17	112	1	1	4	0	0	4	40	0	162	2069	15			North Carolina
2017	4	Donnel Pumphrey	132	RB		0	0	0																San Diego St.
2017	5	Shelton Gibson	166	WR	2019	0	0	0	0	20	0	0	0	0	0			0	3	59	0			West Virginia
2017	5	Nathan Gerry	184	S	2022	0	0	1	18	50	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	3	3.5	Nebraska
2017	6	Elijah Qualls	214	DT	2017	0	0	0	1	6	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Washington
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2016	1	Carson Wentz	2	QB	2024	0	1	6	60	98	2085	3327	22410	153	67	357	1418	11	2	11	0			North Dakota St.
2016	3	Isaac Seumalo	79	G	2024	0	1	6	35	111	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Oregon St.
2016	5	Wendell Smallwood	153	RB	2021	0	0	1	10	56	0	0	0	0	0	238	956	5	60	474	2			West Virginia
2016	5	Halapoulivaati Vaitai	164	T	2023	0	0	3	25	86	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			TCU
2016	6	Blake Countess	196	CB	2021	0	0	0	3	45	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	2	1.0	Auburn
2016	7	Jalen Mills	233	S	2024	0	0	6	31	115	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	8	1.5	LSU
2016	7	Alex McCalister	240	DE		0	0	0																Florida
2016	7	Joe Walker	251	ILB	2021	0	0	1	8	66	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Oregon

Well 2019 was terrible.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

I want the HC to call the plays

If I understand you correctly you’re saying that if the HC calls the plays we’ll have greater continuity and we won’t lose the play caller to another team. Is that right?

I don't think Joe Douglas had much to do with those bad drafts. Howie makes the final call. Also I think they'll hire someone else they lost two key guys. Also don't think their drafts with the Jets were that bad. The Jets have terrible ownership. They got Gardner, Wilson, Fashanu, Hall, etc. They just never had a QB and their ownership forced them to trade for Rodgers.

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

No one downplayed it. I don't know what you're talking about.

Wow i am shocked by that. But at least it's to a scouting position, not VP of player personnel like before. Maybe more to his strengths, I hope.

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

Well I know what I'm talking about, I searched back and saw someone specifically said, him coming back here was ridiculous.

Was it one person? If so is it statistically significant?

10 minutes ago, just relax said:

If I understand you correctly you’re saying that if the HC calls the plays we’ll have greater continuity and we won’t lose the play caller to another team. Is that right?

That is one of the positive aspects for that scenario

Douglas was hired after the draft in 2016, so he really only impacted 3 draft classes (2017-2019). 2017 and 2019 were terrible, and 2018 was a homerun.

15 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2019	1	Andre Dillard	22	T	2024	0	0	1	12	69	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Washington St.
2019	2	Miles Sanders	53	RB	2024	0	1	4	34	84	0	0	0	0	0	923	4345	23	175	1244	4			Penn St.
2019	2	JJ Arcega-Whiteside	57	WR	2021	0	0	0	2	40	0	0	0	0	0			0	16	290	1			Stanford
2019	4	Shareef Miller	138	DE	2019	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Penn St.
2019	5	Clayton Thorson	167	QB		0	0	0																Northwestern
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2018	2	Dallas Goedert	49	TE	2024	0	0	7	35	93	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	349	4085	24			South Dakota St.
2018	4	Avonte Maddox	125	CB	2024	0	0	1	16	81	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	4	3.0	Pittsburgh
2018	4	Josh Sweat	130	DE	2024	0	1	4	33	104	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	1	43.0	Florida St.
2018	6	Matt Pryor	206	T	2024	0	0	2	18	92	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			TCU
2018	7	Jordan Mailata	233	T	2024	0	0	5	35	74	0	0	0	0	0			0			0
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2017	1	Derek Barnett	14	DE	2024	0	0	3	26	95	0	0	0	0	0			0			0		29.0	Tennessee
2017	2	Sidney Jones	43	CB	2023	0	0	2	12	60	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	4		Washington
2017	3	Rasul Douglas	99	CB	2024	0	0	3	27	120	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	19	2.0	West Virginia
2017	4	Mack Hollins	118	WR	2024	0	0	2	17	112	1	1	4	0	0	4	40	0	162	2069	15			North Carolina
2017	4	Donnel Pumphrey	132	RB		0	0	0																San Diego St.
2017	5	Shelton Gibson	166	WR	2019	0	0	0	0	20	0	0	0	0	0			0	3	59	0			West Virginia
2017	5	Nathan Gerry	184	S	2022	0	0	1	18	50	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	3	3.5	Nebraska
2017	6	Elijah Qualls	214	DT	2017	0	0	0	1	6	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Washington
Year	Rnd	Player	Pick	Pos	To	AP1	PB	St	wAV	G	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Att	Yds	TD	Rec	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	College/Univ
2016	1	Carson Wentz	2	QB	2024	0	1	6	60	98	2085	3327	22410	153	67	357	1418	11	2	11	0			North Dakota St.
2016	3	Isaac Seumalo	79	G	2024	0	1	6	35	111	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Oregon St.
2016	5	Wendell Smallwood	153	RB	2021	0	0	1	10	56	0	0	0	0	0	238	956	5	60	474	2			West Virginia
2016	5	Halapoulivaati Vaitai	164	T	2023	0	0	3	25	86	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			TCU
2016	6	Blake Countess	196	CB	2021	0	0	0	3	45	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	2	1.0	Auburn
2016	7	Jalen Mills	233	S	2024	0	0	6	31	115	0	0	0	0	0			0			0	8	1.5	LSU
2016	7	Alex McCalister	240	DE		0	0	0																Florida
2016	7	Joe Walker	251	ILB	2021	0	0	1	8	66	0	0	0	0	0			0			0			Oregon

Well 2019 was terrible.

2019 was a bad draft year.

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

He's a good cheerleader coach but what happens if the new OC sucks?

Well they brought Joe Douglas back, maybe they can bring in 8 new offensive assistants and consultants like with Doug. 😂

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't think Joe Douglas had much to do with those bad drafts. Howie makes the final call. Also I think they'll hire someone else they lost two key guys. Also don't think their drafts with the Jets were that bad. The Jets have terrible ownership. They got Gardner, Wilson, Fashanu, Hall, etc. They just never had a QB and their ownership forced them to trade for Rodgers.

It’s documented that Woody’s teenage sons recommended rejecting a trade based on the player’s Madden rating.