1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Nick isn’t the only HC that tends to design his offense to fit what he has. But I would note that Hurts does his best with a strong OL and flourishes in read zones, which were more evident last year.

No doubt, but the Eagles were at the extreme end of the adaptation. 58% running was tops in the league by a wide wide margin. Only 5 teams were at 50% or higher.

There’s still only two second round picks in the entire NFL that have signed their deals.

41 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There’s still only two second round picks in the entire NFL that have signed their deals.

You would have to guess Shough will be the first to cave and sign no? Needs the repair more than any of em

54 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There’s still only two second round picks in the entire NFL that have signed their deals.

y

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There’s still only two second round picks in the entire NFL that have signed their deals.

Agents fighting for Fully guaranteed deals?

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading Tanner McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

30 minutes ago, mattwill said:

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading Tanner McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

Immediately

26 minutes ago, mattwill said:

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading Tanner McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

It would be as idiotic not to take the pick as it would be to offer a 1st rd pick for him solely based on a couple years of preseason showings.

I mean, I'm sure there is still the occasional Eagles fan that just doesn't like the Hurts style QB that is somehow hoping for some "pocket passer" to overtake him, but that is so unrealistic. We have our franchise QB. He's the respected leader of the team and the main element of culture this team is being built around. There is no backup QB that is more valuable to us than a 1st rd pick.

53 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

y

The first two guys selected in the second got fully guaranteed deals from the Browns and Texans so every other 2nd rounder/agent is either pushing for the same or waiting to see what someone near their draft slot gets.

44 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Agents fighting for Fully guaranteed deals?

That and no player seems to want to blink and just sign

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The first two guys selected in the second got fully guaranteed deals from the Browns and Texans so every other 2nd rounder/agent is either pushing for the same or waiting to see what someone near their draft slot gets.

idiots.

50 minutes ago, mattwill said:

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading Tanner McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

Yes.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading Tanner McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

Easily, yes

35 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Immediately

31 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

It would be as idiotic not to take the pick as it would be to offer a 1st rd pick for him solely based on a couple years of preseason showings.

I mean, I'm sure there is still the occasional Eagles fan that just doesn't like the Hurts style QB that is somehow hoping for some "pocket passer" to overtake him, but that is so unrealistic. We have our franchise QB. He's the respected leader of the team and the main element of culture this team is being built around. There is no backup QB that is more valuable to us than a 1st rd pick.

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yes.

Just now, schuy7 said:

Easily, yes

I agree with you all. What would you do about QB2 after the trade?

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

To be clear, I have almost zero percent interest in trading Tanner McKee this season. But for the purposes of hypothetical dialogue in these dead days (I emphasize hypothetical), if you were offered a 2027 1st Round pick for McKee, would you take it?

I would probably feel guilty and ask you to reconsider

9 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I have a ton of respect for Hurts. I am very happy that he is our QB. He has earned all of the accolades he is receiving.

But let's be honest, he is playing a different version of the position than the folks you compare him to. He behind the best OL in the game and has a multitude of weapons around him. He doesn't have to carry this team like other QBs need to do. I heard a stat on a podcast recently. The only game after the bye that Hurts threw a pass while trailing in the fourth quarter was the Panthers game. There are several QBs that would have as much, if not more, success on this team as currently constructed.

The whole thing about this argument is that I really don’t care how people want to grade Hurts. If I’m starting a team from scratch, I’m probably taking Allen and Burrow over him. Brady from 2001-2006 pretty much rode the coattails of his elite defense to Super Bowls. Hurts isn’t the first QB to be surrounded by great talent, but he is one of the few who actually cashed it in and elevates his play when the stakes are at their highest. I think the two best games of his career have been in both Super Bowls. Dak has had great talent over the years and can’t get out of the second round, Phillip Rivers had the best RB in football and never made it past the AFC title game.

Being surrounded by good players certainly helps, but it’s not a guarantee that you’re going to win a Super Bowl. Hurts plays his role perfectly and the adjustment he made from playing stupid hero ball in 2023 to calculated, smart play in 2024 was extremely encouraging to watch. He grew tenfold in one offseason.

After living through guys like McNabb and Wentz who were mentally soft and couldn’t get it done, it’s finally nice to have a quarterback who has a killer mentality, works his ass off, and is a borderline sociopath who won’t stop at anything.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree with you all. What would you do about QB2 after the trade?

Trade a 2nd round pick in 2027 for one.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Trade a 2nd round pick in 2027 for one.

😎😎😎

You wouldn’t ride with McCord?

Another question for the assembled multitudes, if Ojulari doesn’t make the 53-man roster, do the Eagles get the Isaiah Rodgers comp pick after all?

21 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree with you all. What would you do about QB2 after the trade?

You keep developing the young guys and if the confidence is low, there will be vets available you can sign (or trade for) later. If for some reason there's a major injury to Hurts early, that's something the team will do for sure.

19 minutes ago, mattwill said:

😎😎😎

You wouldn’t ride with McCord?

As the #2... sight unseen? Nope.

50 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree with you all. What would you do about QB2 after the trade?

Sign Carson Wentz

33 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

As the #2... sight unseen? Nope.

Why not? Hurts goes down we are probably hosed anyway

Seems like the agents aren’t picking the right draft class to try for second round fully guaranteed contracts. The player loses camp, probably doesn’t play so loses value to the team. The player that doesn’t sign may find themselves back in the draft next year. For example, given the likely QB options in 2026, does Slough, already 25, go in the second round, or even Day 2, for example. He goes from possibly competing for the starter role to quite possibly a late day 3 pick.

Mukuba, a year away from football, might be a Day 3 pick. One year of the two needed to be a starter per the Eagles gone. That’s basically Ringo, who some thought would go in the first but fell to a fourth. Given how Howie does extensions with a lot of upfront money, the kid would be stupid to miss a day of camp.

Stupid hill to die on. 35.62% of second round picks are busts. (Bust being defined as starting 0-1 seasons). 55% of DEs, 46% of WRs (including some Eagles), 37.5% of DTs, 55% of QBs, 47% of RBs. Only OL at 19% and DBs at 28% are better than at least a third being busts.

Total membership of the NFLPA doesn’t want Huffs. Absent all contracts being fully guaranteed, the guarantees hurt other players. That money the Eagles paid for Huff is money straight out of the pockets of other players. Frankly, that dead money hurt Blankenship. It may have hurt Becton. There is a reason that the NFLPA went with a rookie salary pool. With all due respect to Torres and his collusion crap, the only ones that care are the agents as that guaranteed money is their guarantee. I suspect the majority of fans are on the side of less guarantees not more. (Just ask an 76ers fan).

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Another question for the assembled multitudes, if Ojulari doesn’t make the 53-man roster, do the Eagles get the Isaiah Rodgers comp pick after all?

No