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The Goedert signing prompts me to look at what players we lose at the end of this season and match that up with the Draft picks Howie has in the 2026 Draft. In the list below there are only two starters, Blankenship and Goedert. Nakobe Dean can be considered to be a third starter, but in Fangio’s 4-2-5 scheme, Jihaad Campbell is the better starter than Dean. Blankenship will almost surely be extended before the end of this season.

So Howie will enter 2026 Free Agency and the Draft with holes in TE1 (Goedert), TE2 (Bryant and/or Calcaterra), RB2 (Dillon), WR3 (Dotson), Edge 3/4 (Ojulari and/or Uche). That is 5 holes and 5 picks in Days 1 and 2 of the Draft. Plus seven picks in Day 3, which can address LS (Hughlett) and other depth positions. It is really an enviable position to be in.

On 4/22/2020 at 1:33 PM, BigEd76 said:

After 2025
Unrestricted:

Reed Blankenship, Harrison Bryant, Grant Calcaterra, Nakobe Dean, A.J. Dillon, Jahan Dotson, Dallas Goedert, Kylen Granson, Kenyon Green (if option isn't picked up), Charley Hughlett, Adoree' Jackson, Patrick Johnson, Kendall Lamm, Braden Mann, Terrace Marshall Jr., Azeez Ojulari, Matt Pryor, Josh Uche, Avery Williams
Restricted: Thomas Booker IV, Darian Kinnard, Tristin McCollum, Eli Ricks, Ben VanSumeren

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42 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Which one of you assclowns started this latest Hurts debate?

I posted a tweet that was asking which QB between Burrow and Allen you'd choose. Someone chose Hurts

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It definitely makes them mad when you don't rank them high enough. It's not an insult. Some players are just better than others. You can be great and still have another player above you

I think if Herbert was on another team then they'd be winning more. I'd rank him higher too

I didn't quote you because I wasn't talking about you

Not sure why you brought up SB measurements as an argument. I'd look towards his actual stats which do rank him way above Hurts

The game has changed so much that stats become meaningful only when you're talking about players from the same era. I would argue that Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham have to be in any top-10 grouping but their "actual" stats would disqualify them. Neither ever threw for even 3000 yards in a season, for example.

4 minutes ago, just relax said:

The game has changed so much that stats become meaningful only when you're talking about players from the same era. I would argue that Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham have to be in any top-10 grouping but their "actual" stats would disqualify them. Neither ever threw for even 3000 yards in a season, for example.

Are you talking about top 10 all time? Someone else may have but I've been only discussing current. I only mentioned Mahomes being close to top 10 all time in passing yards and TDs in a few years

12 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Their OL didn’t ask the coaching staff to run the ball more because the passing game was ineffective. How do square that with a top 5 QB?

The OL asking to run more really wasn’t because of the passing game. Old adage, run blocking allows the OL to be the one doing the pounding. Establish that and wear down the DL and things get easier on the OL as the game goes on. Attack the back seven with routes, blocking and facing multiple 220 plus players (Barkley, the two TEs, AJ) takes its toll. Then add to that Mailata running downfield smacking back seven players or Jurgens pulling. Best way to neutralize a defense is to start by pounding them.

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah if you want to put Hurts in the same tier as Jackson, then whatever, I don't agree but it's not worth debating. Trying to say he's better than both Jackson AND Josh Allen? Yeah that's where you lose me. The dude is a really good QB despite all the "students of the game" calling him trash and scum all year, but he's still not top-3 as it stands now.

Allen is streaky. Sometimes Allen puts the team on his back and wills the team and sometimes he is interception Allen. Jackson is a better QB than Allen.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

Which one of you assclowns started this latest Hurts debate?

No idea but be sure to check out the Hurts debate I plan on starting next Wednesday!

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6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

In the "Hurts" offense? Or one that suits the QB in question?

18 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I posted a tweet that was asking which QB between Burrow and Allen you'd choose. Someone chose Hurts

That was me. The Burrow/Allen question is boring. It's been going on in here for years, over and over again. The Wentz/ Dak debate was fun. Burrow/Allen is like eating tofu out of the package.

53 minutes ago, mattwill said:

What is it about Calcaterra that you don’t see as a receiver?

That’s not an OCB by any stretch of the imagination and even then it is a contested ball. I just don’t see him as Nick’s big WR.

53 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

When i read about the 2 TEs we signed it sounded like one was a little shorter, more of the H-Back type.

I have a feeling he has a better chance of sticking as the TE3 if he can show some versatility as a backup FB.

The other guy... maybe he beats Calculator if the Eagles figure he will be a cheaper long term option to extend compared to Calc.

Bryant is a year older than Calcaterra.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

In the "Hurts" offense? Or one that suits the QB in question?

The offense that was run with Hurts, Pickett or McKee.

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2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The offense that was run with Hurts, Pickett or McKee.

Baker comes to mind first. Maybe Geno or Kyler.

