5 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I think he deserved a shot as starter here in 2015 after going 6-2 in 8 games the year prior but we traded him to QB Killer Jeff Fisher for Sam Bradford and his bad knees.

The Bradford experiment

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I could be wrong but didn't they make lifting a player up and tackling him down (essentially a suplex) illegal like 5 or so years ago? I think that was legal back when Dawk played

I thought he did it more than once and one was called a penalty but I could be wrong.

I also think he was high up on a poll taken in 2008 or so that ranked the dirtiest players in the league and it was voted on by his peers.

Again I’m not bashing the guy. Rodney Harrison, Lynch etc were also accused of stuff like that.

As Eagles fans we are little biased though and that’s ok. 😄

11 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I think he deserved a shot as starter here in 2015 after going 6-2 in 8 games the year prior but we traded him to QB Killer Jeff Fisher for Sam Bradford and his bad knees.

He was turning the ball over like crazy in those 8 games. Chip clearly wasn't a fan of that.

2 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

I thought he did it more than once and one was called a penalty but I could be wrong.

I also think he was high up on a poll taken in 2008 or so that ranked the dirtiest players in the league and it was voted on by his peers.

Again I’m not bashing the guy. Rodney Harrison, Lynch etc were also accused of stuff like that.

As Eagles fans we are little biased though and that’s ok. 😄

I'm just saying I think those hits were legal back then

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The only real thing I can say McNabb has on Hurts, is that McNabb had to work with absolute garbage around him. The Eagles didn't get serious about helping him until the T.O. thing blew up in our faces.

But even then, McNabb simply wasn't a big-game QB. The fact that Hurts had two of his best games in two of the biggest games in franchise history is enough to bump him over McNabb.

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sustained success. He's not far off, and he'll undoubtedly get signed to another contract extension soon. McNabb had 10+ years of sustained success as the Eagles franchise QB and, while I hate that he came up small in some big games, he helped (along with Andy) bring the franchise to a level of perennial contender that it hadn't seen before.

If the Eagles contend for the next 3 to 4 years I think most people will regard Hurts at the top of Eagles franchise QB list. If the Eagles repeat as Super Bowl champions this year I might revisit my position.

Eagles made the playoffs 6 times with McNabb as the starter (2000-2004, 2008-2009). He was 9-7 in the playoffs and was never named an All-Pro. Obviously never won thr Super Bowl and he had a really bad choke in the one Super Bowl he got to.

Hurts has been the starter for only 4 years, Eagles have made the playoffs every year with him as a starter. He's 6-3 in the playoffs with already two Super Bowl appearances and 1 Super Bowl win. He has been named 2nd team All Pro.

Jalen Hurts is already clearly the beat QB in franchise history and that gap is only going to grow wider with each additional season played.

Years later they'll say Hurts has had a pretty stacked offense and now defense in his career. Though he actually won a SB with it. Other QBs have had a stacked team and didn't go to the promised land

Great thing is the window is still open with this stacked team to win more rings

23 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Eagles made the playoffs 6 times with McNabb as the starter (2000-2004, 2008-2009). He was 9-7 in the playoffs and was never named an All-Pro. Obviously never won thr Super Bowl and he had a really bad choke in the one Super Bowl he got to.

Hurts has been the starter for only 4 years, Eagles have made the playoffs every year with him as a starter. He's 6-3 in the playoffs with already two Super Bowl appearances and 1 Super Bowl win. He has been named 2nd team All Pro.

Jalen Hurts is already clearly the beat QB in franchise history and that gap is only going to grow wider with each additional season played.

I agree with you that he's probably the best QB in franchise history already. However, I'd also like to see him play 2-3 more good seasons before crowning him. Sustained success is the hardest IMO.

13 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Dawkins squared up and leveled his opponents with a form you don’t really see much of anymore. To suggest Brian Dawkins didn’t play a clean game is bizarro world.

Yep, two of the most devastating hits he ever landed were in the playoffs against the Falcons (in different years, against Vick and Crumpler) and both were just about perfect in terms of hitting the "strike zone" as the rules define it today. Perfectly clean and legal then, perfectly clean and legal now.

4 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

Luvu is a dirty player - so its always interesting to note the NFL fussing about the health and safety of the shove, but more injuries were caused by Luvu last season (I believe) that the shove. But for some reason, seeing the QB of the best team in the league last year be out for a for a game to two on a dirty hit is ok, Let's call it Goodell Logic.

You can see Jordan Davis has lost weight by how much smaller his face looks, and his posture.

