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8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they kick him inside (eventually). After watching about three minutes of his highlight clips, that's where I thought he would probably be better.

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7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Having his 5th year of eligibility be at Stoutland U versus UT is likely the best outcome for him as a professional... now they just have to figure out how they can afford to keep him on the roster to attend class each week.

I was thinking about this recently. My hunch is that they're going to keep (at least) eleven offensive linemen this year. There are just too many viable backup candidates...young ones...to risk losing them on the waiver wire come late August.

My guess:

3 QBs, 3 RBS, 2 TEs, 11 OL, 4 WR = 23 OFFENSE.

17 DL/LB (it's too difficult now to differentiate OLB from DE so I'll just clump them as one enormous unit), 10 DB = 27 DEFENSE

1 K, 1P, 1 LS = 3 more to make 53.

And they'll hope to get their 3rd and 4th TE, 4th RB, and 5th and 6th WR to their practice squad.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup. Said the same thing during and after the draft. We have the luxury where he doesn’t have to play for a year or two if guys stay healthy. He has good size and measurables. Like you said if he would’ve went back to school, he’s unlikely falling to six round if he went back and got better. It’s more likely he goes in the top three rounds. Im sure stoutland is excited to see if he can mold him. He’s the guy on day 3 I’m most excited about. I think he can become a legit starter

Without being any less excited about Cameron Williams than you are (after all, he does have the right last name), I am just as much, or even more excited about Kyle McCord. The reasons for that are straightforward.

First, is the position leverage that comes with the QB position. If you had to choose between a Day 3 Tackle making it to starter (I'm looking at you Jordan Mailata) and a Day 3 QB making it to starter, which would you choose? 10 out of 10 times it would be the QB.

Second, McCord demonstrating starter chops makes Taylor McKee even more valuable ... and more than likely more valuable sooner. Regardless of what happens with McCord, I'm hoping that Nick and Howie see the wisdom in bringing McKee into a number of games this season. What we saw from him last year was a teaser, but also a small data set. Expanding that data set so that a QB hungry team can see him the same way that San Franciscco saw Jimmy Garroppolo would put Howiein the position to get at least a 2026 2nd Round pick for McKee.

8 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:


I still don't get it. His last game in college was on New Years Eve. How did he have Labrum surgery and still compete at the combine 7 weeks later? That's usually a 4-6 month recovery before you can do anything and you're in a sling for a few months.

I have seen several reports that have said he had the surgery right after the Combine.

Was he at the Alabama Pro Day?

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

The pad has #62 on it. 😄

7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Having his 5th year of eligibility be at Stoutland U versus UT is likely the best outcome for him as a professional... now they just have to figure out how they can afford to keep him on the roster to attend class each week.

If Ty Robinson is a legitimate FB based on the plays/snaps he took there while in Nebraska games, then using a full Roster spot on BVS becomes a luxury ... one that can be reallocated to keeping Williams on the 53.

I love getting students for Stoutland University to see how they develop.

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Not sure who 61 and 75 are but 96 may well be Gabe Hall. Height and number fit. (One of my five vets that I thought should go to rookie camp.

61 is Michael Dogbe DL from Temple. there are two 75s, one is Anthony Campbell DL from Miami and the other is Marcus Tate OL from Clemson. 96 is indeed Gabe Hall

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Zangaro confirms my second "vet” attendee at rookie camp but an interesting position spot:

When the first offensive line took their positions, here’s how they lined up:

LT: Myles Hinton
LG: Laekin Vakalahi
C: Drew Kendall
RG: Hollin Pierce
RT: Cameron Williams

Vakalahi can feel the hot breath of Carsen Patu (listed at 6'1" and 243 lbs as a LB) breathing down his neck as the International Exemption player on the Roster

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Wish we had draft intel. I’m curious who the Eagles would have taken if Campbell was taken before 31. And who they were trying to trade up for in round 2.

I’d guess TJ Sanders

1 hour ago, Texas Eagle said:

I’d guess TJ Sanders

He and a few other guys but there’s no word they were trying to trade up really. They’d have liked a few guys but they were never really an option

I think a guy like Dalevon Campbell can come in and steal Johnny Davis job

8 hours ago, Texas Eagle said:

I’d guess TJ Sanders

There a few I think, Sanders like you mention, Taylor, Turner, a few of those o-linemen. Pauline said we liked Wyatt Milum quite a bit and had him going to us in round 2. If that's true I'm actually happy that did not happen.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/video/

Watching the rookies speak...is it just me or do all of them come off as smart individuals that love the game? I hope it translates into being successful NFL'ers but I definitely came away impressed. Robinson wants to potentially be a doctor post NFL, Mondon talked about how when he learns, he takes notes....steps away for 20 minutes and then tries to re-write the notes without looking back, Kendall was impressive and Hinton was equally well spoken and impressive. They all seem to love football, want to learn and again, just came away impressed.

There will probably be a few roster tweaks after this camp. If I remember correctly they sometimes bring in a vet or two afterwards as well

9 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I was thinking about this recently. My hunch is that they're going to keep (at least) eleven offensive linemen this year. There are just too many viable backup candidates...young ones...to risk losing them on the waiver wire come late August.

My guess:

3 QBs, 3 RBS, 2 TEs, 11 OL, 4 WR = 23 OFFENSE.

17 DL/LB (it's too difficult now to differentiate OLB from DE so I'll just clump them as one enormous unit), 10 DB = 27 DEFENSE

1 K, 1P, 1 LS = 3 more to make 53.

And they'll hope to get their 3rd and 4th TE, 4th RB, and 5th and 6th WR to their practice squad.

