6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Those are reasonable expectations. I would add (for the Offense) that they will score more points. They averaged 27.2 points per game (26.0 from the Offense). I expect that to be over 30 this season. They averaged 29.0 after the Bye last season.

Idk, but 30 might be a bit rich IMO. They’re playing some good defenses & I would expect some lower scoring games in general.

16 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

One thing that kind of confuses me about the apparent plan on defense is using DeJean on the outside in base and then moving him inside in nickel. If he can play outside, why not just match him up on the other teams no. 2 receiver, and let whomever wins the third CB competition match up on the no. 3? I would take my chances with Jackson against jalen Tolbert or Noah Brown as opposed to George Pickens or Deebo Samuel. Once he shows he can play outside, it doesn't make sense to put him inside if he could take away an opponents no. 2 target.

What you have described is Man coverage, but Fangio uses predominantly Zone coverage. In Fangio’s 4-2-5 deployments DeJean is free to read and react to the QB rather than reading and reacting to the receiver entering one of the Boundary Quarter zones.

9 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

Idk, but 30 might be a bit rich IMO. They’re playing some good defenses & I would expect some lower scoring games in general.

You may be right.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

What you have described is Man coverage, but Fangio uses predominantly Zone coverage. In Fangio’s 4-2-5 deployments DeJean is free to read and react to the QB rather than reading and reacting to the receiver entering one of the Boundary Quarter zones.

I dont think playing Cooper outside prevents the Eagles from playing zone.

11 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The new look logo is sort of the shape of a barrel (on its side).

I don't understand why successful brands are pandering to today's young people. If your business attracts old people, you'll never run out of customers because people are always aging. This was the reason for the marketing shift that sunk Bud Light. Young people are constantly transitioning into old people --- it's science.

Old folks don't spend as much money going out as young folks. Old folks already have brand loyalty and won't give a hoot if the logo is changed. To survive, they have to turn younger adults into brand loyal older adults.

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Too short signted. With all the unlnowns you dont mortgage the next three to five years for one more shot. Howie learned this after the first title thankfully.

The two trades made were very smart with minimal cost/risk

What are you talking about? First they have ton of picks. Second I never said TH from the Bengals. We agree not to make moves to mortgage the future but as the two he made show that's not the only option. I've said it a few times but I'd be happy with a Chris Long type of vet who can contribute. Better than what they have and won't cost a ton.

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

I dont think playing Cooper outside prevents the Eagles from playing zone.

I agree, but in your description you said "let whomever wins the third CB competition match up on the no. 3.” It’s hard to play zone when all three of your CBs are in Man matchups.

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Old folks don't spend as much money going out as young folks. Old folks already have brand loyalty and won't give a hoot if the logo is changed. To survive, they have to turn younger adults into brand loyal older adults.

Agreed 100%.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I'm kind of confused why the OL depth is so bad. The Eagles have Jeff Stoutland and have been doing an incredible job at identifying talent as of late. How can their depth be so poor?

Kendall Lamm hasn't shown to be an upgrade over Fred Johnson. Give me Big Fred 10 out of 10 times. He was a terrific locker room guy too.

Kenyon Green is a bust.

Brett Toth is the Jaggiest of JAGS but the Eagles love him.

Matt Pryor says you think Toth is a JAG, look at me!

Darian Kinnard might be...serviceable?

Myles Hinton has potential, but you have to reallly squint to see it. He looks like garbage most of the time.

Drew Kendall looks to be their best backup OL at this point. I like his potential.

Trevor Keegan can't seem to figure it out. I thought he was an eventual starter, but he's advancing as I thought.

Cameron Williams yikes.

Hollin Pierce might be PS material at best.

Maybe 2-3 guys worth keeping if that.

Tbh 4 of those guys you mentioned are rookies in Hinton, Kendall, Williams and Pierce. We knew with Williams it was going to take time but he had big upside. Hinton it likely would also take time and Pierce was Udfa that had upside with stoutland teaching him. Only one i thought that was ready to play in the NFL coming into the league was Kendall. Don’t think he’d be great but could be serviceable at center if jurgens got hurt. Pryor is fine as a backup. He’s had starting experience and can be ok for a week or two.

I have nothing in Toth. Hes been in the league for 5-6 years and tbh he’s a JAG but stoutland likes him. Green stinks. I think that was he was a highly touted prospect and they hoped stoutland could do something like he did with becton. Which he’s more like a worse version of chance warmack. Imo lamm is basically a one year stop gap until pierce or williams are ready. Kinnard probably is always a journeyman who has extremely good luck charm with winning SBs

I actually think next year if stoutland does what he does that your backup situation looks much different. I think this year is a transition year. I also don’t think it is set with those guys. Wouldn’t be shocked during cuts if the eagles add someone that’s currently on someone else’s roster

9 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Old folks don't spend as much money going out as young folks. Old folks already have brand loyalty and won't give a hoot if the logo is changed. To survive, they have to turn younger adults into brand loyal older adults.

From the replies on social media it's not just the logo so much as another CEO trying to screw up her brand. They evidently are remodeling as well along with some posts supporting things we don't need to get into in this section. Younger people who went with their parents will continue going there without a logo change and remodel. They have been in business for a long time. Don't make moves that loses customers.

