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48 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Inside the Eagles war room video of 2025.

A few thoughts:

-Although they cut off the sound eventually it sounded like the Chargers gave a firm offer of 32 and 64 for 22 and regardless of how or why thank gosh that deal fell through

-Howie literally called every team from 22 and on and it was pretty obvious teams were wary to deal with Howie

-Howie was getting pissed off about the above thought

-I loved hearing Howie tell the room on Saturday morning that they wanted to shoot for starters with upside

-I also loved hearing the one scout say that Mondon had the highest upside of anyone left and they got him in the 5th

-Lastly, when Howie in beast mode working the phones and Nick is sitting there with a dumb look on his face and feet kicked up, I can only imagine what thoughts go through his head. I get total Homer Simpson vibes from him in that way.

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50 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Interesting from the video, the move up to 22 was going to cost 32 and 64. Thank goodness gracious Campbell fell to 31. Wouldn't have liked that.

Howie was calling every single GM to try and move up and they all kept saying no or they had better offers. One team put him on hold to elevator music.

Once they got to pick 26, Howie said "It's ok, we got 6 guys" so I'm guessing that means 6 guys left with first round grades still available. Wonder who they were.

Reading between the lines of their visits, names mentioned in the video, and speculation:

Jihaad Campbell - Obviously

Malaki Starks - Likely

Maxwell Hairston - Likely

James Pearce Jr. - Likely

Coming up with the last two would be total guesses but I think those three besides Camppbell were probably on the list.

12 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Lurie seemed to indicate that he was glad Conerly was picked, so I interpreted Howie’s "good pick” on the cameras as a good pick for us to let another player drop.

Based on the body language, Hairston also seemed to be one of the 6.

The fact that had Howie mentioned Hairtson and Pearce when those picks were up and the way he said it seemed like a good indication that they were two of the six guys they had left in that cluster they mentioned when they were six picks away.

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

A few thoughts:

-Although they cut off the sound eventually it sounded like the Chargers gave a firm offer of 32 and 64 for 22 and regardless of how or why thank gosh that deal fell through

-Howie literally called every team from 22 and on and it was pretty obvious teams were wary to deal with Howie

-Howie was getting pissed off about the above thought

-I loved hearing Howie tell the room on Saturday morning that they wanted to shoot for starters with upside

-I also loved hearing the one scout say that Mondon had the highest upside of anyone left and they got him in the 5th

-Lastly, when Howie in beast mode working the phones and Nick is sitting there with a dumb look on his face and feet kicked up, I can only imagine what thoughts go through his head. I get total Homer Simpson vibes from him in that way.

I'm so glad he didn't move up for that. We agree that teams seemed wary to deal with Howie this year. Not just in that round but through the draft. They had no problems trading when they wanted to move up, but not when Howie did.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Reading between the lines of their visits, names mentioned in the video, and speculation:

Jihaad Campbell - Obviously

Malaki Starks - Likely

Maxwell Hairston - Likely

James Pearce Jr. - Likely

Coming up with the last two would be total guesses but I think those three besides Camppbell were probably on the list.

I'll say Starks, Hairston, Campbell, Conerly, Ezeiruaku, and one of Josh Simmons/Mason Taylor/Emmanwori.

I can't get over Howie's reaction to the Falcons trade. That's why he called the Falcons for a trade back on day 2.

Another thing I wanted to mention about the draft unrelated to the inside access video.

I absolutely love the pick of Ty Robinson. I think with his age, skill set, and experience he will likely be a contributor at least by the second half of the season and has that floor to be a good 4th DT, but with his athletic ability and size also has upside to be more down the road. I would have liked the pick at 96. To be able to move down twice and gain a 5th round pick in 2025, and a 6th round pick that became Myles Hinton are the types of wins on the margins that Howie constantly gains especially on day three of the draft. It almost feels like other teams ease up on day three when it comes to trades and Howie is extra locked in and motivated to find those small wins on the margins that add up.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'll say Starks, Hairston, Campbell, Conerly, Ezeiruaku, and one of Josh Simmons/Mason Taylor/Emmanwori.

