4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Their obsession with Brett Toth is infuriating.

I spent a lot of time listening to pods about how Steen would have to be moved to LG so Pryor could play RG

Maybe I’ll learn my lesson and not need up to the minute updates that turn out to be untrue but I doubt it

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13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Toth or Kinnard, who will start week 1?

Could go either way. It's a Toth up.

I'll see myself out.

Gotta say I'm baffled at the Bengals love the past couple of months. Have they improved? They've spent all their money bringing back the same guys they went 9-8 with the previous two years.

The AFC North plays the AFC East and NFC North this season, and their 3 other opponents are ARI, JAX, and DEN. Not a brutal schedule but not a cream puff one, either. They're a 9-8 team again until they show me otherwise.

Don't even get me started on the Steelers.

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Toth or Kinnard, who will start week 1?

Could go either way. It's a Toth up.

I'll see myself out.

You should have left Pryor to that post.

14 hours ago, Godfather said:

Wasn't he all about Philly a few years ago? Couldn't stop talking about the Eagles

He was a big Wentz guy. Turned on the organization when they traded Wentz and went with Hurts. Called it a massive mistake.

Adoree and Mukuba first team. Just reading the tea leaves. Feels like Fangio wants Ringo to win the job, but he's not winning it. Feels like he wants Mukuba to win the job and he's gonna give him a chance to win it.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Gotta say I'm baffled at the Bengals love the past couple of months. Have they improved? They've spent all their money bringing back the same guys they went 9-8 with the previous two years.

The AFC North plays the AFC East and NFC North this season, and their 3 other opponents are ARI, JAX, and DEN. Not a brutal schedule but not a cream puff one, either. They're a 9-8 team again until they show me otherwise.

Don't even get me started on the Steelers.

Tbh i don’t know how much better that defense is going to be. They have a new DC. They pissed off their best defensive player. Who knows what happens with that. Defense doesn’t have very much outside of Trey, Wilson and 2 and maybe 3 other players. I really wouldn’t be shocked if that defense is close to as bad as it was last year

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

He was a big Wentz guy. Turned on the organization when they traded Wentz and went with Hurts. Called it a massive mistake.

After the 2020 season I still thought the Eagles should have given Wentz another year and that Hurts’ ceiling was a more athletic Case Keenum. Was dead wrong but media heads (and most people in general) have a very tough time admitting that they’re wrong and accepting that it’s ok to change your opinion.

I can’t even watch/listen to sports shows anymore. It’s so bad and mostly just weird. ESPN is the worst. It’s clear several of these people just say things to get views and clicks.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Adoree and Mukuba first team. Just reading the tea leaves. Feels like Fangio wants Ringo to win the job, but he's not winning it. Feels like he wants Mukuba to win the job and he's gonna give him a chance to win it.

Actually, both are rotating with Ringo and Brown with the ones and twos. As Vic says, he needs to mix so that they all have experience playing together.

Just now, BigEFly said:

Actually, both are rotating with Ringo and Brown with the ones and twos. As Vic says, he needs to mix so that they all have experience playing together.

This and what I said both can be true. But let's be real, if Ringo was dominating camp, he would not be rotating out as often as he is. We don't see Quinyon rotating out. Or Blankenship. Fangio is just using gamesmanship.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

This and what I said both can be true. But let's be real, if Ringo was dominating camp, he would not be rotating out as often as he is. We don't see Quinyon rotating out. Or Blankenship. Fangio is just using gamesmanship.

So you see all the plays and know that for a fact? Damn, I wish I had your connections.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

So you see all the plays and know that for a fact? Damn, I wish I had your connections.

I'm going based on what the people covering camp have said, and so far it's been a pretty big consensus. Do you really think if Ringo was dominating that he'd be playing second team as much as he is? C'mon.

23 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

After the 2020 season I still thought the Eagles should have given Wentz another year and that Hurts’ ceiling was a more athletic Case Keenum. Was dead wrong but media heads (and most people in general) have a very tough time admitting that they’re wrong and accepting that it’s ok to change your opinion.

I can’t even watch/listen to sports shows anymore. It’s so bad and mostly just weird. ESPN is the worst. It’s clear several of these people just say things to get views and clicks.

I thought we should have stayed with Wentz, and I was wrong. Clowns like Orlovsky refuse to alter their opinions despite new information. They said Hurts couldn't win in 2020/2021, and they will never change that view.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm going based on what the people covering camp have said, and so far it's been a pretty big consensus. Do you really think if Ringo was dominating that he'd be playing second team as much as he is? C'mon.

Yes. I have seen tweets about Q covering with Tanner throwing. I have seen precious little mention about Reed’s snaps. The Beats are very focused on specific players, especially the tier 3 Beats, who are the most prolific with the tweets. The practice reports can offer a bit more insight but those are limited too. So, since none of the Beats has contradicted what Vic said, i will defer to Vic.

It’s early practice and pretty soon it will be stretching/position drills once a week for the Beats. It is about reps at this point. Frankly, we should be encouraged that we have three CBs besides Q practicing with the ones. (Plus some McWilliams in nickel and dime.) We should be encouraged that Mukuba, Brown, McCollum and Sam have all had reps with the ones. That Cooks (pre injury), Cooper, Marshall, Wilson and Ainias Smith have all seen throws from Hurts. The Beats don’t see the walkthroughs and pretty soon won’t see more than a half hour once a week of stretching/position drills. Unless, which would seem out of character with the secrecy now in place, Nick names starters, we won’t know until they lineup in a game.

37 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

He was a big Wentz guy. Turned on the organization when they traded Wentz and went with Hurts. Called it a massive mistake.

I forgot that's what it was about

Are they only doing one joint practice with Cleveland or are they flying out this afternoon for joint practices tomorrow and Thursday? Can't imagine they are doing a practice on Friday with the game on Saturday.

Burrow sucks now? What a crazy take

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yes. I have seen tweets about Q covering with Tanner throwing. I have seen precious little mention about Reed’s snaps. The Beats are very focused on specific players, especially the tier 3 Beats, who are the most prolific with the tweets. The practice reports can offer a bit more insight but those are limited too. So, since none of the Beats has contradicted what Vic said, i will defer to Vic.

It’s early practice and pretty soon it will be stretching/position drills once a week for the Beats. It is about reps at this point. Frankly, we should be encouraged that we have three CBs besides Q practicing with the ones. (Plus some McWilliams in nickel and dime.) We should be encouraged that Mukuba, Brown, McCollum and Sam have all had reps with the ones. That Cooks (pre injury), Cooper, Marshall, Wilson and Ainias Smith have all seen throws from Hurts. The Beats don’t see the walkthroughs and pretty soon won’t see more than a half hour once a week of stretching/position drills. Unless, which would seem out of character with the secrecy now in place, Nick names starters, we won’t know until they lineup in a game.

Do we have a listing of beats broken down by tier?

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Are they only doing one joint practice with Cleveland or are they flying out this afternoon for joint practices tomorrow and Thursday? Can't imagine they are doing a practice on Friday with the game on Saturday.

2 joint practices -- Wednesday and Thursday,

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

2 joint practices -- Wednesday and Thursday,

Josh Gordon has requested to be at these joint practices….

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Not good enough to make the cowpads, Rogers is another NT type. Was hoping they would keep,Johnston over Hughlett.

Awful workout stats, basically a big body to eat 4th Q snaps then get cut in first wave, probably not even worth a PS spot unless he discovered conditioning.