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Just now, Diehardfan said:

Nope. I'm greedy and want everything like another CB and DE, though.

Odds are Howie adds a player not currently on the team. On CB tho I could see Bennett or McWilliams being the starter by mid season if not sooner

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54 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's not really as impressive as they are making it out to be. He was stealing 2nd, and had a huge jump, so he hit second base going full speed. He's fast, but what he just did isn't like the Bo Jackson throw from the left field wall in the air to the plate. It was pretty impressive though. Just not earth shattering.

Yeah, he scored from first on a double. Hardly unprecedented especially since he was on the run to begin with.

Just now, pgcd3 said:

Odds are Howie adds a player not currently on the team. On CB tho I could see Bennett or McWilliams being the starter by mid season if not sooner

Absolutely and they could grow into dawgs. I'm just greedy.

This draft could turn into a monster. At least one of the late OL will become good backups at minimum on top of the rest. So exciting.

LB, S, CB potential starters, solid backup LB and probably DT. Five contributors this year and possibly one or two more down the line. Oh, not counting the Nasty Nate WR.

42 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Drop the zero. Eagles finish Top 1 in Total Defense.

The Broncos are loaded and the Texans are going to be very good.

I expect Philly to be top 5 and in the mix for 1 but they will be very good no matter what the stats say.

29 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

The Broncos are loaded and the Texans are going to be very good.

I expect Philly to be top 5 and in the mix for 1 but they will be very good no matter what the stats say.

'Hide your kids, hide your wife....they gonna find you...'

Insert meme because my phone disallows it now

The 2025 Eagles Defense ladies, gentlemen, and those figuring it out

39 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

The Broncos are loaded and the Texans are going to be very good.

I expect Philly to be top 5 and in the mix for 1 but they will be very good no matter what the stats say.

On the one hand that’s a pragmatic approach, on the other….

Did you know our D was so good last year that #2 was closer to #22 than they were to us?

One Score Games where the opponent scores 23+

Joe Burrow

6-12

Jake Browning with the bad version of the same team (21/31 ranked D in 2023)

2-0

14 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

On the one hand that’s a pragmatic approach, on the other….

Did you know our D was so good last year that #2 was closer to #22 than they were to us?

In yards allowed, yes. its pretty crazy

Its also crazy that the first team that did not suck was the Packers at 5

The Titans were 2nd in yards allowed because teams were too busy laughing. they gave up 160 more points than the Eagles as the #2 yards allowed team.

The Jets were not much better.

The Eagles stats were even better after the bye when DeJean got into the lineup.

366 per game before the bye, 252 per game after.

Their 1 area they did not dominate was sack totals at just over 2 a game. They averaged 4 per game in the playoffs.

My expectation right now is that this defense will give up more yards and points than last season, but also generate more turnvoers.

A lot of opportunistic athletes in the back 7.

This defense has lots of talent all around. My biggest worry is the depth, especially on the D-line. Smith has really improved, but also seems prone to injury. Hunt is still unproven as a starter. As a whole, last year’s line appears stronger if you consider the backups IMO. A positive should be that the players are even more comfortable working in the Fangio system. If we can avoid the injury bug, we should be around top 5 or not far off of that group.

13 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

A measured take by Berman. There were doubts about the defense at this time last year.

Disagree

My biggest worry is still Hurt consistency.

He played amazing in the SB, reminded me of the 2022 Hurts that took usto the SB.

My concern is his consistency. Regular season last year was not good for him. Our offense success was the run game. Hurts struggled in many games throwing the ball and lead to run heavy second half

So my biggest look out will be if Hurts shows more consistency with how he played in 2022 and last years SB or back to 2023/reg season 24 Hurts.

13 hours ago, Joe Ball said:

alright...enough already, some wealthy DAL fan needs to hire a hitman to take out the whole damn family so there are none of the Arkansas, three tooth, bib overall wearing, Jones' family left to run the organization. Enough is enough.

Why, I enjoy watching the Jones family run the Cowgirls. I honestly hope Jerry lives forever. Great time for AI to work with installing his brain in a robot and keep running those girls as a mediocre team at best.

23 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Disagree

My biggest worry is still Hurt consistency.

He played amazing in the SB, reminded me of the 2022 Hurts that took usto the SB.

My concern is his consistency. Regular season last year was not good for him. Our offense success was the run game. Hurts struggled in many games throwing the ball and lead to run heavy second half

So my biggest look out will be if Hurts shows more consistency with how he played in 2022 and last years SB or back to 2023/reg season 24 Hurts.

The preseason would prove nothing for Hurts, either way

I'm kind of confused why the OL depth is so bad. The Eagles have Jeff Stoutland and have been doing an incredible job at identifying talent as of late. How can their depth be so poor?