How about the safety from DET (Kirby?) that's chopping receivers out at the knees because that's legal... an unintended but foreseeable consequence given the small hit box the league allows above the waist.

30 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

How about the safety from DET (Kirby?) that's chopping receivers out at the knees because that's legal... an unintended but foreseeable consequence given the small hit box the league allows above the waist.

Kerby Joseph

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

What would he have to do to get there for you?

He is there for me, but I can see an argument for at least 10 years of production being one more desirable tick in the box.

2 hours ago, Utebird said:

I wouldnt consider a suplex clean...😉

Yes, a suplex was a clean and legal play back in the day. Not trying to be hard on you specifically but what the heck is wrong with people on here taking shots at Dawk? The guy started his career in the Vet and finished before the age of touch football began. Dirty players are that clown show who took a cheap shot at Wentz and pretty much ended his starting career. Dirty plays are Al-Shaair's hit on Lawrence.

49 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

How about the safety from DET (Kirby?) that's chopping receivers out at the knees because that's legal... an unintended but foreseeable consequence given the small hit box the league allows above the waist.

19 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Kerby Joseph

Who was voted to the AP All Pro 1st team in 2024 with 9 interceptions.

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Years later they'll say Hurts has had a pretty stacked offense and now defense in his career. Though he actually won a SB with it. Other QBs have had a stacked team and didn't go to the promised land

Great thing is the window is still open with this stacked team to win more rings

Jalen Hurts = Bob Griese?

100 days until the opener.

15 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

lol

Okay. Die on a Frankie Luvu hill. For whatever reason.

The Eagles have had their fair share of dirty players. Besides the ones I've already mentioned, no list should overlook Runyan, Suh, Romanowski, or Babin.

49 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yes, a suplex was a clean and legal play back in the day. Not trying to be hard on you specifically but what the heck is wrong with people on here taking shots at Dawk? The guy started his career in the Vet and finished before the age of touch football began. Dirty players are that clown show who took a cheap shot at Wentz and pretty much ended his starting career. Dirty plays are Al-Shaair's hit on Lawrence.

There are degrees of dirtiness. Dawk was never remotely as dirty as Suh, or Romanowski, or Waters. Those guys were criminals.

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Years later they'll say Hurts has had a pretty stacked offense and now defense in his career. Though he actually won a SB with it. Other QBs have had a stacked team and didn't go to the promised land

Great thing is the window is still open with this stacked team to win more rings

There's a long list of QBs who have had great teams and never made it to the Super Bowl, let alone won one. Dallas was stacked a few years ago and Dak couldn't make it out of the second round. Rivers had some great teams in San Diego and they could never break through. Rodgers never made it back to another Super Bowl with some great Packers teams. The argument for Hurts will be he never carried a team by himself, and I get that. It's why I still think Josh Allen is a better QB than he is. But Hurts has played his best football when it matters most in NFC Championship games and Super Bowls. And anyone who witnessed and lived through the McNabb era should be thankful that we have a QB who is capable of doing that. Someone who rises and elevates his play in crucial moments and games, not puke all over themselves (literally & metaphorically speaking).

Reddick holding out 2 months i to his new 1 year deal.

I’m good with waiting a little longer to crown Hurts as the Eagles GOAT QB. But he’s definitely on the precipice, another year or two of similar production, wins, and playoffs and it becomes undeniable.

If he leads us to a dynasty by winning a couple more SBs along with another SBMVP or two and your talking potential GOAT Eagle regardless of position.

11 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

There's a long list of QBs who have had great teams and never made it to the Super Bowl, let alone won one. Dallas was stacked a few years ago and Dak couldn't make it out of the second round. Rivers had some great teams in San Diego and they could never break through. Rodgers never made it back to another Super Bowl with some great Packers teams. The argument for Hurts will be he never carried a team by himself, and I get that. It's why I still think Josh Allen is a better QB than he is. But Hurts has played his best football when it matters most in NFC Championship games and Super Bowls. And anyone who witnessed and lived through the McNabb era should be thankful that we have a QB who is capable of doing that. Someone who rises and elevates his play in crucial moments and games, not puke all over themselves (literally & metaphorically speaking).

Agreed. Though I think some of Rodgers playoff failures were coaching but that's IMO

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Reddick holding out 2 months i to his new 1 year deal.

Is this guy OK? Makes no sense on his end.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Is this guy OK? Makes no sense on his end.

It’s voluntary. It’s not the best look though.

Maybe he is just shopping for some sconces.