All good guesses. Lurie didn't seem too upset about Conerly being picked by Washington though which is why I didn't put him on the list. When Howie said about Hairston and Pearce it was a weird vibe of slight disappointment, but not being downright upset which is obviously because Campbell was their top target. I am probably reading into things way too much but that's what I took from it. I don't think Emmanwori is a Vic type of Safety at all but then again our scouts typically love those athletic freak types so who knows. If I were to straight up guess who the other two were I would say Ezeiruaku and Taylor.

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

The fact that had Howie mentioned Hairtson and Pearce when those picks were up and the way he said it seemed like a good indication that they were two of the six guys they had left in that cluster they mentioned when they were six picks away.

Vic looked happy as hell watching the first two picks.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

I can't get over Howie's reaction to the Falcons trade. That's why he called the Falcons for a trade back on day 2.

I guarantee you based on his reaction and comment "no wonder people don't want to take our offers" that he said some other things which were definitely never going to show up on that video for everyone to see. Howie had that smirk on his face that just said "those morons did what?"

33 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The day 3 part is the most interesting. Going around the room and asking everyone "who is your high upside guy for X, Y, Z position". It's kind of interesting they didn't put in any conversation about McWilliams, Williams or Powell-Ryland in there during that part. I'm probably reading too much into it but still

I saw that. Particularly relevant for McWilliams who went higher. One possibility is that what was said included things they didn’t want out there like something about another player or maybe a pro con thing and they wouldn’t want a con released

33 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

BVS as a returner? I'd rather he were a blocker. I'd want another guy with a little juice back there. Adoree Jackson seems like the guy to pair back there.

Hell, we have seen Calcaterra in the upback position. Jackson is too slight. The upback needs to be able to block a lot because that is the primary operation of that position. I think Shipley is still the KOR. PR is probably going to one of the WRs.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Interesting from the video, the move up to 22 was going to cost 32 and 64. Thank goodness gracious Campbell fell to 31. Wouldn't have liked that.

Howie was calling every single GM to try and move up and they all kept saying no or they had better offers. One team put him on hold to elevator music.

Once they got to pick 26, Howie said "It's ok, we got 6 guys" so I'm guessing that means 6 guys left with first round grades still available. Wonder who they were.

No chance he meant six guys with first round grades.

7 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

All good guesses. Lurie didn't seem too upset about Conerly being picked by Washington though which is why I didn't put him on the list. When Howie said about Hairston and Pearce it was a weird vibe of slight disappointment, but not being downright upset which is obviously because Campbell was their top target. I am probably reading into things way too much but that's what I took from it. I don't think Emmanwori is a Vic type of Safety at all but then again our scouts typically love those athletic freak types so who knows. If I were to straight up guess who the other two were I would say Ezeiruaku and Taylor.

My read is they probably liked him, but all the mocks had the Commies going defense there and they were worried the Commies would take Campbell.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

No chance he meant six guys with first round grades.

I would agree. It was probably six guys they came into the draft being comfortable with to take at 32 (to certain degrees) with Campbell being the clear top 10 guy having had a top 10 grade on their board. Howie said leading up to the draft they have multiple scenarios and they always start with the worst case scenario they would be comfortable with with if they can't trade down and work back from there. My guess is the last guy or two in that list of six were that "worst case scenario."

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No chance he meant six guys with first round grades.

Agreed

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

My read is they probably liked him, but all the mocks had the Commies going defense there and they were worried the Commies would take Campbell.

Either way I'm glad they didn't get him. He seemed a little soft to me and we have thrived with having tough maulers in the run game on our line.

Given Campbell was top 10 on their board, curious if their board factors in need. For example, would Jeanty have been top 10 on their board given they have Barkley? Curious what their top 10 of their board was.

Hunter, Carter, Graham, Walker, Warren, Will Campbell, Membou, Jihaad Campbell were all probably on it.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No chance he meant six guys with first round grades.

Well he either meant that or 6 guys who were "their guys" but then I thought if he didn't mean first round grades, then it would be very un-Howie-like to stand pat at 32. Howie is all about value. And if all their first round graded guys were gone, Howie would 100% try to trade down. So then what would "Guys we like at 32" tangibly mean if not first round grades? Just thinking out loud.

