12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

If that one cheap SOB on the Cowboys didn't injure him they would have won that SB. Same if Chad didn't go down on that last TD vs ATL or if the rookie TE could have held onto that ball in the SB when they were in FG range and they stood him up and stripped it. Post ACL he fell off a cliff.

Roy Williams right?

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Someone else can answer the technical part but i don’t remember reading that he’s ever played guard. So it’s entirely new position to learn. Then again the eagles are unlikely to need him to play there for at least a year so he’s going to get development for a year under stoutland. Hopefully we see the work in year 2

Did MB ever play there before last year?

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Did MB ever play there before last year?

I think asking a rookie unlike a veteran is different. Veteran has been in the league for a couple years where a rookie hasn’t and really doesn’t exactly know what to expect playing in the NFL yet. Then again they tried peters at guard and he wasn’t very good after being a tackle his entire career

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think asking a rookie unlike a veteran is different. Then again they tried peters at guard and he wasn’t very good after being a tackle his entire career

For sure. Having Johnson and Cam beside you with Stout coaching has to help, though. He's a monster. Steen did a good job last year, so I think he'll be solid. Maybe this kid could end up being a backup later in the season.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

For sure. Having Johnson and Cam beside you with Stout coaching has to help, though. He's a monster. Steen did a good job last year, so I think he'll be solid. Maybe this kid could end up being a backup later in the season.

There was a reason why he was the 28th overall prospect by espn heading into the ASU game. He fell all the way to the #6 wrong because he came back from his injury and didn’t look as good. I also think a lot of teams believe it’s gonna take them about a year of development so that you can trust him playing at the NFL level.

If steen and green fail, I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if the Eagles considered moving Jurgens back to guard and having Kendall start at center. I actually think Kendall could probably be a decent starter as a rookie at center. But I think that is a in case of emergency brake glass.

we already knew this but...

Patullo and Moron in the same pic.

We already knew this as well, but...

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

we already knew this but...

I still don't get it. His last game in college was on New Years Eve. How did he have Labrum surgery and still compete at the combine 7 weeks later? That's usually a 4-6 month recovery before you can do anything and you're in a sling for a few months.

McCord has begun his interceptionless streak

4 hours ago, NCiggles said:

McNabb made some bad mistakes which cost the Eagles in games. He also had worse than average receivers. I just don't think you could put Hurts on those teams and expect a different outcome.

I think you absolutely could. Hurts is clutch in big games and riases his level of play. NcNabb did not. Hurts is fully willing to utilize his legs while McNabb started to shun that aspect of his ability to try to prove some point. Hurts is also far more accurate than McNabb. McNabb had an issue of trying to throw every pass as hard as he cpuld which often led to the worm burners.

30 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

I still don't get it. His last game in college was on New Years Eve. How did he have Labrum surgery and still compete at the combine 7 weeks later? That's usually a 4-6 month recovery before you can do anything and you're in a sling for a few months.

Labrum surgery was in March. Combine was in February.

1 hour ago, paco said:

Na Brown says thank you

. So forgettable!

10 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Labrum surgery was in March. Combine was in February.

That's the ticket. Guess I've been expecting to see him more in a sling vs running around. Still amazed he was able to run and lift his arm like he was doing running down the tunnel after being drafted.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Interesting...

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Williams really intrigues me. Had he stayed and played another year, he could have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. The measurables are great.

Having his 5th year of eligibility be at Stoutland U versus UT is likely the best outcome for him as a professional... now they just have to figure out how they can afford to keep him on the roster to attend class each week.

1 hour ago, paco said:

Picking up Thrash as a FA after his stint in Washington only to trade him back to the R-words for a 5th that turned into Trent Cole will never not amuse me.

Well, at least the pick turned into something positive!

But, I am not convinced unless I see this as a transaction tree in chart format.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

The Chiefs have a few SB thanks to our growing pains. I'm not sure how an offensive coach didn't realize sooner in his career the importance of weapons, but he really did McNabb a disservice. Yeah, he got it right at the end with Jackson and Mac but what did that take a decade? Andy was as stubborn SOB. The thing I remember most about that Panthers NFCCG outside of McNabb getting hurt was driving the field running the ball and then passing the ball in the RZ. They could not stop the Eagles and I think we got a FG and it changed the entire flow of the game. Him pulling the tag back from Trott may have cost them a SB as well. I'm always going to wonder if him being on the field vs Tampa would have changed that game vs an old washed up guy.

He didn't learn it too fast in KC either. They had one season where not a single TD was scored by a WR. That's crazy.

10 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Watched this movie on Netflix last night about that nurse in New Jersey who was just killing patients in the ICU for fun. But anyway… on the cops… Nnamdi Asomougha. He actually is a decent actor

I watched that. Different kind of movie, well directed and Nnamdi performed better in that movie than he did at corner for us!

3 hours ago, pallidrone said:

And there is the crux; were the WRs bad, or did McNabb make them look bad? Or was it a combination of both?

I mean, McNabb did have a couple of years with Westbrook/McCoy, Jackson, Maclin, and Celek. Those are not bad weapons to have. Hurts would have made that work.

James Thrash, Freddie Mitchell and Todd Pinkston were unequivocally below average. He had one season with Jackson, Maclin, McCoy and Celek, 2009. He was not the same player he had been earlier in his career. He was feeling the pressure of the team drafting Kolb and signing Vick. He left the field with a lead in the NFC Championship game in 2008.

I can't argue that McNabb didn't choke. I just don't know if he would have been the same if he had a better supporting cast earlier in his career.

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