1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Bengals reportedly want a young D player plus picks for him too, so you probably are giving up Smith or someone similar.

Sydney Brown is young... and he's connected to the Bengals already. Perfect choice.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

They apparently want a defensive player or two and picks for him. Don’t know what defensive players the Eagles could give up. They obviously are not giving up Hunt or Nolan. Not much else to trade from on defense unless they want one of our linebackers. On offense not much to trade either unless they want Shipley or Steen or something.

The unknown to me is whether Hendrickson fits what Fangio wants to do. Conventional wisdom is "duh, he fits what any DC wants to do - he's Trey Hendrickson," but he's been a purely 4-3 DE his whole career. The failed Huff experiment also goes to show that Fangio values other things at that spot more than being able to win.

8 minutes ago, jmac+djaxallday said:

The unknown to me is whether Hendrickson fits what Fangio wants to do. Conventional wisdom is "duh, he fits what any DC wants to do - he's Trey Hendrickson," but he's been a purely 4-3 DE his whole career. The failed Huff experiment also goes to show that Fangio values other things at that spot more than being able to win.

Good points. Honestly, they need guys on Smith's level not TH's. Affordable and good.

It's not much of a price, who was Bryant? Don't even remember him in the two games.

It's Houston's 5ht for Philly's 6th, so about 20 points or so on the draft trade chart or equivalent to end of round 5ht, around #175. So not that cheap.

But Eagles are projected to get a 4th rd comp pick, 2 5th rd picks from ATL and SF (unless Huff hits conditions and it becomes a 4th) their own 5th and a 5th rd comp pick.

So they're not going to miss out on too many players due to this trade.

Metchie is a real hard luck story, blew out his ACL in the championship game before the draft, then Leukemia as a rookie.

Probably set him back a couple years, so Howie is gambling that this far away he'll be 100% and with enough NFL experience to break out with good coaching (and a top QB).

Howie likes these high upside, low cost gambles.

This is probably why we traded for Metchie. I made a prediction a few weeks ago that we would trade for a dirty work WR. My guess was Ja’Lynn Polk, who might not make the Patriots.

None of our top three WRs are any good at this stuff, and Wilson stinks. I don’t have high hopes for Metchie, but I think the pick swap is being underrated by some. They must see something more than a swap of players who won’t make the team.

30 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

I think a team will claim Cooper.

He’s at least shown enough to think he could actually be an NFL player. Smith has not.

Look, I was the first on here to say don’t sleep on Cooper, but he was an UDFA. I did kind of wonder if the Eagles hid him a bit yesterday with a PS spot as the target. That said, Melchie has to beat him, Wilson, Smith and Marshall (a second round pick too). Low cost for Melchie so worth the gamble but that’s all it is.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

This is probably why we traded for Metchie. I made a prediction a few weeks ago that we would trade for a dirty work WR. My guess was Ja’Lynn Polk, who might not make the Patriots.

None of our top three WRs are any good at this stuff, and Wilson stinks. I don’t have high hopes for Metchie, but I think the pick swap is being underrated by some. They must see something more than a swap of players who won’t make the team.

That's a great block by a WR on an edge, let alone Watt.

I read that Metchie will be a RFA since he missed his rookie year beating cancer, so there’s that.

3 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Dotson didn't see the ball last season because he was acquired late in training camp. He spent time with Hurts this offseason to build a rapport. It is reasonable to expect more from him this season.

Metchie was just acquired late in training camp.

This trade didn't cost anything and if Brown's injury becomes an issue, having another SEC WR is a good move.

Not just an SEC WR, but a Bama teammate of Devonta WR.

Hendrickson is a better idea in theory than reality. Has been a pure 4-3 DE his whole career. Fangio wants his edges to drop and his ILBs to be able to rush, so he can send 4 but still affect the OL like he's blitzing. You lose that with Hendrickson.

I kinda don't want the Eagles to trade their 2026 pick stockpile. We're already feeling the effects of losing depth players and not having the money to replace them. We're 2 years overdue for a big draft pick OL, and we might need to trade up for that guy. I'm not sacrificing that for a rental who's a poor scheme fit.

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Why would he ever play without a new deal? Makes no sense. All the risk is on him

If your choices were (1) playing in Cincinnati on no deal versus (2) playing on the Eagles with no deal versus (3) sitting out the season, which door would you choose Monty?

