1 hour ago, mattwill said:

While everything you say is correct, is this a perfect test case to legally challenge those eligibility rules? Curt Flood, where are you?

Well, a test case would be a legal challenge in court. He’d lose this year before the case got past preliminary motions. Further, he’d have to be a walk on because all scholarships are spoken for at this point for this upcoming season. Given the recent House settlement, I don’t see any court moving quickly on the matter. It was piss poor speculation by the original author and got legs on social media.

I'm looking forward to seeing the ring tonight, when is the ceremony?

I hope they do a video on it like they did last time.

23 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I'm looking forward to seeing the ring tonight, when is the ceremony?

I hope they do a video on it like they did last time.

Here is the video on it. The Ring was one of those creepy ones that sticks with you for a while.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

That's cute. You think you're really doing something helping the team posting online and watching the games on TV.

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

That's cute. You think you're really doing something helping the team posting online and watching the games on TV.

Don't believe I said anything about posting online. If you want to be naive and think fans have no impact then you're certainly allowed to think it

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Fans finance the league. Fans are not impacting the outcomes.

You need to watch the 2 Eagles SB wins again and listen this time.

Fans have the most outcome in football.

The Eagles are also a cash rich franchise because we support them with our dollars. This helps them sign any deal they want and give out any bonus they want.

19 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

You need to watch the 2 Eagles SB wins again and listen this time.

Fans have the most outcome in football.

Yes, the Eagles won their Super Bowls because of...the crowds.

17 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Yes, the Eagles won their Super Bowls because of...the crowds.

The one guy in all of Eagles fandom that hates Jason Kelce also does not understand that crowd noise impacts football.

I'm shocked.

You definitely put two Lombardis on the second ring.

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Remove the fans and where is the league going. Fans are the reason the draft is such a spectacle now. Fans are the reason the SB costs so much. Fans are everything

Fans are directly responsible for a small patio of NFL revenues, and this event is one with no fan revenue. It is also one with no network revenue. If it were important to the fans, then (like the Draft) the NFL would sell the broadcasting rights. But they haven’t and there is no indication that they ever will. A small fraction of one team’s fans will be upset. None of the fans of the other 31 teams will care one iota. And the kind of Eagles fan who will be upset is also the kind of Eagles fan who lives and dies with the team, and definitely will not stop following the team just because of a ring ceremony slight.

8 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Beats getting in on the Nasty Nate

Reporters are going to fall in love with Anias Smith.

Calcaterra will have a good camp, but he's less random.

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fans are directly responsible for a small patio of NFL revenues, and this event is one with no fan revenue. It is also one with no network revenue. If it were important to the fans, then (like the Draft) the NFL would sell the broadcasting rights. But they haven’t and there is no indication that they ever will. A small fraction of one team’s fans will be upset. None of the fans of the other 31 teams will care one iota. And the kind of Eagles fan who will be upset is also the kind of Eagles fan who lives and dies with the team, and definitely will not stop following the team just because of a ring ceremony slight.

Since you wanted to butt in

Indirectly fans are responsible for tv and streaming rights. This is by far the biggest source of NFL revenue. Major networks (CBS, NBC, Fox, ESPN) and streaming platforms (Amazon Prime Video, YouTube TV for Sunday Ticket) pay billions for the rights to broadcast games. These companies do so because of the massive viewership the NFL commands, and that viewership comes directly from fans. Estimates suggest that roughly two-thirds (66%) of the NFL's total revenue comes from national media and sponsorship deals, with TV deals being the primary driver. For example, each NFL team received an estimated $374.4 million from national revenue sources in a recent season, largely from these deals. Because NFL games attract such huge audiences, advertisers are willing to pay top dollar for commercial spots during games, especially during high-profile events like the Super Bowl. This advertising revenue is directly tied to the number of fans watching

Directly fans are responsible for ticket sales, merchandise and licensing, concessions and in-stadium spending, and now fantasy football and gambling. Ticket sales account for a smaller percentage of the overall league revenue compared to media deals. Estimates vary, but ticket sales are often cited as being around 15-20% of total NFL revenue. A portion of ticket sales (around 34%) is pooled and shared among all 32 teams. Fans directly contribute by purchasing jerseys, hats, and other officially licensed NFL products. This is a multi-billion dollar industry that directly benefits the league and its teams. Money spent on food, drinks, and other items at stadiums contributes to local team revenue. The popularity of fantasy football and the growing legalization of sports betting increase fan engagement, which in turn can lead to increased TV viewership and associated advertising revenue

While direct purchases like tickets and merchandise are important, the most significant way fans contribute to NFL revenue is through their attention and viewership. This massive fanbase makes the NFL an incredibly valuable property for broadcasters and advertisers, leading to the colossal media rights deals that form the backbone of the league's finances. Without fans, there would be no viewership, and thus, no reason for companies to pay billions for broadcasting rights or advertising

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9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fans are directly responsible for a small patio of NFL revenues, and this event is one with no fan revenue. It is also one with no network revenue. If it were important to the fans, then (like the Draft) the NFL would sell the broadcasting rights. But they haven’t and there is no indication that they ever will. A small fraction of one team’s fans will be upset. None of the fans of the other 31 teams will care one iota. And the kind of Eagles fan who will be upset is also the kind of Eagles fan who lives and dies with the team, and definitely will not stop following the team just because of a ring ceremony slight.

