50 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Outside of the Eagles draft, I thought just in terms of the first two picks, the Ravens might have had the best first two picks. Character stuff aside, just in terms of the players, if you told me the Eagles could have come out of the first two picks with Starks and Green I would've been like no way. There was a time where many thought both would be gone before the late 20s, and the Ravens got both. I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC. I thought they were in 2024 as well, but for whatever reason that team always shot themselves in the foot all season long. And their season ended the same way. Andrew a critical drop and a critical fumble.

I want to see if Howie is just prepared to roll into the season with what he's got at Edge or if they make another move. Berman said the other day he doesn't think they're done at Edge and if they make another move it's probably there. Unless they trade Goedert of course, then he'd expect them to make a move at TE to add someone better than what they've got currently.

34 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im completely fine with the picture at edge. I wouldnt mind someone like Matt Judon or Von Miller still being brought in cheap. Miller started 0 games and still had 6 sacks last year. Still effective in a limited role, and a great vet for the young guys to learn from.

I too am okay with Edge. After OTAs and Training Camp I might not be, but until then I’m comfortable waiting and watching as things develop. Judson and Miller are worth considering, but I worry about Miller’s age, and I worry that Judon has the potential to be another Huff. I also don’t know why Judon would be any better than Ojulari,

23 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm uneasy about Hunt just being given a starting spot. I think he has a lot of upside, but this time last year we were talking about him being two years away and incredibly raw. Looked good when he played, but I don't think I've seen enough to declare him definitely a starting Edge. He didn't play very much and the sample size was really small. He may prove to be, but I can't be confident in declaring that. I don't think it would be the craziest thing in the world if we start the 2025 season and he looks like he's not quite ready.

You have always had a bias for experienced players over inexperienced players. That is how you roll. So your concerns about Hunt are both understandable and "solidly you”. On the other hand my biases are toward giving the younger players the opportunity to fail before going out and getting a veteran player. Hunt and Smith were given a baptism by fire when BJ was not available in weeks 13-18 and the first three Playoffs games. They passed that test with flying colors. Sure it is a small-ish sample size, but I have confidence in (A) both players, (B) Washburn and Hurtt, and (C) Fangio to develop what we have into a cohesive and productive unit.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

I just read the article. Intriguing prospect. I won’t be surprised if he makes the 53. I also looked for the grammar faux pas … but couldn’t find it

I did not read past the headline. When you use the word SITES instead of SIGHT, my brain just turns off.

It is like reading an RTK post.

14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You have always had a bias for experienced players over inexperienced players. That is how you roll. So your concerns about Hunt are both understandable and "solidly you”. On the other hand my biases are toward giving the younger players the opportunity to fail before going out and getting a veteran player. Hunt and Smith were given a baptism by fire when BJ was not available in weeks 13-18 and the first three Playoffs games. They passed that test with flying colors. Sure it is a small-ish sample size, but I have confidence in (A) both players, (B) Washburn and Hurtt, and (C) Fangio to develop what we have into a cohesive and productive unit.

Not always. I actually prefer young with upside, but in a repeat season, I haven't seen enough of Hunt to be comfortable just handing him a starting job without depth behind he and Nolan I feel confident in. And I certainly don't feel confident in Huff and Uche. Uche has sucked for a few years now, and Huff just isn't a fit here. Ojulari I'm good with, if he's healthy. This is a position the Eagles usually try to go 5 deep at and we simply don't know who on this roster is even playable right now. So I just want the position more solidified.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Not always. I actually prefer young with upside, but in a repeat season, I haven't seen enough of Hunt to be comfortable just handing him a starting job without depth behind he and Nolan I feel confident in. And I certainly don't feel confident in Huff and Uche. Uche has sucked for a few years now, and Huff just isn't a fit here. Ojulari I'm good with, if he's healthy. This is a position the Eagles usually try to go 5 deep at and we simply don't know who on this roster is even playable right now. So I just want the position more solidified.

Far too risk averse. Signing another old player is all cost no benefit

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Far too risk averse. Signing another old player is all cost no benefit

I don't agree with that at all. I think there are a lot of benefits to signing Za'Darius Smith. And it doesn't have to be an old guy, Howie could still swing a trade a la CJGJ a few years ago.

I think the odds of the Eagles getting something good out of anyone on this roster besides Nolan, Hunt, Ojulari(and even he is no given) are more unlikely than likely. Uche is not a good player, and we saw what Huff was in 2024. It's a premium position and I think right now it's pretty tenuous for the Eagles. Not a lot of reliable guys there.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't agree with that at all. I think there are a lot of benefits to signing Za'Darius Smith. And it doesn't have to be an old guy, Howie could still swing a trade a la CJGJ a few years ago.

I think the odds of the Eagles getting something good out of anyone on this roster besides Nolan, Hunt, Ojulari(and even he is no given) are more unlikely than likely. Uche is not a good player, and we saw what Huff was in 2024. It's a premium position and I think right now it's pretty tenuous for the Eagles. Not a lot of reliable guys there.

You seem to have strong feelings but very little data to base them on. Let camps play out. Smith is on the street for reasons and Uche might be washed but thats not what i saw the last few years.

You seem to think activity and progress are the same thing. Dont rush a decision just to do a thing. Especially when we know resources are only going to get more scarce in the next few seasons. Bad time to invest in declining players

I came away from watching that Eagles draft room video thinking the Chargers could have made that trade back to #32 and still come away with Omarion Hampton.

