1 hour ago, MF POON said:

I don't know why Mike thinks Herbert is more accurate, lol. Anyway, what I do know is that people will forever glaze Herbert for his potential and not on what he's actually done in the league. I agree with you, he can't carry a team and doesn't have the clutch gene.

Because he is

57 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

and my opinion is Darnold would have prevented them from winning based on his performances in the Vikings big games last season.

And you're allowed to have that opinion. It's just different from mine. He was the first that came to mind

panthers are releasing Clowney. He’d fit as a vet edge if he’s ring chasing

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

TLaw

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Random thought: who was the worst QB you think the Eagles could have started last year and still won the Super Bowl?

Using my QB rankings that I did in February I will go with Mayfield.

1. Lamar

2. Mahomes

3. Hurts

4. Burrow

5. Allen

6. Daniels

7. Stafford

8. Mayfield

9. Nix

10. Goff

11. Prescott

12. Purdy

13. Stroud

14. Herbert

15. Love

16. Tua

17. Murray

18. Rodgers

19. Darnold

20. Geno

21. Carr

22. Maye

23. Wilson

24. Lawrence

25. Young

26. Caleb

27. Penix

28. Cousins

29. Minshew

30. Richardson

31. Jones

32. Watson

33. Levis

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Using my QB rankings that I did in February I will go with Mayfield.

1. Lamar

2. Mahomes

3. Hurts

4. Burrow

5. Allen

6. Daniels

7. Stafford

8. Mayfield

9. Nix

10. Goff

11. Prescott

12. Purdy

13. Stroud

14. Herbert

15. Love

16. Tua

17. Murray

18. Rodgers

19. Darnold

20. Geno

21. Carr

22. Maye

23. Wilson

24. Lawrence

25. Young

26. Caleb

27. Penix

28. Cousins

29. Minshew

30. Richardson

31. Jones

32. Watson

33. Levis

Nix and Herbert and Wilson and a healthy Tua

23 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

panthers are releasing Clowney. He’d fit as a vet edge if he’s ring chasing

Hell no.

29 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

And you're allowed to have that opinion.

Clowney can eat a bag of deeks.

With no utensils.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Baker comes to mind first. Maybe Geno or Kyler.

Hurts played well. But he wasn't as determinative as being SB MVP would suggest.

The defense was the MVP of the game. Hurts played a fantastic game but the Chiefs were limited to 6 points. I do think we probably underrate his mobility as a factor in the game.

4 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Clowney can eat a bag of deeks.

With no utensils.

33 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd take the guy who was outside with a trash can over him

This is how you make sure your fans don't give a you know what. This season isn't even over and I'm already checked out for next year.

16 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

A few valid points here, but wildly off base take. Eli was absolutely lights out in one of the runs. Flacco, same (it was the retirement party for that D). Foles, same. Brady was the GOAT come playoffs. Arguably only Ben, Peyton and Russell were along for the ride. Then again Ben made one of the best throws in SB history to win his only true one that wasn’t rigged, beating the refs & the NFLs desire to have a feel good movie worthy story about Warner’s come back.

Eli was lights out during his second playoff run, but he would have never reached the SB if not for his defense. They didn't allow more than 20 points during the playoffs, they held the mighty Patriots to 17 total points. He had a dominant Plaxico in the first, prime Victor Cruz in the second.

Flacco should have never reached the AFC Championship game, the Broncos had already won it but the safety (forgot his name) couldn't field the football correctly in the (sort of) Hail Mary that tied the game with 40 seconds left.

My only point is: football is a team sport and no QB can carry his team from week 1 to the SB by himself. They've all had moments of luck, great players around them, excellent coaching or dominant defenses. Some of them, like Foles or Flacco, had their best games when it mattered the most and their performance helped tremendously. That said, nobody will ever claim that Flacco was better than Marino.

Just now, NCiggles said:

The defense was the MVP of the game. Hurts played a fantastic game but the Chiefs were limited to 6 points. I do think we probably underrate his mobility as a factor in the game.

Absolutely.

The one thing that they were really, really good at last year was shortening the game by possessing the ball as long as possible.

They ran the ball more than any other team (621, the next closest was Detroit with 554), and their time per possession was the seventh highest. Add those two things, and that really limited what the opposing team could do.

Of course, most of this happened after the bye.

Weeks 1-4

Pass Attempts Per Game 33

Rush Attempts Per Game 30

6-17

Pass Attempts Per Game 24

Rush Attempts Per Game 39

When they shifted to a run-heavy team and inserted Coop that is when things took off.

This is also why I have a problem with the "What If" game. Putting another QB on the Eagles may produce more stats, but can any of them put their ego aside to help the team win like Hurts does? Would Jackson, Allen, or Burrow be patient, allow the team to become a running team, rely on their defense, and limit the throws they make per game? I don't know if they could do that.

51 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Nix and Herbert and Wilson and a healthy Tua

Herbert? Ha! He's the biggest choke artist in the NFL right now come playoff time.

The new pope is a Villanova grad.

24 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

This is how you make sure your fans don't give a you know what. This season isn't even over and I'm already checked out for next year.

Strange choice of words considering how little running any of those guys did in 2024/25

5 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He did in LIV and would've in LIX had Mahomes not crapped the bed so spectacularly.

They lost LIV, so he didn't. He was very good, but he wasn't good enough that day. It was a 1 possession game and he had the only turnover... unforced. You could say he fumbled away that opportunity.

And I wouldn't call 22 passing attempts against 45 rushing attempts gunslinging in LIX.

5 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Once you do, you'll realize it's a pretty tough case to make to keep him out of the top-10. You'd basically have to project him having a career ending injury tomorrow to do it because on his current trajectory, he's easily top-5 let alone top-10.

Current trajectory, you are likely very right.

5 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

Which one of you assclowns started this latest Hurts debate?

Honestly, there was a Tweet asking the world, if you are starting over from scratch, who do you want at QB... Burrow or Allen? And some folks got bent out of shape that Hurts wasn't the answer.

31 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

This is how you make sure your fans don't give a you know what. This season isn't even over and I'm already checked out for next year.

You have to be f'ing kidding me. He is the worst owner in Philly that I can remember. DM should be on the f'ing curb and George and Embiid shouldn't be far behind. I hope he f's up DC just as bad.