Kendall Lamm hasn't shown to be an upgrade over Fred Johnson. Give me Big Fred 10 out of 10 times. He was a terrific locker room guy too.

Kenyon Green is a bust.

Brett Toth is the Jaggiest of JAGS but the Eagles love him.

Matt Pryor says you think Toth is a JAG, look at me!

Darian Kinnard might be...serviceable?

Myles Hinton has potential, but you have to reallly squint to see it. He looks like garbage most of the time.

Drew Kendall looks to be their best backup OL at this point. I like his potential.

Trevor Keegan can't seem to figure it out. I thought he was an eventual starter, but he's advancing as I thought.

Cameron Williams yikes.

Hollin Pierce might be PS material at best.

Maybe 2-3 guys worth keeping if that.

32 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Disagree

My biggest worry is still Hurt consistency.

He played amazing in the SB, reminded me of the 2022 Hurts that took usto the SB.

My concern is his consistency. Regular season last year was not good for him. Our offense success was the run game. Hurts struggled in many games throwing the ball and lead to run heavy second half

So my biggest look out will be if Hurts shows more consistency with how he played in 2022 and last years SB or back to 2023/reg season 24 Hurts.

I disagree. Situational football is why we were run heavy in the second half. We usually were leading games by then and our defense was strong. Hurts' overall passing stats reflect fewer overall attempts, not lower averages per attempt. In fact, he had his highest TD%, highest yards per attempt, 2nd lowest INT% (despite those first four games where certain fans panicked), and produced his highest passer rating.

Some fans look at the run stats and want to use it to knock the passing. It was part of a gameplan that produced a championship season. Arguably, the defense benefitted the most by the run game. If we didn't have such production in the run, would the defense have had as much rest and been able to play as well as they did? See the Tampa game for your answer.

9 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Absolutely and they could grow into dawgs. I'm just greedy.

This draft could turn into a monster. At least one of the late OL will become good backups at minimum on top of the rest. So exciting.

LB, S, CB potential starters, solid backup LB and probably DT. Five contributors this year and possibly one or two more down the line. Oh, not counting the Nasty Nate WR.

Too short signted. With all the unlnowns you dont mortgage the next three to five years for one more shot. Howie learned this after the first title thankfully.

The two trades made were very smart with minimal cost/risk

12 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I disagree. Situational football is why we were run heavy in the second half. We usually were leading games by then and our defense was strong. Hurts' overall passing stats reflect fewer overall attempts, not lower averages per attempt. In fact, he had his highest TD%, highest yards per attempt, 2nd lowest INT% (despite those first four games where certain fans panicked), and produced his highest passer rating.

Some fans look at the run stats and want to use it to knock the passing. It was part of a gameplan that produced a championship season. Arguably, the defense benefitted the most by the run game. If we didn't have such production in the run, would the defense have had as much rest and been able to play as well as they did? See the Tampa game for your answer.

Yep and honestly even with vets the less you do something as a team that season the less polished you'll be at it. And the Eagles just didn't need to pass that much last season so they generally weren't as polished as they'd have been if they'd have been racking up the attempts throughout the season. Biggest thing is they were able to turn it on when they needed to at the end

13 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm kind of confused why the OL depth is so bad. The Eagles have Jeff Stoutland and have been doing an incredible job at identifying talent as of late. How can their depth be so poor?

Kendall Lamm hasn't shown to be an upgrade over Fred Johnson. Give me Big Fred 10 out of 10 times. He was a terrific locker room guy too.

Kenyon Green is a bust.

Brett Toth is the Jaggiest of JAGS but the Eagles love him.

Matt Pryor says you think Toth is a JAG, look at me!

Darian Kinnard might be...serviceable?

Myles Hinton has potential, but you have to reallly squint to see it. He looks like garbage most of the time.

Drew Kendall looks to be their best backup OL at this point. I like his potential.

Trevor Keegan can't seem to figure it out. I thought he was an eventual starter, but he's advancing as I thought.

Cameron Williams yikes.

Hollin Pierce might be PS material at best.

Maybe 2-3 guys worth keeping if that.

I know I’m talking about spilled milk, but that’s why I thought keeping Becton was a top priority. Would have been equal to the offense as Baun was to the D. With Dickerson missing time, Juergens and Lane also susceptible to getting nicked up, we really couldn’t afford to lose a quality lineman, who’s not really getting paid a ton of money.

