On 6/24/2026 at 7:42 AM, CouchKing said:

Would you trade Tanner McKee for a bag of balls and a Taco Bell Luxe Cravings Box (serves 1-2) ?

Yes, you would.

Because if Tanner McKee can't beat out 38 year old Andy Dalton then he's not the answer, not here, not anywhere.

So, picking up Andy Dalton may have solved the backup QB problem, it revealed the truth about Tanner McKee as the Eagles backup QB and absolutely tanked the Tanner McKee trade market.

At least some of the reports out of OTAs had McKee outperforming Andy Dalton. Yes I know Dalton looked like #2 when reporters were present. Reporters were not present at all sessions and reports were that McKee 'started' those sessions. Why would the Eagles feature Dalton when Reporters were present and start McKee when they weren't? I doubt Howie and Nick do much without a reason. I have no idea what that reason might be.

Some people are REALLY delusional about what/who Tanner McKee. He's a nice story being a late round pick who developed into an NFL QB. However, anyone who wouldn't take a 3rd round pick for him (let alone a 2nd) are insane. If someone offered a conditional 4 that could become a 3 based on playing time or something of that nature I would take it in a heartbeat.

On 6/25/2026 at 12:16 PM, eglz1 said:

At least some of the reports out of OTAs had McKee outperforming Andy Dalton. Yes I know Dalton looked like #2 when reporters were present. Reporters were not present at all sessions and reports were that McKee 'started' those sessions. Why would the Eagles feature Dalton when Reporters were present and start McKee when they weren't? I doubt Howie and Nick do much without a reason. I have no idea what that reason might be.

Maybe nothing more than to see where each QB is at and how they would perform in the new offense. If Dalton is capable to hold down as QB2 and stands in for Hurts in couple of games, trading McKee would make sense, as he would bring back some draft capital. Meanwhile give the rookie time to learn and develop, and see if he could play down the road. In this scenario, next off-season they have to make decision on Hurts and/or what high quality QB to bring in.

On 7/3/2026 at 4:33 PM, Penn7980 said:

Maybe nothing more than to see where each QB is at and how they would perform in the new offense. If Dalton is capable to hold down as QB2 and stands in for Hurts in couple of games, trading McKee would make sense, as he would bring back some draft capital. Meanwhile give the rookie time to learn and develop, and see if he could play down the road. In this scenario, next off-season they have to make decision on Hurts and/or what high quality QB to bring in.

Down the road when? If they extend Hurts like many think they will, McKee will never see any real playing time here. You can draft his replacement or sign a guy in FA easily. It's better to take the 2nd round pick and get a player that will actually see the field and contribute.

On 7/10/2026 at 12:57 PM, MF POON said:

Down the road when? If they extend Hurts like many think they will, McKee will never see any real playing time here. You can draft his replacement or sign a guy in FA easily. It's better to take the 2nd round pick and get a player that will actually see the field and contribute.

What 2nd round pick?

16 hours ago, brkmsn said:

What 2nd round pick?

Isn't this thread all about a hypothetical 2nd round pick? I don't think he'll go for that, obviously

On 7/10/2026 at 3:57 PM, MF POON said:

Down the road when? If they extend Hurts like many think they will, McKee will never see any real playing time here. You can draft his replacement or sign a guy in FA easily. It's better to take the 2nd round pick and get a player that will actually see the field and contribute.

I do wonder if extending Hurts is a likely outcome or are they planning to monitor his performance in the new offense before making any decisions. There was some chatter about that earlier this offseason, but obviously there is so much nonsense that starts and spreads like wildfire. But there does seem to be some logic to waiting ... he does have limitations that may limit him in the new scheme.

58 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I do wonder if extending Hurts is a likely outcome or are they planning to monitor his performance in the new offense before making any decisions. There was some chatter about that earlier this offseason, but obviously there is so much nonsense that starts and spreads like wildfire. But there does seem to be some logic to waiting ... he does have limitations that may limit him in the new scheme.

Is that chatter mostly from fans? Cos I don't see anything from the FO that makes me believe they aren't committed to Hurts. Why would you be shaky about a guy that's taken you to the playoffs every year as a starter, been to 2 SB's, and won one? With the roster they have they're built to win it all for a few seasons, so throwing in an unknown at the QB position is a very risky move.

I think Hurts is fine even if he doesn't have an exceptional year in the offensive scheme. It's also odd that people think it's a make-or-break year for Hurts, when generally every QB is usually given a pass in their first year in a new scheme.

