20 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

So which veteran edge rusher will the Eagles sign before camp: Clowney, Smith, or Miller?

We should be looking at trade options for young veterans IMO. Who hasn't lived up to the hype or who is on a team that we know won't re-sign a player.

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

We should be looking at trade options for young veterans IMO. Who hasn't lived up to the hype or who is on a team that we know won't re-sign a player.

Josh Allen (JAX)?

Meant Travon Walker oops

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Josh Allen (JAX)?

He just signed a $150M extension last year

22 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, Uche, APR

Two starters, one depth, two big questions who may not deserve a roster spot. They need another.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He just signed a $150M extension last year

Ah well shucks

31 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

So help with the math here.

The original contract was for $51M, $34M of which was guaranteed.

The $15.7M signing bonus and $1.1M 2024 salary are already spent. They basically converted the $15.6M option bonus and 2025 salary and $1.2M 2025 salary into a $9M signing bonus plus $8M in 2025 salary.

So the Eagles are on the hook for $157.M + $1.1M + $9M = $25.9M at the end of the day. That would be cap hits of $4.4M, $4.9M, and 16.6M from 2024 thru 2026.

Howie sent 23% of the original cap obligation to the Niners in the trade.

Kwity Paye? Thought I heard his 5th year wasn’t picked up

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He just signed a $150M extension last year

Oops I got them mixed up I meant Travon Walker not Allen (long day). But I think his option may have been picked up?

3 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Kwity Paye? Thought I heard his 5th year wasn’t picked up

He's a non-exciting but gets it done kind of guy. Reminds me of BG in a lot of ways, not just the UM#55 reason. Nearly identical build and plays the run and pass equally. He would be a very under the radar guy to make a move on.

4 hours ago, Iggles25 said:

Looking forward to seeing APR earn that roster spot. Think he is a diamond in the rough fellas.

If the 25 draft class works out. The rest of the league is in trouble. With a bunch of young ascending players and a ton of draft picks in 26. Yeah buddy.

5 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

If the 25 draft class works out. The rest of the league is in trouble. With a bunch of young ascending players and a ton of draft picks in 26. Yeah buddy.

I don't know if I'm just drinking the Kool-Aid, but I've never been more optimistic about a draft class top to bottom than I am this class. I think there are at least 4 starters, maybe 6 in time in this class.

-Jihaad Campbell is a Pro Bowl level talent

-Andrew Mukuba has high end starting safety potential

-Ty Robinson was my draft crush and next to Jalen Carter, he's going to thrive. He might not technically start, but he's getting serious PT.

-Mac McWilliams is the player I'm most lukewarm on. I think he's a ST/backup nickel player.

-Smael Mondon could be one of the biggest steals of the draft. If his head is in the right place, he has all the athleticism in the world to be a playmaking LB.

-Drew Kendall is a starting OL in the NFL. Does he take the reigns at RG eventually?

-Kyle McCord is a fine backup QB and potential trade chip down the road.

-Myles Hinton and Cameron Williams are lumped together for me. Hinton has the bloodlines and massive size and Williams is raw. Both are perfect players for Stoutland to mold. Can they get a swing tackle and potential starter out of both?

-APR is a Trent Cole kind of player. He just produces.

McWilliams is the biggest question mark for me. I have a hard time cutting any of these guys right now. It's easy to see a role for every one of them.

43 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Two starters, one depth, two big questions who may not deserve a roster spot. They need another.

So what I hear you saying is add one, cut one. Is that right?

I don't get the folks who are saying anything negative with the trade of Huff. They are in no greater need of depth than before. Huff showed what he was last year... a giant ZERO. Not having to pay him all of his guaranteed money is a huge bonus, and getting anything in return is even better. They even have the added benefit of not needing to worry about the roster spot they would have likely needed to use on him. Nothing but good things in this deal.

They certainly could add another Edge, but that need is no greater now than it was before this trade. I have no less confidence in Uche and Ojulari than I had in Huff. In fact, I have have more... and for pennies on the dollar.

53 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Oops I got them mixed up I meant Travon Walker not Allen (long day). But I think his option may have been picked up?

Yea, he’s on year 4 but has the fully guaranteed 5th year that’s $15M

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I don't get the folks who are saying anything negative with the trade of Huff. They are in no greater need of depth than before. Huff showed what he was last year... a giant ZERO. Not having to pay him all of his guaranteed money is a huge bonus, and getting anything in return is even better. They even have the added benefit of not needing to worry about the roster spot they would have likely needed to use on him. Nothing but good things in this deal.