Who is your PR/KR in that mix? That seems light on skill players tho I agree they'll use the PS a lot. That's a popular hack these days for borderline non-young players or guys you don't care that much if you'll lose

31 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Who is your PR/KR in that mix? That seems light on skill players tho I agree they'll use the PS a lot. That's a popular hack these days for borderline non-young players or guys you don't care that much if you'll lose

Britain Covey to the PS, or the new kid Moron who seems similarly adapted to the slotWR/RS role.

14 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Britain Covey to the PS, or the new kid Moron who seems similarly adapted to the slotWR/RS role.

Covey is not on the team and I get the sense the eagles are moving on having signed Avery, and signed Moron, with Jackson potentially in the mix. Also maybe the two UDFA RBs. They have options without signing Covey to a free agent contract.

Interesting note I saw on ESPN’s draft tracker on Cam Williams…

During a combine interview, Williams said he played this season with an injury that caused his heel to lock up and required surgery. He was already moving well for his size, so he might move even better when fully healthy. -- Steve Muench

10 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I was thinking about this recently. My hunch is that they're going to keep (at least) eleven offensive linemen this year. There are just too many viable backup candidates...young ones...to risk losing them on the waiver wire come late August.

My guess:

3 QBs, 3 RBS, 2 TEs, 11 OL, 4 WR = 23 OFFENSE.

17 DL/LB (it's too difficult now to differentiate OLB from DE so I'll just clump them as one enormous unit), 10 DB = 27 DEFENSE

1 K, 1P, 1 LS = 3 more to make 53.

And they'll hope to get their 3rd and 4th TE, 4th RB, and 5th and 6th WR to their practice squad.

That seems really light on offense at both WR and TE. BVS isn’t a LB anymore it appears so who is playing FB? Can Bryant do it? Who is the PR/KR? Williams seems to be the heavy favorite.

Howie is going to have to make some tough choices if he wants to carry a FB and is stuck with Bryce Huff wasting a roster spot.

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Interesting note I saw on ESPN’s draft tracker on Cam Williams…

During a combine interview, Williams said he played this season with an injury that caused his heel to lock up and required surgery. He was already moving well for his size, so he might move even better when fully healthy. -- Steve Muench

I think Cam Williams might be getting overhyped. Long shots are still long shots. If we're being honest Mailata was the great success story but Stoutland hasn't actually turned other guys who were UDFAs and picked in round 5 or later while he was coach into Pro Bowl caliber starters.

24 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Covey is not on the team and I get the sense the eagles are moving on having signed Avery, and signed Moron, with Jackson potentially in the mix. Also maybe the two UDFA RBs. They have options without signing Covey to a free agent contract.

I wouldn’t bring back Covey as FA as he’s too injury prone, but I would put him on the PS as a good locker room guy who can contribute at a fairly high level in his RS role for a few games.

I was just thinking about Covey yesterday. I was never a fan of using a roster spot on a PR only guy but a lot of beats and some in here countered that he was one of the best PR’s in the league. The fact the Eagles moved on quickly and no other team is even sniffing him, I wonder if his neck injury was much more severe than ever reported.

11 hours ago, mattwill said:

Without being any less excited about Cameron Williams than you are (after all, he does have the right last name), I am just as much, or even more excited about Kyle McCord. The reasons for that are straightforward.

First, is the position leverage that comes with the QB position. If you had to choose between a Day 3 Tackle making it to starter (I'm looking at you Jordan Mailata) and a Day 3 QB making it to starter, which would you choose? 10 out of 10 times it would be the QB.

Second, McCord demonstrating starter chops makes Taylor McKee even more valuable ... and more than likely more valuable sooner. Regardless of what happens with McCord, I'm hoping that Nick and Howie see the wisdom in bringing McKee into a number of games this season. What we saw from him last year was a teaser, but also a small data set. Expanding that data set so that a QB hungry team can see him the same way that San Franciscco saw Jimmy Garroppolo would put Howiein the position to get at least a 2026 2nd Round pick for McKee.

There’s no way for McCord to demonstrate starter chops unless he gets into live action in regular season NFL games, the way McKee has.

For that to happen anytime in 2025 wouldn’t bode well for the Eagles fortunes.

1 hour ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I was thinking about this recently. My hunch is that they're going to keep (at least) eleven offensive linemen this year. There are just too many viable backup candidates...young ones...to risk losing them on the waiver wire come late August.

My guess:

3 QBs, 3 RBS, 2 TEs, 11 OL, 4 WR = 23 OFFENSE.

17 DL/LB (it's too difficult now to differentiate OLB from DE so I'll just clump them as one enormous unit), 10 DB = 27 DEFENSE

1 K, 1P, 1 LS = 3 more to make 53.

And they'll hope to get their 3rd and 4th TE, 4th RB, and 5th and 6th WR to their practice squad.

Yeah, I was thinking about that. and figured that Howie was going to lean heavily on the new PS rules to fill out the roster and keep their fingers crossed for health at specific positions.

I think the team will do just about everything they can to keep all 3 OL draft picks on the roster... and Keegan from last year's group.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I was just thinking about Covey yesterday. I was never a fan of using a roster spot on a PR only guy but a lot of beats and some in here countered that he was one of the best PR’s in the league. The fact the Eagles moved on quickly and no other team is even sniffing him, I wonder if his neck injury was much more severe than ever reported.

Or, he was overvalued by folks around here. Ultimately, last year, we lost Covey, and we were just fine without a dedicated PR returner. And with the need to carry so many OL on the roster for the future pipeline, I hope they focus on duality as it pertains to the PR/KR positions. Having multiple guys that can do that as well as play another position means that they don't need to 'waste' a roster spot on a PR. Having a dedicated LS makes sense. Same with P and PK. But, there's no need for a 4th dedicated spot to ST like that, especially if he's not a guy like Devin Hester. Covey wasn't a guy that struck fear into the opposing team and was a threat to take it to the house any given kick.

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