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25 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Well that's why you do a retractable dome. It gets too cold in February for SB requirements so they'd have to have a dome but they can leave it open for the rest of the year

Would they? Nope. They'd close it and we wouldn't have a game like the NFC Divisional Round vs. the Rams ever again. nonono

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15 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

What makes you think they'd do that?

What city with a retractable dome doesn't close it when the outdoor conditions aren't pretty much ideal?

21 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Ideally, but you know how it'll go. Come November, the roof will be closed every game because it's cold. The slightest bit of rain, wind, etc it'll be closed. It will basically be like having a dome the far majority of the time. I want cold playoff games and we won't get those anymore. The home field advantage that gives, I love it. The feel of playoff football in the elements.

Keep it open but have heated seats.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Thats what teams typically do. If you have the option of being in a more comfortable climate, you are going to opt for it. Why make your team and fans sit in 50 degrees if it could be 68 degrees and climate controlled?

Honestly never noticed. Checked AI

While teams with fixed domes use them 100% of the time for home games, the usage of retractable roofs by NFL teams is much more variable and often less frequent than one might expect.

Here's a breakdown of how often NFL teams with retractable roofs use them during the regular season, along with the influencing factors:

General Tendency: Often Closed

Despite the ability to open, many retractable roofs are kept closed for a significant majority of games. Reports from past seasons indicate that for many teams, the roof remains closed for 60-80% or even higher of their home games.

Key Factors Influencing Retractable Roof Usage:

  1. Weather Conditions: This is the most obvious factor.

    • Temperature: If the temperature is too hot (especially in the southern states where most of these stadiums are located, like Arizona, Texas, and Georgia) or too cold, the roof will likely be closed for fan comfort. Many teams have internal policies, for example, only opening the roof if the temperature is between 50 and 80 degrees Fahrenheit.

    • Precipitation: Rain, snow, or even the threat of them, will lead to the roof being closed.

    • Wind: High wind gusts can also necessitate closing the roof for safety and comfort.

    • Sun Glare: In some stadiums (like AT&T Stadium in Dallas), opening the roof can lead to significant sun glare for players and fans, especially in certain parts of the stadium, which can make teams prefer to keep it closed.

  2. Team Preference/Home-Field Advantage:

    • Noise Amplification: A closed roof amplifies crowd noise, creating a more hostile environment for visiting teams. Many teams explicitly prefer to play with the roof closed for this reason, believing it gives them a home-field advantage.

    • Consistency: Some coaches and teams might prefer a consistent, controlled environment regardless of external weather fluctuations.

  3. Fan Comfort: Beyond just temperature, humidity can be a factor. Even on a warm but humid day, teams might keep the roof closed to allow for air conditioning and a more comfortable fan experience.

  4. Maintenance and Cost: While less of a game-by-game decision, retractable roofs are incredibly complex and expensive to operate and maintain. This significant cost may play a subtle role in general tendencies to keep them closed unless conditions are ideal for opening. There have been instances where teams went years without opening their roof.

  5. Multipurpose Use: These stadiums are often designed for events other than NFL games (concerts, conventions, etc.). The roof functionality allows for flexibility in scheduling and maximizing revenue, even if it's not opened often for football.

Examples:

  • Houston Texans (NRG Stadium): Have historically kept their roof closed for a very high percentage of games, often making news when they do open it.

  • Dallas Cowboys (AT&T Stadium): While a spectacular stadium, the roof is often closed due to sun glare issues and preference for noise amplification.

  • Arizona Cardinals (State Farm Stadium): Given the intense heat in Arizona, the roof is usually closed, especially earlier in the season. They have a unique feature where the entire playing field slides out to get sunlight.

In summary, while retractable roofs offer the option of open-air play, the reality is that NFL teams with these facilities often prioritize controlled environmental conditions, amplified crowd noise, and fan comfort, leading to the roofs being closed for the majority of regular season games.

I think crowd noise could be factored into the building planning even with a retractable roof though

I know Dallas has the extreme sun glare in their stadium but if you're smart during the planning then you wouldn't have that

Fan comfort.. I think they could do something like the Bills new stadium that leaves the field open and protects the fan more

Basically I think you could prevent many of the "issues"

Given new stadiums last for 30+ years and newer ones probably even longer, if the Eagles get a dome or retractable roof, once that new stadium is built I’ll never see another cold weather home playoff game again in my lifetime. Thinking of it that way is morbid as hell, but it’s the reality. I don’t want that reality. I live for the atmosphere of a cold home playoff game. I don’t want a lame corporate ass dome.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Rams-Eagles playoff game on NFL Network

Carter deserves a max contract just for that game alone. May have been the best defensive performance by an Eagle ever in a high-stakes game. He wrecked that game.

Build a domed stadium with the capability to produce any type of game conditions. Instead of a coin flip pregame, the referee rolls a die 2 hours before kickoff:

  1. Open roof with existing outdoor climate

  2. Steady light to moderate rainfall throughout

  3. Turn on the snow making machines and reduce field temperature to zero

  4. Darkness with only sufficient interior lights to support television cameras

  5. Steady winds of 20 mph and gusts to 40 mph

  6. Shuffle setting, where conditions change every 10 minutes of play

For home playoff games the Eagles submit their choice 48 hours before kickoff.

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Build a domed stadium with the capability to produce any type of game conditions. Instead of a coin flip pregame, the referee rolls a die 2 hours before kickoff:

  1. Open roof with existing outdoor climate

  2. Steady light to moderate rainfall throughout

  3. Turn on the snow making machines and reduce field temperature to zero

  4. Darkness with only sufficient interior lights to support television cameras

  5. Steady winds of 20 mph and gusts to 40 mph

  6. Shuffle setting, where conditions change every 10 minutes of play

For home playoff games the Eagles submit their choice 48 hours before kickoff.