It was also interesting they showed nothing in rd 2. Pretty clear there was a lot of attempts to move up that got cut out. All they show is the call and they show Hallaby touting it at a later interview

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Thing is, we don’t need him to do that. But there are several OL out there that have been consistent back up and even starters that were Stout trained. Say, for example, Matt Pryor. This Cam Williams is Lane’s heir apparent crap is absolutely a step too far. That’s media hyperbole. But as a Toth, Fred Johnson, Driscoll replacement? That’s the immediate need. I am hopeful that Stout can get the younger players capable of challenging Lamm and Pryor, Howie’s FA signed insurance.

Tbh i think he’s a better prospect than what vaitai was. Stoutland was able to get Vaitai to be a solid backup for us and eventually competent as a starter. Maybe williams never becomes anything but i think just as a prospect he’s better than vaitai and if he’s willing to learn that stoutland could have more success with him

I found it interesting that they didn’t show any sort of pre-pick behind the scenes footage with the Mukuba selection. Maybe there’s something to the Eagles getting sniped or just not being able to trade up for someone who fell. Howie said they had opportunities to trade down from 64 but decided against it. I would have liked to have seen some of that, particularly if they were more resolute about sticking to pick Mukuba. Maybe it was boring footage.

As for the rest, I really liked the behind the scenes discussion about day 3 players who have starting upside. Like others said, it was interesting who was notably absent from the footage — McWilliams and Williams. It was likely because there were some negatives mentioned during the talk that were too clunky to edit out. I’m sure Williams in particular did based on the tone of Howie’s call to him when he was picked.

Oh, and Howie was nuts to offer 32/64 for Campbell. The Chargers were even more nuts.

Probably my favorite part of the draft video

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I found it interesting that they didn’t show any sort of pre-pick behind the scenes footage with the Mukuba selection. Maybe there’s something to the Eagles getting sniped or just not being able to trade up for someone who fell. Howie said they had opportunities to trade down from 64 but decided against it. I would have liked to have seen some of that, particularly if they were more resolute about sticking to pick Mukuba. Maybe it was boring footage.

As for the rest, I really liked the behind the scenes discussion about day 3 players who have starting upside. Like others said, it was interesting who was notably absent from the footage — McWilliams and Williams. It was likely because there were some negatives mentioned during the talk that were too clunky to edit out. I’m sure Williams in particular did based on the tone of Howie’s call to him when he was picked.

Oh, and Howie was nuts to offer 32/64 for Campbell. The Chargers were even more nuts.

I would have to re-watch it but I feel like Howie was repeating back to the Chargers their offer and he was thinking about it. Reports are that the Eagles thought they had a deal and the Chargers decided at the last minute to not take it but that could be incorrect. Howie might have also countered their offer and that's why it didn't happen. Either way, since they cut it off there we will probably never know who the offer came from and which side turned it down. I would agree with you though that if the Chargers turned down 32 and 64 for 22 they are morons and that would have been a steep price for Howie to pay.

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Well he either meant that or 6 guys who were "their guys" but then I thought if he didn't mean first round grades, then it would be very un-Howie-like to stand pat at 32. Howie is all about value. And if all their first round graded guys were gone, Howie would 100% try to trade down. So then what would "Guys we like at 32" tangibly mean if not first round grades? Just thinking out loud.

I think it’s simply six guys they’d be happy with at 32 to varying degrees. Think of it like when we got sniped repeatedly and then traded down during the Marcus Smith debacle. They had five or six guys they’d were good with and they all went in the preceding five or six selections. Hence the trade down. My read is that they knew they’d get a guy they really liked if they stuck at 32, but they had a rare opportunity to get a top 10 player way later than they would have ever believed.

As an aside… From what I’ve read through the years teams have something like 13-22 first-round grades each draft. Medicals can convolute things like it did with Campbell and Cooper falling. Usually that’s how the highly graded players fall — because medical staffs have different reads on the physicals.

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