You are using some strange analysis on fans value to the NFL. Its more like 98%. If every fan of every team stopped going to the games and watching the games there is no next TV contract. Its all supported by fans (plus taxes for stadiums) I have probably spent 10 to 1 on Eagles gear, NFL packages, etc. than on all other sports and teams combined. I am not alone.

Compare the NFL revenues to the summer league with like 8000 fans per team. (in stadium and watching on TV)

I could care less about the live ring ceremony. I will watch a 2 minute wrap up on YouTube.

That's what I did for the Schwarbombs to end the Misiorowski Worship Game earlier this week.

damn he is an idiot

I like this jacket

You guys are overthinking it.

Home games matter. #1 seed matters literally because it’s "home field advantage”.

That’s where fans come into play.

I hate that I know what this is all about. This has been played out beyond belief over the course of 2 days. Enough already.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

I hate that I know what this is all about. This has been played out beyond belief over the course of 2 days. Enough already.

I thought the "This IS my wife" sign was funny

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I hate that I know what this is all about. This has been played out beyond belief over the course of 2 days. Enough already.

That was awesome though

Since you wanted to butt in

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Indirectly fans are responsible for tv and streaming rights. This is by far the biggest source of NFL revenue. Major networks (CBS, NBC, Fox, ESPN) and streaming platforms (Amazon Prime Video, YouTube TV for Sunday Ticket) pay billions for the rights to broadcast games. These companies do so because of the massive viewership the NFL commands, and that viewership comes directly from fans. Estimates suggest that roughly two-thirds (66%) of the NFL's total revenue comes from national media and sponsorship deals, with TV deals being the primary driver. For example, each NFL team received an estimated $374.4 million from national revenue sources in a recent season, largely from these deals. Because NFL games attract such huge audiences, advertisers are willing to pay top dollar for commercial spots during games, especially during high-profile events like the Super Bowl. This advertising revenue is directly tied to the number of fans watching

Directly fans are responsible for ticket sales, merchandise and licensing, concessions and in-stadium spending, and now fantasy football and gambling. Ticket sales account for a smaller percentage of the overall league revenue compared to media deals. Estimates vary, but ticket sales are often cited as being around 15-20% of total NFL revenue. A portion of ticket sales (around 34%) is pooled and shared among all 32 teams. Fans directly contribute by purchasing jerseys, hats, and other officially licensed NFL products. This is a multi-billion dollar industry that directly benefits the league and its teams. Money spent on food, drinks, and other items at stadiums contributes to local team revenue. The popularity of fantasy football and the growing legalization of sports betting increase fan engagement, which in turn can lead to increased TV viewership and associated advertising revenue

While direct purchases like tickets and merchandise are important, the most significant way fans contribute to NFL revenue is through their attention and viewership. This massive fanbase makes the NFL an incredibly valuable property for broadcasters and advertisers, leading to the colossal media rights deals that form the backbone of the league's finances. Without fans, there would be no viewership, and thus, no reason for companies to pay billions for broadcasting rights or advertising

Mike, of all the Eagles audience, what proportion care about watching the ring ceremony? There aren’t even one out of 10 posters here in the Blog who have expressed concern/deprivation as you have. The proportion outside tha Blog probably isn’t one out of 100. All the rest of the 31 team fanbases is zero out of 100. So the math says one viewer out of every 3,200 cares. And as I said in my earlier comment the characteristics of those 1 in 3,200 is "rabid fan” who may complain, but will always watch.

So the downside for the NFL is "no harm, no foul.”

1 hour ago, SkippyX said:

You are using some strange analysis on fans value to the NFL. Its more like 98%. If every fan of every team stopped going to the games and watching the games there is no next TV contract. Its all supported by fans (plus taxes for stadiums) I have probably spent 10 to 1 on Eagles gear, NFL packages, etc. than on all other sports and teams combined. I am not alone.

Compare the NFL revenues to the summer league with like 8000 fans per team. (in stadium and watching on TV)

I could care less about the live ring ceremony. I will watch a 2 minute wrap up on YouTube.

That's what I did for the Schwarbombs to end the Misiorowski Worship Game earlier this week.

Skippy, how much revenue will the NFL lose because the ring ceremony isn’t televised?