So the Eagles have 13 picks in the 2026 draft with like 7 in the first four rounds......this is an incredible opportunity to add low cost players with massive defensive contracts upcoming. But even then, I don't see them keeping all 13 picks. I could see Howie identifying positions needing upgrading during the season and making in-season trades and/or.....could see situations where Howie trades a 4th rounder in the draft for a future 3rd type situation. Or even using picks to trade up to secure a player they want. I guess what I'm saying is, for a team with a lot of top heavy contracts/players with more coming, we are in a fantastic position for the 2026 draft and this team should be very good for the next 4 to 5 years.

I remember back in the 80's and 90's where 2 Super Bowl Victories and 3 Super Bowls in like 8 years would have been a wet dream. I mean, we are worrying right now about CB2, Safety and DE depth but we have 9 players in the top 69 players in the NFL (as voted by the players).

This really is an extraordinary time to be an Eagles fan and definitely one (going back to my youth) that I NEVER thought I'd see. 2 weeks away from football!!! Cannot wait!

29 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm kind of confused why the OL depth is so bad. The Eagles have Jeff Stoutland and have been doing an incredible job at identifying talent as of late. How can their depth be so poor?

Kendall Lamm hasn't shown to be an upgrade over Fred Johnson. Give me Big Fred 10 out of 10 times. He was a terrific locker room guy too.

Kenyon Green is a bust.

Brett Toth is the Jaggiest of JAGS but the Eagles love him.

Matt Pryor says you think Toth is a JAG, look at me!

Darian Kinnard might be...serviceable?

Myles Hinton has potential, but you have to reallly squint to see it. He looks like garbage most of the time.

Drew Kendall looks to be their best backup OL at this point. I like his potential.

Trevor Keegan can't seem to figure it out. I thought he was an eventual starter, but he's advancing as I thought.

Cameron Williams yikes.

Hollin Pierce might be PS material at best.

Maybe 2-3 guys worth keeping if that.

OL will have to be a focus in the 26 draft

Maybe a safety too as i think Reed will be a cap casualty. Cb2 if Bennett doesnt work out. I mean edge and corner are always high priority for every team

Carter will get paid. Smith likely too. Davis is the wildcard.

10 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The new look logo is sort of the shape of a barrel (on its side).

I don't understand why successful brands are pandering to today's young people. If your business attracts old people, you'll never run out of customers because people are always aging. This was the reason for the marketing shift that sunk Bud Light. Young people are constantly transitioning into old people --- it's science.

A company I worked at would do this every year to18 months. It was a combination of Marketing having nothing to do so it was just busy work, and their latest new leader wanting their stamp on the company. Didn't care about external perception or how much they dumped on others to rebrand the rebrand of the last rebrand.

And every time they were sensitive when asked why

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

Disagree

My biggest worry is still Hurt consistency.

He played amazing in the SB, reminded me of the 2022 Hurts that took usto the SB.

My concern is his consistency. Regular season last year was not good for him. Our offense success was the run game. Hurts struggled in many games throwing the ball and lead to run heavy second half

So my biggest look out will be if Hurts shows more consistency with how he played in 2022 and last years SB or back to 2023/reg season 24 Hurts.

I think it was more mediocre than not good. There were bad games and games where they just didn't need to pass the ball, so they didn't. I think what that gets to is Hurts' best quality. He cares about winning. I would like them to be more efficient. It would be great if passes for 5,000 yards and 50TDs. I just don't think that's ultimately what they are going to need to do to win games.

One thing that kind of confuses me about the apparent plan on defense is using DeJean on the outside in base and then moving him inside in nickel. If he can play outside, why not just match him up on the other teams no. 2 receiver, and let whomever wins the third CB competition match up on the no. 3? I would take my chances with Jackson against jalen Tolbert or Noah Brown as opposed to George Pickens or Deebo Samuel. Once he shows he can play outside, it doesn't make sense to put him inside if he could take away an opponents no. 2 target.

7 hours ago, austinfan said:

My expectation right now is that this defense will give up more yards and points than last season, but also generate more turnvoers.

A lot of opportunistic athletes in the back 7.

Those are reasonable expectations. I would add (for the Offense) that they will score more points. They averaged 27.2 points per game (26.0 from the Offense). I expect that to be over 30 this season. They averaged 29.0 after the Bye last season.

2 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

My biggest worry is still Hurt consistency.

He played amazing in the SB, reminded me of the 2022 Hurts that took usto the SB.

My concern is his consistency. Regular season last year was not good for him. Our offense success was the run game. Hurts struggled in many games throwing the ball and lead to run heavy second half

Regarding your last paragraph, was Hurts actually inconsistent? The run-centric game plans reduced his passing statistics, as did the substantial margins the Eagles built up on the scoreboard, but do reduced passing statistics mean he was inconsistent?

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