44 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Oooo good question. I'd say current players and retired are both fair game

I could definitely see Brandon Graham standing over a half broken 14 yo boy shouting, "ALL DAY BABY BOY! ILL SEE YOU AGAIN SOON, DONT YOU FORGET ABOUT ME NOW!”

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I love his swagger, but that greatly outweighs his actual play.

I've heard this a lot. Eagles had the 2nd best pass yards per game defense; #1 in passing TD allowed; 4th in rushing yards allowed; 2nd rushing TD allowed; CJGJ 3rd in interceptions. He's a good safety, and was the Eagles best safety. And would be if he was still on the team.

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I've heard this a lot. Eagles had the 2nd best pass yards per game defense; #1 in passing TD allowed; 4th in rushing yards allowed; 2nd rushing TD allowed; CJGJ 3rd in interceptions. He's a good safety, and was the Eagles best safety. And would be if he was still on the team.

27 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I've heard this a lot. Eagles had the 2nd best pass yards per game defense; #1 in passing TD allowed; 4th in rushing yards allowed; 2nd rushing TD allowed; CJGJ 3rd in interceptions. He's a good safety, and was the Eagles best safety. And would be if he was still on the team.

I was with you until you said he was the Eagles’ best safety. Blankenship was clearly the glue. Look at what we’re seeing this off-season. It’s all who’s going to play safety with Blankenship, not who the two safeties are. Good golly! Could we have two white safeties?🙀

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Oooo good question. I'd say current players and retired are both fair game

Lawrence Taylor, Terrell Owens, Ray Lewis

31 minutes ago, just relax said:

I was with you until you said he was the Eagles’ best safety. Blankenship was clearly the glue. Look at what we’re seeing this off-season. It’s all who’s going to play safety with Blankenship, not who the two safeties are. Good golly! Could we have two white safeties?🙀

Glue does not equate to best. Blankenship is a good safety as well, but I think Johnson is a better safety. Not by leaps and bounds, but better. Splittin' hairs, most likely.

3 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Glue does not equate to best. Blankenship is a good safety as well, but I think Johnson is a better safety. Not by leaps and bounds, but better. Splittin' hairs, most likely.

Nah

Ghost is far better

2 hours ago, schuy7 said:

CJ's all over the place. He loved it here, so this is just his way of getting through it. He'll be fine in 5 minutes. And then pissed off again 5 minutes later.

He's not stable.

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

I've heard this a lot. Eagles had the 2nd best pass yards per game defense; #1 in passing TD allowed; 4th in rushing yards allowed; 2nd rushing TD allowed; CJGJ 3rd in interceptions. He's a good safety, and was the Eagles best safety. And would be if he was still on the team.

He led the team in coverage busts and Fangio doesn’t seem to miss him…

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lawrence Taylor, Terrell Owens, Ray Lewis

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He led the team in coverage busts and Fangio doesn’t seem to miss him…

He also stole interceptions. He had 3 on the year and 2 were stolen from Q.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He led the team in coverage busts and Fangio doesn’t seem to miss him…

Tells you everything. If Vic was upset, I think he'd have found a way to make it known... just as he did with Davis' fitness level early last year.

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Oooo good question. I'd say current players and retired are both fair game

Lane Johnson would deadpan tell them all they have no chance and then beat their best WR in a race

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nah

Ghost is far better

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He led the team in coverage busts and Fangio doesn’t seem to miss him…

Eh, like I said, I think it's close. And I don't think either of them sniff the top 10 safeties in the league. Good, solid safeties that have flaws but don't hurt the back end terribly.

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Yet the comments Ringo made about placing his feet and weight and controlling his speed suggests coaching is insuring they know how to properly use their skills. A player can have all the speed in the world but if they take three steps to stop or turn, the speed is wasted. Loved the comment by Smith about needing to play the run to earn the right to rush the passer.

Hopefully Sydney Brown is paying attention

38 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Glue does not equate to best. Blankenship is a good safety as well, but I think Johnson is a better safety. Not by leaps and bounds, but better. Splittin' hairs, most likely.

You mistake athleticism for skill at the position.

JMHO

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

You mistake athleticism for skill at the position.

