43 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

In a passing league Howie put them in a bad spot. I'm not sure how they could have misread the Ringo situation so poorly unless he once again didn't chat with Vic which seems to be the pattern.

Feels like Ringo took a step back, for whatever reason. Not basing this opinion off much but he didn't seem that bad when he had to fill in last year. I think he very well could be in his own head given he was expected to take the job and run but hasn't. Trading for Bennett might have made it worse. Vic basically demoting him might be trying to give him a wake up call.

2 hours ago, Parrot Head said:

Still feels like a possible Devin White situation all over again

That is a real possibility

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Feels like Ringo took a step back, for whatever reason. Not basing this opinion off much but he didn't seem that bad when he had to fill in last year. I think he very well could be in his own head given he was expected to take the job and run but hasn't. Trading for Bennett might have made it worse. Vic basically demoting him might be trying to give him a wake up call.

Last year when he had to fill in he was playing within a game plan, and Vic could hide him as best he could. And he was surrounded by 10 really good players. This preseason he's been surrounded by virtually no one, there has been no game plan, and Vic has put him on an island to test him. He's not that guy.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Last year when he had to fill in he was playing within a game plan, and Vic could hide him as best he could. And he was surrounded by 10 really good players. This preseason he's been surrounded by virtually no one, there has been no game plan, and Vic has put him on an island to test him. He's not that guy.

I agree with the second part. I’m not sure Vic had a gameplan to hide Darius Slay or changed the gameplan much on the fly when Ringo had to come in for him. But it was also only like 100 snaps so the sample size likely wasn’t big enough.

38 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'd prefer Ricks honestly if he isn't starting. That's just me.

What is it about him that you like?

50 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

As far as physical traits, the prerequisites of the position have changed.

If the prerequisites have changed, how do you explain McKee?

56 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Everything is a need. I watched the last preseason game...

Negadelphianism never dies

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Negadelphianism never dies

1 hour ago, wussbasket said:

As more time passes with no real moves for CB2, I think they will just roll with Ringo/Bennett for week 1-2, and then bring in a vet after to avoid the guarantees.

Adoree offers no upside. He is what he is and he's not presumed to get any better than he currently is. Theoretically, Ringo/Bennett have some upside of possibility getting better with more reps. Vic will roll coverage to that side and leave Q on an island. CB2 will have help, but somebody needs to step up. I don't think that someone will be on the team until week 2.

Honestly if they have Q shadow the top receiver then we really only need CB2 to be serviceable. Not many teams have all pros at WR1 and WR2

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Teams overdraft QBs in the 1st round because it's a lottery spin as QB salaries go higher and higher. If you hit on a QB who starts in Year 1 or 2 it's like hitting the jackpot in a league with a hard salary cap. Jalen Hurts became proof-positive that the only thing better than hitting on a starting QB in the 1st round is hitting on one outside the first round later in the draft.

As far as physical traits, the prerequisites of the position have changed. EDGE rushers are faster now with greater bend, and most defensive coordinators prioritize disrupting the QB over finding shutdown players in the secondary. The QB now has to be able to move in addition to processing their reads quickly. If the play breaks down nowadays it's pretty much dead for the prototypical pocket passer. Having a dual-threat QB adds optionality to operate off-script plays.

Of course, it has to be a happy medium. Prospect evaluators err too much confusing a running QB with a true dual-threat QB. Richardson, for example, was never able to distribute the ball in the passing game -- yet, even in his first year at Florida there were posters in here singing his praise and salivating over him. He's never learned the position, and the Colts compounded a poor draft pick by starting him Week 1 of his rookie season (that, I'm pretty sure, was Irsay's decision).

Unless of course you're Burrow

Who will also have to score like 40pts to win

17 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If the prerequisites have changed, how do you explain McKee?

McKee has thrown 45 passes in his NFL career. Will he be able to maintain his level of play when he gets into must-win games and coordinators send exotic blitzes his way?

I sure hope so, but if he can he’ll be explained as an outlier in a 2025 NFL

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ricks sure does have some kind of fan club for a guy who has never done anything in the NFL.

He shut down Tyreek Hill, among others.

I'm thinking about my yearly 10 NFL predictions and one of the ones I was thinking about going with is the Seahawks could be one of the worst teams in the NFL. I don't think there's any chance Darnold plays as well as he did for the Vikings or plays as well as Geno has for the Seahawks the last few years. They got rid of Metcalf. I don't think their OL is very great. And I think their defense is pretty good, but not close to elite or anything. I think they will finish last in the division, and while I think they're most likely to win like 7 games, I think they're more likely to win like 5 games than they are 10 or 11 games. I think they could be one of those surprise teams that just has a really bad season.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ricks sure does have some kind of fan club for a guy who has never done anything in the NFL.

I couldn't care less if he's cut, but Jackson seems like an all or nothing guy to me. If he can't start then why waste a spot?

35 minutes ago, mattwill said:

What is it about him that you like?

Good on ST and plays fine in spot duties. I couldn't care less if he goes but I prefer him over Jackson if the latter can't lock down the starting role based on what Vic said a few weeks ago.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm thinking about my yearly 10 NFL predictions and one of the ones I was thinking about going with is the Seahawks could be one of the worst teams in the NFL. I don't think there's any chance Darnold plays as well as he did for the Vikings or plays as well as Geno has for the Seahawks the last few years. They got rid of Metcalf. I don't think their OL is very great. And I think their defense is pretty good, but not close to elite or anything. I think they will finish last in the division, and while I think they're most likely to win like 7 games, I think they're more likely to win like 5 games than they are 10 or 11 games. I think they could be one of those surprise teams that just has a really bad season.

Cowherd says the Chickens are winning that division

27 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Honestly if they have Q shadow the top receiver then we really only need CB2 to be serviceable. Not many teams have all pros at WR1 and WR2

Games like the Rams are going to be more difficult when MS is picking on the other side of the field all day. Last year also showed the importance of being 3 CB deep when injuries happened. Howie will do what he wants but it's important IMO for him to bring another one in. It's basically the only weakness on the team outside of depth at edge.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Cowherd says the Chickens are winning that division

In that case I’m officially going with that one now with utmost confidence.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ricks sure does have some kind of fan club for a guy who has never done anything in the NFL.

Not as bad as Ringo…

9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Games like the Rams are going to be more difficult when MS is picking on the other side of the field all day. Last year also showed the importance of being 3 CB deep when injuries happened. Howie will do what he wants but it's important IMO for him to bring another one in. It's basically the only weakness on the team outside of depth at edge.

Agreed but if Q is shadowing the top WR (as he's been reportedly practicing showing AJ) then we really only need someone who won't get burnt or beat majority of the time

Vic doing this should help us tremendously. It should also give Q more experience with the top WRs. Seems like a win win. If he can hone his skills and just lockdown the top WR then we're in great shape for the future

I'm so excited about his development

23 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I couldn't care less if he's cut, but Jackson seems like an all or nothing guy to me. If he can't start then why waste a spot?

Perhaps to be a steadying influence in the secondary room. That room is very very young right now. Maybe he's not that guy, I don't know, but it would be something he could bring. I think the next longest tenured guy in the secondary in the NFL is Reed Blankenship... at 4 years. It might help to have a vet around. But, maybe not him. 🤷‍♂️

15 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Not as bad as Ringo…

Not much of a defense.

Howie aggressively trying to add in all the areas except where we need help at.

10 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Howie aggressively trying to add in all the areas except where we need help at.

It's funny how that was our weakest position for years and Howie's like not anymore Fers lol

Some talent with a stick of chalk