12 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I was actually thinking about getting my parents a set of cracker barrel rocking chairs as a retirement present. My mom is retired already and my dad will be in October.

Now I dont know if I can do it.

They've already changed the logo on their web site. If you are serious about buying rocking chairs, you might not want to dally.

33 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

What are you talking about? First they have ton of picks. Second I never said TH from the Bengals. We agree not to make moves to mortgage the future but as the two he made show that's not the only option. I've said it a few times but I'd be happy with a Chris Long type of vet who can contribute. Better than what they have and won't cost a ton.

Saying they are better than what we have is all

Assumption. Its fear driven what ifs and we dont know costs but need to be shrewd in cap and dead money

Tommy Lawlor posted the following summary of the just completed Training Camp. I tend to agree with him.

Overall vibes – This was a bit of an odd camp. There were no major injuries, but players were coming and going with minor issues. There were also plenty of rest days for key veterans. The Eagles got outplayed in the joint practices and then struggled in the Browns preseason game. If you wanted to see a smooth machine, this wasn’t the summer for you. The coaches were trying to find and develop depth. That meant a lot of young guys played and they had ups and downs. Working on depth may have made for a sloppy summer, but it could serve the team well in the season when the depth will be needed.

Looking ahead news

21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Saying they are better than what we have is all

Assumption. Its fear driven what ifs and we dont know costs but need to be shrewd in cap and dead money

I spent most of the original post talking about how exciting the draft was and you took here 😂

Yeah, as I said I'm a greedy fan and would love another DE. That isn't fear driven holy hell. Nobody said break the bank or the season is doomed.

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

Old folks don't spend as much money going out as young folks. Old folks already have brand loyalty and won't give a hoot if the logo is changed. To survive, they have to turn younger adults into brand loyal older adults.

I don't know that Cracker Barrel was ever a "going out" destination or is likely to be. I hope they don't make the mistake that Sears made with their "softer side of Sears" campaign.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

One thing that kind of confuses me about the apparent plan on defense is using DeJean on the outside in base and then moving him inside in nickel. If he can play outside, why not just match him up on the other teams no. 2 receiver, and let whomever wins the third CB competition match up on the no. 3? I would take my chances with Jackson against jalen Tolbert or Noah Brown as opposed to George Pickens or Deebo Samuel. Once he shows he can play outside, it doesn't make sense to put him inside if he could take away an opponents no. 2 target.

Because DeJean is special as a slot DB. There just aren’t many guys who can cover like a lockdown corner AND support the run like a 220 pound safety from the inside like he can. Usually you are lucky to get one of those traits in a slot DB, but he does both at an extremely high level. That’s where he’s most valuable.

On top of that, who do you then put in the slot if the other team puts both their guys out wide? Almost all our other corners are more so boundary guys, so they’d be very miscast inside. And then if you put Mac on the field what happens when he gets ISOd outside against some 6’4” 220 pound guy?

It’s all about matchups and one of the advantages the defense has is it’s able to dictate those matchups to a large extent.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Looking ahead news

Emeke Egbuke is gonna eat in that offense until Godwin comes back. I'm guessing he'll be an early contender for ROTY.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I'm kind of confused why the OL depth is so bad. The Eagles have Jeff Stoutland and have been doing an incredible job at identifying talent as of late. How can their depth be so poor?

Kendall Lamm hasn't shown to be an upgrade over Fred Johnson. Give me Big Fred 10 out of 10 times. He was a terrific locker room guy too.

Kenyon Green is a bust.

Brett Toth is the Jaggiest of JAGS but the Eagles love him.

Matt Pryor says you think Toth is a JAG, look at me!

Darian Kinnard might be...serviceable?

Myles Hinton has potential, but you have to reallly squint to see it. He looks like garbage most of the time.

Drew Kendall looks to be their best backup OL at this point. I like his potential.

Trevor Keegan can't seem to figure it out. I thought he was an eventual starter, but he's advancing as I thought.

Cameron Williams yikes.

Hollin Pierce might be PS material at best.

Maybe 2-3 guys worth keeping if that.

Williams has looked overmatched. Green may be a PS candidate because of his pedigree but there's no way he should be on the team. I think Pryor and Toth are below average replacements. I think in a scheme Stoutland will look for ways to help them out. I think Hinton has shown potential. He looks like a better OG than OT. I like Kendall. Keegan hasn't shown anything.

3 hours ago, jsb235 said:

One thing that kind of confuses me about the apparent plan on defense is using DeJean on the outside in base and then moving him inside in nickel. If he can play outside, why not just match him up on the other teams no. 2 receiver, and let whomever wins the third CB competition match up on the no. 3? I would take my chances with Jackson against jalen Tolbert or Noah Brown as opposed to George Pickens or Deebo Samuel. Once he shows he can play outside, it doesn't make sense to put him inside if he could take away an opponents no. 2 target.

Cooper's biggest strength is his ability to navigate traffic and tackle. He negates the offenses advantage running the ball against a smaller front. He is better able to play against screens and short passes from the NB position.

45 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Emeke Egbuke is gonna eat in that offense until Godwin comes back. I'm guessing he'll be an early contender for ROTY.

They are going to need him to because Jalen McMillian is also hurt and going to miss a lot of time

UGH