JMHO

No I don't. GJGJ is a good safety. So is Blankenship. I like GJGJ a little better. If CJGJ made less than $4million like Blankenship, he'd still be here. You think the Eagles are chomping at the bit to give Blankenship the 3 years $27 million they gave CJGJ?

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

No I don't. GJGJ is a good safety. So is Blankenship. I like GJGJ a little better. If CJGJ made less than $4million like Blankenship, he'd still be here. You think the Eagles are chomping at the bit to give Blankenship the 3 years $27 million they gave CJGJ?

It looks to me like they gave CJ 1 year.

53 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Glue does not equate to best. Blankenship is a good safety as well, but I think Johnson is a better safety. Not by leaps and bounds, but better. Splittin' hairs, most likely.

My problem with CJGJ was consistency. His splash plays were great, but his run of the mill plays were frequently not as good as they needed to be.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

My problem with CJGJ was consistency. His splash plays were great, but his run of the mill plays were frequently not as good as they needed to be.

Same can be said of Blankenship. Good safeties, but nothing great.

CJGJ always has been an ups and downs kind of guy. Highlight reel hits, INTs, blown coverages, blown tackles, taunting issues, etc.

Blankenship is the exact opposite. Isn’t blowing people up, isn’t making highlight reel grabs (although he actually does have a nose for the ball and for INTs), will get beat when isolated, but is a very steady player who won’t blow an assignment. That’s a coach’s best friend. And it’s especially useful when you are turning over 2 adjacent positions.

So I’d say that the coaches definitely valued Blankenship over CJGJ, regardless of the unique cap implications of each. Both are nice safeties though.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

CJGJ always has been an ups and downs kind of guy. Highlight reel hits, INTs, blown coverages, blown tackles, taunting issues, etc.

Blankenship is the exact opposite. Isn’t blowing people up, isn’t making highlight reel grabs (although he actually does have a nose for the ball and for INTs), will get beat when isolated, but is a very steady player who won’t blow an assignment. That’s a coach’s best friend. And it’s especially useful when you are turning over 2 adjacent positions.

So I’d say that the coaches definitely valued Blankenship over CJGJ, regardless of the unique cap implications of each. Both are nice safeties though.

If GJGJ was only owed $3.5 million for 2025 like Blankenship he'd still be here. He was let go because they value Carter, Smith, and Baun more than CJGJ and Blankenship.

Just something I wanted to put out there on Hurts. It took some time, but I think the FO, coaching staff at large, Siri, and Hurts himself figured out how to use Hurts last year.

It was an uncomfortable settling process. Hurts is not a traditional NFL qb. (Duh). But that’s not because he’s not Peyton Manning. The benchmark for traditional has moved. Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are now traditional NFL QBs. Flickable arm talent, athleticism primarily aimed at generating improvisational off balance throws that elude the edge rush….and, this part like Peyton/Brady….often dropping back and using that talent to throw the ball 35-40 times per game.

That simply isn’t Jalen Hurts. We all tried to force that square peg through that round hole in 2021, did so with some degree of success in 2022, then again with more modest results in 2023, and then again with poor results in the first few games of 2024. When you utilize him in that fashion, he turns the ball over too much, makes uncomfortable and poor decisions, and generally doesn’t make the most of his opportunities in the passing offense.

What Hurts thrives with…a vintage Hurts game:

• 40-60 yards of physical north-south running against fronts that drop into coverage leaving a soft middle, almost all runs going for first downs

• Multiple tush push conversions

• Conservative, low volume, turnover free short range passing.

• 1-2 effective, accurate deep rainbows for the back breaker.

  That’s his game. He can be the engineer of an elite offense in doing that. He and the team proved they can win a SB with that. I don’t think that works in back and forth shootouts or big deficits for come-from-behind victories…but he’s paired with a defense that didn’t allow that to happen anyway.

  It takes some discipline and a little irreverence for convention to manage your QB and run your offense that way. It took them a little while to figure out that’s how they had to do it. It does lean on the defense to avoid putting them in positions that force them to depart from that, but it’s working. That’s a big credit to Sirianni…it may not take a genius or an AR/Mcvay type mind to run this offense, but it does take a unique blend of insight, flexibility, and steadfast commitment (something those coaches may not have) to pull it off.

21 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Same can be said of Blankenship. Good safeties, but nothing great.

I find Blankenship is much more consistent, just not as flashy.