Hurts played well. But he wasn't as determinative as being SB MVP would suggest.

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35 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It definitely makes them mad when you don't rank them high enough. It's not an insult. Some players are just better than others. You can be great and still have another player above you

I think if Herbert was on another team then they'd be winning more. I'd rank him higher too

I didn't quote you because I wasn't talking about you

Not sure why you brought up SB measurements as an argument. I'd look towards his actual stats which do rank him way above Hurts

Given that Herbert has not had the same level of support that other QBs have had but what that suggests is he can’t put the team on his shoulders and win despite that. Frankly, the whole ranking thing is nonsense. In football it is the assemblage of the whole. And I will believe until my dying day that defense wins in the playoffs.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Baker comes to mind first. Maybe Geno or Kyler.

Hurts played well. But he wasn't as determinative as being SB MVP would suggest.

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I should add that I don’t mean my question to be a dig at Hurts, but more of a celebration of how awesome that roster was.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I find it funny that the NCAA acts like they actually care about academics given the state of NIL, the portal etc.

I am not sure how NIL money and the portal are negative for academics. If they really wanted to address academics, they could significantly limit team activities.

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

Historically or on an NFL roster today?

42 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The Goedert signing prompts me to look at what players we lose at the end of this season and match that up with the Draft picks Howie has in the 2026 Draft. In the list below there are only two starters, Blankenship and Goedert. Nakobe Dean can be considered to be a third starter, but in Fangio’s 4-2-5 scheme, Jihaad Campbell is the better starter than Dean. Blankenship will almost surely be extended before the end of this season.

So Howie will enter 2026 Free Agency and the Draft with holes in TE1 (Goedert), TE2 (Bryant and/or Calcaterra), RB2 (Dillon), WR3 (Dotson), Edge 3/4 (Ojulari and/or Uche). That is 5 holes and 5 picks in Days 1 and 2 of the Draft. Plus seven picks in Day 3, which can address LS (Hughlett) and other depth positions. It is really an enviable position to be in.

Braden Mann needs an extension.

27 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Are you talking about top 10 all time? Someone else may have but I've been only discussing current. I only mentioned Mahomes being close to top 10 all time in passing yards and TDs in a few years

All-time. And as an indication of how much the game has changed, just look at the balls used in the game.

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20 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

Justin Herbert loses us the Packers game with dumb INTs, but I'll go with healthy Kirk Cousins.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Hurts played well. But he wasn't as determinative as being SB MVP would suggest.

That's because Josh Sweat should have been MVP ph34r

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I am not sure how NIL money and the portal are negative for academics. If they really wanted to address academics, they could significantly limit team activities.

Quite possibly NIL is better in the long run for academics. Allows players to stay longer. Think of the players that won’t make the NFL but finish college with a degree and sometimes a Masters because they can afford to stay in college. NIL may have the impact for student athletes like the GI bill did for folks like my Dad.

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

The list isn't as long as one would think; to win the Super Bowl as a QB there needs to be a "clutch" factor -- where some QBs would lose a winnable Super Bowl almost by themselves (Ron Jaworski). For me, I would tend to eliminate the guys with a history of making mistakes in big spots -- Kirk Cousins, Dak (or, as Amari Cooper called him, "black Kirk Cousins"), Carr, Lawrence, Geno Smith, Darnold, etc.

My 2024 list would be -- Burrow, Allen, Herbert (maybe), Jackson, Goff (maybe), Mayfield, Mahomes, Stafford, Daniels. I think the list stops there.

Probably one-quarter to one-third of the QBs in the NFL could/would have gotten it done with the Eagles' roster around them, IMO.

I don't pretend to watch the Steelers and I sure as hell don't pretend to watch tape.... but the little I've seen of him, I think I know who Pickens reminds me of at this point in his career.

Brandon Lloyd

Dude could make the craziest circus catches, but missed the easy ones and took plays off. Ton of potential, but it never came together in the pros. Dude was in the league for 11 years and averaged 3 and a half TDs a season. And before you hit me with "older players decline so those stats will drop over time", he went 74-911-4 his second to last year, which was second best in catches and yards for him. And if it wasn't for his career year in his 8th season (77-1,448-11), those stats would have dropped a LOT.

If he focused on being the best he could be, he could have been something. But he finished his career 399-5,989-36 after 11 seasons.

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Given that Herbert has not had the same level of support that other QBs have had but what that suggests is he can’t put the team on his shoulders and win despite that. Frankly, the whole ranking thing is nonsense. In football it is the assemblage of the whole. And I will believe until my dying day that defense wins in the playoffs.

He's more accurate and a better passer than Hurts

8 minutes ago, just relax said:

All-time. And as an indication of how much the game has changed, just look at the balls used in the game.

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Are you arguing something? I'm just confused on your reply as I wasn't talking about that. Maybe you confused me with someone else?

I'd agree the times have changed. They've even changed from the crop that was 2000-2010

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