37 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The list was made up by execs, coaches and scouts in the NFL

The attributes that Hurts has in spades are not ones that execs and scouts can easy quantify when assessing players. Coaches ought to be able to though.

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I was curious

Percentage of on-target throws per pass attempt, excluding spikes and throwaways:

Geno 81.8%

Tua 81.3%

Goff 80.5%

Burrow 80.3% (crazy considering the amount he threw for)

Source for those interesting stats?

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The attributes that Hurts has in spades are not ones that execs and scouts can easy quantify when assessing players. Coaches ought to be able to though.

I also think a lot of these types get an initial opinion on players on other teams that's hard for them to separate from.

38 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The list was made up by execs, coaches and scouts in the NFL

That answered a reporter’s call. Could be just a few. I doubt that Pro Personnel Scouts are going to answer, for example. Position coaches, maybe, but not necessarily QB coaches. I just don’t see Howie answering. So maybe Big Dom, who is both a "coach” and an executive. So quite possibly answers came from persons that haven’t watched a lot of film on each player. Pretty much BS.

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Converting Eagles fans in the mid south

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I also think a lot of these types get an initial opinion on players on other teams that's hard for them to separate from.

Plus his stoicism doesn't win him many admirers.

I'd like to see Stroud bounce back. He's fun to watch

I wonder if Lawrence will bounce back

I think Williams will be better. They've built a nice team around him

Bo Nix will be interesting in his 2nd season

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd like to see Stroud bounce back. He's fun to watch

I wonder if Lawrence will bounce back

I think Williams will be better. They've built a nice team around him

Bo Nix will be interesting in his 2nd season

I hope they all suck.

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I was curious

Percentage of on-target throws per pass attempt, excluding spikes and throwaways:

Geno 81.8%

Tua 81.3%

Goff 80.5%

Burrow 80.3% (crazy considering the amount he threw for)

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/passing_advanced.htm

What is the measurement for on-target. I think of McNabb, for example that had issues with touch resulting in short passes with too much velocity. On target but not easily catchable. Or all those shoestring catches Westbrook made when there wasn’t quite enough in the throw. Were those "on-target”. How about the timing throws where the QB threw it where the WR was supposed to be but the receiver wasn’t? What’s their metric?

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I hope they all suck.

I'm not into FF but I do watch other teams and there are players that are fun to watch for me

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

What is the measurement for on-target. I think of McNabb, for example that had issues with touch resulting in short passes with too much velocity. On target but not easily catchable. Or all those shoestring catches Westbrook made when there wasn’t quite enough in the throw. Were those "on-target”. How about the timing throws where the QB threw it where the WR was supposed to be but the receiver wasn’t? What’s their metric?

No idea. I'd assume they just go by the whole 'if it touches the receivers' hands then it's catchable' but they could use something more technical

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

I'm super curious why those players are being compared especially considering Daniels has 1 year lol

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm super curious why those players are being compared especially considering Daniels has 1 year lol

Content, nothing to talk about in the middle of summer sports wise

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Content, nothing to talk about in the middle of summer sports wise

In that case I would have selected other QBs to compare to

30 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

In that case I would have selected other QBs to compare to

Add Dak in...🤣

40 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm super curious why those players are being compared especially considering Daniels has 1 year lol

Because these are players who were ranked above Hurts on that list.

4 minutes ago, jamiller said:

Add Dak in...🤣

He would have a checkmark in the All Pro column at least 🤷‍♂️

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Because these are players who were ranked above Hurts on that list.

All but 1 of those stats are team stats though. You could argue SBMVP is still based on the player but they usually give it to the QB that won anyway. But the appearance and the win are team based

Disclaimer: that's not saying Hurts does or doesn't deserve his (because I know you would have replied about it )

40 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He would have a checkmark in the All Pro column at least 🤷‍♂️

All but 1 of those stats are team stats though. You could argue SBMVP is still based on the player but they usually give it to the QB that won anyway. But the appearance and the win are team based

Disclaimer: that's not saying Hurts does or doesn't deserve his (because I know you would have replied about it )

Agree to disagree on the QBs impact on winning. The one stat that you say isnt team based still has only Hurts with the All-Pro and none of those other QBs.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Agree to disagree on the QBs impact on winning. The one stat that you say isnt team based still has only Hurts with the All-Pro and none of those other QBs.

Agreed. Hurts earned that 2nd team All Pro. There are other QBs that have that as well that get compared to Hurts a lot though

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm super curious why those players are being compared especially considering Daniels has 1 year lol

Isn’t that what ESPN was doing?

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Isn’t that what ESPN was doing?

The list was the top 10/32. That picture RTK posted was a comparison of a few QBs on whether they had an All Pro, SB appearance, SBMVP, and a SB win that clearly was to display Hurts is better than those QBs

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Agreed. Hurts earned that 2nd team All Pro. There are other QBs that have that as well that get compared to Hurts a lot though

Who?

I would bet that NFL teams have a similar position as to the multinational I worked at for decades. Only certain people were allowed to talk with the press. I suspect the Eagles have dedicated (approved) leakers to get their messages out but otherwise the organization is pretty closed. The agents that excel with the press tend to control the message for their players too, which is why the "insiders” tend to post almost identical "breaking news”.