2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Must be eager to but the 'I' back for his father and himself

Campbell looked better in 11 than 30, but he was never getting AJ's number.

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Weird number for Jihaad.

Freshman number.

24 is a good number for Mukuba. He becomes even more the favorite to start with that number. 95 very solid for Ty Rob.

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Freshman number.

Does that mean he's going to change in sophomore season after AJ is traded to the Pats?

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

McNabb was a choker through and through. He had the best player on the field that also happened to be a WR in the Super Bowl yet continually did his best to give the game away throughout.

In the Panthers NFC Championship Game, when Koy Detmer came in he immediately began moving down the field that McNabb couldn't do anything with all game.

McNabb made some bad mistakes which cost the Eagles in games. He also had worse than average receivers. I just don't think you could put Hurts on those teams and expect a different outcome.

Oh cool, Jersey number analysis!

Howie wants to take June off.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Halfway there. The other day 3 guys should be quick.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Halfway there. The other day 3 guys should be quick.

The rest of the picks are holding out 😀

21 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

McNabb made some bad mistakes which cost the Eagles in games. He also had worse than average receivers. I just don't think you could put Hurts on those teams and expect a different outcome.

Blasphemy! Hurts would win on any team

Welp we had a good run. This is a clear sign of the start of a downward spiral

It's Brandon Graham day, so the sports gods will let it slide.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Freshman number.

Best number 30 since Mort Landsberg.

42 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

McNabb made some bad mistakes which cost the Eagles in games. He also had worse than average receivers. I just don't think you could put Hurts on those teams and expect a different outcome.

And there is the crux; were the WRs bad, or did McNabb make them look bad? Or was it a combination of both?

I mean, McNabb did have a couple of years with Westbrook/McCoy, Jackson, Maclin, and Celek. Those are not bad weapons to have. Hurts would have made that work.

45 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Oh cool, Jersey number analysis!

Just now, pallidrone said:

And there is the crux; were the WRs bad, or did McNabb make them look bad? Or was it a combination of both?

I mean, McNabb did have a couple of years with Westbrook/McCoy, Jackson, Maclin, and Celek. Those are not bad weapons to have. Hurts would have made that work.

Seeing how Thrash went back to Washington and was the 5th receiver after being #1 here, Pinkston and Mitchell never played again after Philly (Pinkston did tear his Achilles, but never came back), the evidence is pretty clear that the WRs sucked.

McNabb took those 3 to 3 straight NFC Championship games. 2000-2004 McNabb was elite and carried the team along with the defense.

34 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Welp we had a good run. This is a clear sign of the start of a downward spiral

For context, WIP is holding "Brandon Graham Appreciation Day" on 5/5. So, its not some harbinger of things to come.

20 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Best number 30 since Mort Landsberg.

I really really dislike the new jersey number rules.

17 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

And there is the crux; were the WRs bad, or did McNabb make them look bad? Or was it a combination of both?

I mean, McNabb did have a couple of years with Westbrook/McCoy, Jackson, Maclin, and Celek. Those are not bad weapons to have. Hurts would have made that work.

Early career, they were bad. Later career, they were finally upgraded to average.

But, Charles Johnson, Torrence Small, James Thrash, Greg Lewis... they were bad.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Seeing how Thrash went back to Washington and was the 5th receiver after being #1 here, Pinkston and Mitchell never played again after Philly (Pinkston did tear his Achilles, but never came back), the evidence is pretty clear that the WRs sucked.

McNabb took those 3 to 3 straight NFC Championship games. 2000-2004 McNabb was elite and carried the team along with the defense.

Hey, I don't disagree with you. Don't take my words as trying to disparage McNabb. McNabb helped turn this entire franchise around, and maybe if they had supported him earlier in his career, he might have become a Hall of Famer. He was elite for some time there.

However, I do think that a Hurts may have been able to make some of it work. They did have Westbrook, who was amazing. They had Celek, who was an all-pro TE. They had an awesome defense. While the WRs were below average, maybe with the right QB and the right scheme, they could have gotten more out of them.

How many worm burners did we see from McNabb? How many times did he gun it into the WR when it was not necessary? Hurts seems to play with so much more touch. He can hit a WR in stride, where I don't remember McNabb necessarily doing that, or at least doing that consistently.

McNabb was an LB playing quarterback and could take the hits that came with running the ball, whereas Hurts is not.

McNabb also played in a different time when the CBs could interfere with the WRs. That rule changed in 2004 and eventually led to better WR play. Would Hurts have been able to deal with that?

I wonder how much Lurie is charging WIP to be on their show. Should help with his cash problems though.

Any discussion about a Hurts vs McNabb legacy provides Exhibit A of how important a surrounding cast is for almost any QB. If he wasn't in Pittsburgh, I doubt anyone would remember Terry Bradshaw. Aikman wouldn't be remembered the same way if not for those DAL teams with Jimmy Johnson. Even Joe Montana likely would have had a much different career had he not been in SF with Bill Walsh; yes, he was very good in KC, but he brought all that experience and confidence with him.

When all is said and done, Hurts is well on his way to climbing the all-time Eagles QB list (it's not a great list). At this point, Hurts will be remembered for two very good Super Bowl performances, while McNabb will be remembered for puking on the field in his -- he was much better in the Super Bowl loss than he was in those NFCCG losses to CAR and TB (where he was dreadfully bad in both). Even the ARI loss he had a very poor start -- IIRC, the Eagles were down 24-6 before McNabb woke up.

I don't rank either of Hurts' Super Bowl performances as highly as Foles', though. I think that BDN performance in SB LII to give the Eagles their first Super Bowl will be very hard for anyone to match.