They certainly could add another Edge, but that need is no greater now than it was before this trade. I have no less confidence in Uche and Ojulari than I had in Huff. In fact, I have have more... and for pennies on the dollar.

I slightly disagree with your second paragraph. There was always a need there but I think the need is slightly more now that the roadblock of Huff is out of the way. I don’t think they were ever going to cut him so with him on the roster it kinda was what it was. But now that he’s gone and not taking up a roster spot, they are able to add someone better.

I have no idea if I framed that in a way that makes sense but it makes sense to me.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I slightly disagree with your second paragraph. There was always a need there but I think the need is slightly more now that the roadblock of Huff is out of the way. I don’t think they were ever going to cut him so with him on the roster it kinda was what it was. But now that he’s gone and not taking up a roster spot, they are able to add someone better.

I have no idea if I framed that in a way that makes sense but it makes sense to me.

Close enough. The way I see it, the situation at Edge is better than it was before today, because, as you say, the roadblock is out of the way. Adding another Edge was always a possibility, but couldn't really fit on the roster with Huff here. Now he's gone and there's a little more space. There's just no way to slice that this is a 'bad' move or puts the team in a bad situation. And the timing of it always was a post-June 1 deal, same as any move of Goedert would have had to be.

Today is a great day. Let us rejoice.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

So help with the math here.

The original contract was for $51M, $34M of which was guaranteed.

The $15.7M signing bonus and $1.1M 2024 salary are already spent. They basically converted the $15.6M option bonus and 2025 salary and $1.2M 2025 salary into a $9M signing bonus plus $8M in 2025 salary.

So the Eagles are on the hook for $157.M + $1.1M + $9M = $25.9M at the end of the day. That would be cap hits of $4.4M, $4.9M, and 16.6M from 2024 thru 2026.

Howie sent 23% of the original cap obligation to the Niners in the trade.

Howie, uh, finds a way.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

You lost me. How did he get duped?

Don't feed the troll. His life is so pathetic that he'll try anything to get attention.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, Uche, APR

Uche and APR is hardly proven depth.

1 minute ago, eaglestime34 said:

Uche and APR is hardly proven depth.

At this time of year the concept of "proven” depth ends up in direct conflict with "roster succession” in the Not For Long league.

I hear your point, but given the realities of the Salary Cap almost all NFL teams are facing the same situation as the Eagles are, or worse.

I personally am more than comfortable with the plan in place … to let all five Edges prove themselves to be better in 2025 than they were in 2024 … with APR being the exception to that. His sack numbers will definitely go way down.

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13 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

Uche and APR is hardly proven depth.

Huff's best season...10 sacks.

Uche's best season... 11.5 sacks.

Huff was disappointing with his new team last year and was a healthy scratch in the Super Bowl.
Uche was disappointing with his new team last year and was a healthy scratch in the Super Bowl.

Uche is Huff. Huff is Uche. Only difference is Uche costs like 15% of Huff's cost and could be cut for basically no cost. Huff was replaced on the roster when they signed Uche.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

You lost me. How did he get duped?

Taking a big cap hit next year. The initial cap savings reported this year is no where close to what it actually turned out to be. And now he's going to play under Saleh who had him playing at such a highly graded pass rush level that caused the Eagles to sign him, and the 49ers are only taking on a small portion of that cap hit to get him.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

So what I hear you saying is add one, cut one. Is that right?

Well, one didn't even dress for KC in the SB and another is a rookie late round pick. Nobody can know what they have right now, so I'd personally like to see them add one of the top 3 FA vets. If they all end up playing well they have options. If they need one 2 months from now because they didn't work it's not ideal.

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Huff's best season...10 sacks.

Uche's best season... 11.5 sacks.

Huff was disappointing with his new team last year and was a healthy scratch in the Super Bowl.
Uche was disappointing with his new team last year and was a healthy scratch in the Super Bowl.

Uche is Huff. Huff is Uche. Only difference is Uche costs like 15% of Huff's cost and could be cut for basically no cost. Huff was replaced on the roster when they signed Uche.

I don't disagree with any of that. I wasn't even considering anything about Huff in my comment.