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’ve been thinking about this more and I’m not sure how his first year applies to his free agency status. OTC says he’ll be a RFA and Spotrac says UFA. Based on how the rules are written I would assume he’s a UFA but if for some reason he’s a RFA he doesn’t count toward the comp pick formulas if Eagles don’t tender him. The cheapest tender for a RFA next year is projected around $3.5M

I will send Chris McPherson an e-mail asking him.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

If your choices were (1) playing in Cincinnati on no deal versus (2) playing on the Eagles with no deal versus (3) sitting out the season, which door would you choose Monty?

Cincinnati isn’t going to trade him anywhere for compensation that would be commensurate with a 1 year rental. Given what you’d have to give up (a day 2 pick plus some), you have to extend him. Plus, there’s ZERO chance he plays here without an extension.

You really need to give up this pipe dream.

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Cincinnati isn’t going to trade him anywhere for compensation that would be commensurate with a 1 year rental. Given what you’d have to give up (a day 2 pick plus some), you have to extend him. Plus, there’s ZERO chance he plays here without an extension.

You really need to give up this pipe dream.

Do you not understand the definition of "pimping”?

Greg Olsen having booth sex with Josh Allen...

He's cheating on Kyle Shanahan.

He's a "top guy" in the same way Chris Collinsworth has booth sex with Brady then Mahomes.

I like Metchie a lot. Gritty, good route runner, good hands. A natural WR unlike a lot of the guys we cycle through. Good WR3/4 type, but I really hope they keep Dotson.

I see Fox updated the ugly score bug from the Super Bowl.

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’ve been thinking about this more and I’m not sure how his first year applies to his free agency status. OTC says he’ll be a RFA and Spotrac says UFA. Based on how the rules are written I would assume he’s a UFA but if for some reason he’s a RFA he doesn’t count toward the comp pick formulas if Eagles don’t tender him. The cheapest tender for a RFA next year is projected around $3.5M

LMG, if this info from the Internet is correct it depends on whether he was on the PUP in year one or on the NFI. If NFI it would seem that the contract would "toll” and the Eagles would have him under contract for both 2025 and 2026. If that is the case, the trade makes a whole lot more sense.

"In the NFL, time spent on the Non-Football Injury/Illness (NFI) list generally

does not automatically count toward a player's vesting for benefits like pensions. 

Key points about NFI and vesting

• Credited Season Requirement: To be considered vested and eligible for benefits negotiated under the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), a player typically needs to accrue three or more credited seasons.

• Definition of Credited Season: A credited season is usually earned by being on the active, inactive, Injured Reserve (IR), or Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) roster for three or more regular or post-season games.

• NFI Exclusions: Time spent on the NFI list is typically not considered a "qualifying status" for earning a credited season towards vesting.

• Team Options and Negotiations: While the NFL is not obligated to pay a player's base salary while they are on the NFI list, the team and player can negotiate a payment arrangement.

• Contract Tolling: If a player on the NFI list in the last year of their contract (including option years) is not cleared by the team's sixth regular-season game and the team pays their prorated base salary, their contract may "toll," meaning the year would effectively not count toward the contract's completion. 

In summary, a player on the NFI list generally won't have that time count toward vesting for benefits, as NFI is for injuries or illnesses sustained outside of football activities. However, specific payment arrangements can be made between the player and team. ”

3 hours ago, Iggles25 said:

2026 RD2 pick + Metchie might just do it for a 1 year rental to another SB chip 🤣

The Bengals don’t need another WR. Ojulari instead of Metchie.

What I want from Greg Olsen

"Josh Allen is really playing QB at a high level"

"Josh Allen is coming off an MVP season"

What I get

"Josh Allen is just the bestest football player! Isn't he dreamy? I wish I was Hailee Steinfeld!"

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I've been accused to making Madden trade ideas, but I love to look at the players as assets. Right now, both Metchie and Dotson are on expiring contracts. Dotson isn't giving you more than 20 catches this year and there are teams out there that still might view him as WR2. Can you get a 3rd back for him? Metchie comes in and replaces his production. You keep Cooper, Wilson and Smith.

I’m not sure that Metchie is on an expiring contract. If his year one was officially designated as NFI the his contract may have tolled, and that would mean there are tw years to go, not one.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I’m not sure that Metchie is on an expiring contract. If his year one was officially designated as NFI the his contract may have tolled, and that would mean there are tw years to go, not one.

I think you are right. He had full pay (or some level of IR/NFI pay) and full medical, etc but he did not get a year on the roster.

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I’m not sure that Metchie is on an expiring contract. If his year one was officially designated as NFI the his contract may have tolled, and that would mean there are tw years to go, not one.

He was on NFI, so he is an RFA after the season. Which means he is a cheap replacement for Dotson in 2026.