I’m 100% in

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Fangio was a fan of Wilkins and he thrived in his defense. So there's the Fangio connection. But Wilkins may not even be healthy. He had a jones fracture last year, didn't get surgery on it, and apparently it hasn't healed right. So we'll see what happens.

Might see another Isaiah Rodgers situation where we sign him and he misses the year. Then we reap the rewards next year.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Thats what teams typically do. If you have the option of being in a more comfortable climate, you are going to opt for it. Why make your team and fans sit in 50 degrees if it could be 68 degrees and climate controlled?

50 degrees in a stadium is not even close to cold. If theyre worried about putting their fans in a comfortable environment theyd enclose the parking lots so they dont have to be cold tailgating.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Would they? Nope. They'd close it and we wouldn't have a game like the NFC Divisional Round vs. the Rams ever again. nonono

It would be 10 years from now so who knows what the state of the team is and what the ownership structure is. But hypothetically if it was now both Lurie and Roseman seem like the type who would ask the players and coaches if they would want it open or closed in a playoff game.

NFL snow game is peak in person sports experience

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Build a domed stadium with the capability to produce any type of game conditions. Instead of a coin flip pregame, the referee rolls a die 2 hours before kickoff:

  1. Open roof with existing outdoor climate

  2. Steady light to moderate rainfall throughout

  3. Turn on the snow making machines and reduce field temperature to zero

  4. Darkness with only sufficient interior lights to support television cameras

  5. Steady winds of 20 mph and gusts to 40 mph

  6. Shuffle setting, where conditions change every 10 minutes of play

For home playoff games the Eagles submit their choice 48 hours before kickoff.

Lurie could then auction off a chance for a fan to come in and create the weather for the game.

I mean we all know that he is broke so this is a great opportunity for him to make some cheddar.

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Why do you want a SB in Philly? Just for the chance that it becomes a home game?

What if the Cowboys are playing in that game? All of their fans with their Cowboy jerseys and Yankee caps walking around Center City for a week. What a f-ing nightmare!

The SB location process isn't broken and let's keep our homefield advantage for the playoffs.

4 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Why do you want a SB in Philly? Just for the chance that it becomes a home game?

What if the Cowboys are playing in that game? All of their fans with their Cowboy jerseys and Yankee caps walking around Center City for a week. What a f-ing nightmare!

The SB location process isn't broken and let's keep our homefield advantage for the playoffs.

LOL! Like the Cowboys could make a Super Bowl while Jerruh still runs the team!

6 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Why do you want a SB in Philly? Just for the chance that it becomes a home game?

What if the Cowboys are playing in that game? All of their fans with their Cowboy jerseys and Yankee caps walking around Center City for a week. What a f-ing nightmare!

The SB location process isn't broken and let's keep our homefield advantage for the playoffs.

I have no desire to see a Super Bowl in Philly in part for that reason. Odds are very low the team from that stadium plays in it. The back to back years of Tampa and the Rams winning at home was an anomaly. I have no desire to see the Linc, (or any future Birds stadium) endzones painted in another teams colors, nor do I want another team winning it all on our turf. I’m petty like that.

7 hours ago, pallidrone said:

Lurie could then auction off a chance for a fan to come in and create the weather for the game.

I mean we all know that he is broke so this is a great opportunity for him to make some cheddar.

That would be great. We lost so many players this offseason because Lurie couldn’t afford to pay them.

9 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

If Eagles had a retractable roof it might as well be a dome.

Yep, retractable roof just means dome if we're being honest.

The Texans have beeen playing at Reliant Stadium, which has a retractable roof since 2002. They've played 187 games there and the roof has only been open FIVE times. T

The Falcons Mercedes-Benz Stadium has had the roof open TWICE out of 64 games. You're telling me the ATL weather is that unbearable that they can't have the roof open to the elements? Same goes for the NCAA games they hold there.

Lucas Oil and the Colts have a retractable roof and windows. Since 2008, 15 of 97 games have had the roof and windows open to create an outdoor atmsophere.

The Cardinals State Farm Stadium. 158 home games played. Roof open 4 times

Jerrry World has seen 118 home games, surprisingly 30 have had the roof open.

5 teams have retractable roofs. 624 games played. 56 of them have had the roof open. If the Eagles build a new stadium with a retractable roof, they are building a dome. I hate it.

Dejean playing some TC snaps at Safety is a great little bit of PR for other teams. More optionality in the secondary to alongside more optionality at LB with Campbell. Very smart to get it out there now, for some teams to think about and prep for

The driving theory for why Rick Lovato is no longer thelongsnapper is tied to a way for Lurie to save money. But has it been considered that maybe they view the way Lovato was snapping last season was part of the issue with Elliott having his worst season?

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The driving theory why Rick Lovato is no longer thr longsnapper is tied to a way for Lurie to save money. But has ot been considered that maybe they view the way Lavato was snapping last season was part of the issue with Elliott having his worst season?

Not at all.

The only reason he is gone is because of how broke Lurie is.

16 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Those kids will need counseling

Chuck E Cheese has always been a dirty rat.

I had a old cab driver in the Jersey shore recently who claimed he recently drove the new long snapper. Apparently he told him Howie didn't like how much penetration happened up the middle on punts so he decided to move on.

Be sure to follow me on Twitter for more breaking long snapper hearsay.

12 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Thats what teams typically do. If you have the option of being in a more comfortable climate, you are going to opt for it. Why make your team and fans sit in 50 20 degrees, snowing and windy if it could be 68 degrees and climate controlled?

I'm not sure, given the history of retractable roof stadiums being open vs. being closed, that a retractable roof would be worth the extra cost. It'll be interesting to see how the Bills' stadium design is received - fans are at least covered but field is exposed to the elements.

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