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

You seem to have strong feelings but very little data to base them on. Let camps play out. Smith is on the street for reasons and Uche might be washed but thats not what i saw the last few years.

You seem to think activity and progress are the same thing. Dont rush a decision just to do a thing. Especially when we know resources are only going to get more scarce in the next few seasons. Bad time to invest in declining players

I think Smith would possibly be the 2nd best Edge on the team, at worst 3rd. He's better than Ojulari and certainly better than Uche and Huff. So at worst, you'd be upgrading those guys. And he won't cost very much. I don't see the downside to a move like that. Or swinging a trade for someone else. Let's be real, if Howie made either of those moves, no one here would be complaining.

It's gonna be a crunch to get down to 53 as it is. Especially if we want to protect any of the developmental lineman. Sure Howie could grab a vet or 2 eventually but I don't get the impression they're looking for starters in free agency at this point.

I do think there's kind of a parallel with how the Edges handled Edge this offseason with how the Phillies handled the bullpen. Both teams lost two of their more reliable players. Both teams decided to go for risky low cost signings to replace them and rely on their young guys to take on a more prominent role. It's totally backfired for the Phils. I have more confidence in things for the Eagles, but I do think a world exists where we're sitting here in October lamenting them not having done more at that position. If they do anything it probably won't be til after June 1st, we'll see.

On a side note I have a feeling Cameron Williams will be the guy this year that is raw and talented, but doesn't look great in camp/preseason because he's really raw and the Eagles have to decide whether to find a place for a guy on the roster who's not ready to play yet or subject him to waivers and risk another team plucking him.

23 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think Smith would possibly be the 2nd best Edge on the team, at worst 3rd. He's better than Ojulari and certainly better than Uche and Huff. So at worst, you'd be upgrading those guys. And he won't cost very much. I don't see the downside to a move like that. Or swinging a trade for someone else. Let's be real, if Howie made either of those moves, no one here would be complaining.

I agree. They have two guys they can depend on (hunt and smith), a couple of maybes (uche and ojulari) and a waste of space (huff). Bringing in Zadarius Smith or Von Miller on a cheap deal hurts nothing, especially Miller where he has still produced in a rotation.

These guys are still on the street because they're old, and don't need to go through a million camps. Vets do this literally all the time, Suh and Joseph were on the street when we signed them and both played well (albeit they were later in-season signings).

I think going in with what we have now is a recipe for disaster and could lead to one of hunt or Smith getting hurt. They may have to play more snaps to counter the ineffectiveness of the people behind them. We can't expect all 3 of Uche, Ojulari, and Huff to produce, I think even 2/3 is a stretch.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

I have 77 of those mysteries every day.

I know what you mean. Usually by the third or fourth try, the name comes to me.

Interesting background on Maliq Carr

8 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

6 year player. 2 at michigan, 4 at washington. Finally fairly productive last year. Little guy 5'9'' with a 4.41 40, and 37'' vert with plenty of KR experience and some PR experience. Eagles are throwing a lot at the wall hoping a returner sticks.

24 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Interesting background on Maliq Carr

Note that he didn’t show up for a tryout, at least per the list on Friday of the participants.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Note that he didn’t show up for a tryout, at least per the list on Friday of the participants.

That is unfortunate. He looked smooth. Wonder why he didnt show.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

6 year player. 2 at michigan, 4 at washington. Finally fairly productive last year. Little guy 5'9'' with a 4.41 40, and 37'' vert with plenty of KR experience and some PR experience. Eagles are throwing a lot at the wall hoping a returner sticks.

Needed WR depth. But keeping Lew Nichols over Davis-Price is a surprise but may have been a mutual choice because it is unlikely he would have advanced past practice squad.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

That is unfortunate. He looked smooth. Wonder why he didnt show.

McMullen suggested a bunch of possible reasons but nothing clear. Heck, he may have showed up yesterday and today.

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

I think Smith would possibly be the 2nd best Edge on the team, at worst 3rd. He's better than Ojulari and certainly better than Uche and Huff. So at worst, you'd be upgrading those guys. And he won't cost very much. I don't see the downside to a move like that. Or swinging a trade for someone else. Let's be real, if Howie made either of those moves, no one here would be complaining.

Pending the results. Either way the itys would percolate up

I would complain bc its a bad use of resources. Go back to what howie said. We can find backups anytimr

36 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I was hoping for Kaimon Rucker. Nearly impossible to show enough at a non padded rookie camp for an edge though.

2 hours ago, pallidrone said:

I did not read past the headline. When you use the word SITES instead of SIGHT, my brain just turns off.

It is like reading an RTK post.

I didn’t even notice that. I have always thought that headlines have license to suspend the rules of grammar. Spelling; however, doesn’t get a free pass like grammar does. My bad for missing it.

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Not always. I actually prefer young with upside, but in a repeat season, I haven't seen enough of Hunt to be comfortable just handing him a starting job without depth behind he and Nolan I feel confident in. And I certainly don't feel confident in Huff and Uche. Uche has sucked for a few years now, and Huff just isn't a fit here. Ojulari I'm good with, if he's healthy. This is a position the Eagles usually try to go 5 deep at and we simply don't know who on this roster is even playable right now. So I just want the position more solidified.

Fair enough. Thanks for explaining

A comment I wanted to make some months ago but it slipped my mind: I think The KC OL was the worst OL we faced all season. I note too that the Washington team added Tunsil and Conerly. It's easy to see why.