58 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Is that chatter mostly from fans? Cos I don't see anything from the FO that makes me believe they aren't committed to Hurts. Why would you be shaky about a guy that's taken you to the playoffs every year as a starter, been to 2 SB's, and won one? With the roster they have they're built to win it all for a few seasons, so throwing in an unknown at the QB position is a very risky move.

I think Hurts is fine even if he doesn't have an exceptional year in the offensive scheme. It's also odd that people think it's a make-or-break year for Hurts, when generally every QB is usually given a pass in their first year in a new scheme.

There was talk earlier that members of the FO and coaching staff had some issues with Hurts (unwilling to do certain things, etc.). Not sure if the source was legit (as mentioned in the previous response, there is a lot of nonsense that gets spread). I am a huge Hurts fan but can also see where there may be truth to those rumors and wanting to see how he plays within the new scheme before committing huge $ to him even longer term.

38 minutes ago, time2rock said:

There was talk earlier that members of the FO and coaching staff had some issues with Hurts (unwilling to do certain things, etc.). Not sure if the source was legit (as mentioned in the previous response, there is a lot of nonsense that gets spread). I am a huge Hurts fan but can also see where there may be truth to those rumors and wanting to see how he plays within the new scheme before committing huge $ to him even longer term.

That's not what we have actually heard from current and former coaches of Jalen Hurts. Considering 2 former OCs went on to become HCs and 3 OCs and 1 HC were fired, there should be at least one quote from one of them (not to mention the other coaches that worked with him here) that would validate the claim, but there is not. In fact, they have all stated the opposite.

I believe the reason we haven't seen sizeable changes to the offensive scheme with Jalen Hurts is because of our winning percentage.

23 hours ago, time2rock said:

I do wonder if extending Hurts is a likely outcome or are they planning to monitor his performance in the new offense before making any decisions. There was some chatter about that earlier this offseason, but obviously there is so much nonsense that starts and spreads like wildfire. But there does seem to be some logic to waiting ... he does have limitations that may limit him in the new scheme.

If your starting QB is struggling in the offense as designed, how do you assess who's not doing their job right in that scenario, the QB that's been to the play offs 5 years straight or the guy who designed the offense? I just don't understand the logic of thinking Mannion having assessed the players at his disposal will waste a season by designing an offense that deliberately exposes the main component as a problem to prove a point, because there's no guarantee you're going to be able to get a plug and play replacement in draft or trade (at least not without ponying up a lot of picks) or survive in the job if your offense sucks.

In fact I'd be pissed if the team did that, I'd far rather if you don't think Hurts is up to a new offense, don't mess around with whispering campaigns and wasting a season, have the courage of your conviction and trade him and put in someone you think can do it.

1 hour ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

If your starting QB is struggling in the offense as designed, how do you assess who's not doing their job right in that scenario, the QB that's been to the play offs 5 years straight or the guy who designed the offense? I just don't understand the logic of thinking Mannion having assessed the players at his disposal will waste a season by designing an offense that deliberately exposes the main component as a problem to prove a point, because there's no guarantee you're going to be able to get a plug and play replacement in draft or trade (at least not without ponying up a lot of picks) or survive in the job if your offense sucks.

In fact I'd be pissed if the team did that, I'd far rather if you don't think Hurts is up to a new offense, don't mess around with whispering campaigns and wasting a season, have the courage of your conviction and trade him and put in someone you think can do it.

All fair points.

7 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

If your starting QB is struggling in the offense as designed, how do you assess who's not doing their job right in that scenario, the QB that's been to the play offs 5 years straight or the guy who designed the offense? I just don't understand the logic of thinking Mannion having assessed the players at his disposal will waste a season by designing an offense that deliberately exposes the main component as a problem to prove a point, because there's no guarantee you're going to be able to get a plug and play replacement in draft or trade (at least not without ponying up a lot of picks) or survive in the job if your offense sucks.

In fact I'd be pissed if the team did that, I'd far rather if you don't think Hurts is up to a new offense, don't mess around with whispering campaigns and wasting a season, have the courage of your conviction and trade him and put in someone you think can do it.

A lot plays a role into an extension.

- What is Hurts camp looking for? Rumor was 60+ mill avg/yr

Is he worth that type of money and how will it effect bring in and keeping better talent on the team.

I get it, QB is the "most important" position on the field. However anyone that watches Hurts tape in the last 3 years can see he is not a 60+ mill QB. Does he get the W? Yes, but a lot of factors have played out to achieve those results.

I do believe the FO is watching Hurts performance very closely this season and we will not see any extension discussed till at least mid way through the season if not the end of the season based off progression. Sooner or later you will have to bite the bullet and start with a new QB on a more cap friendly contract to be able to keep and add talent in other positions.

The good news is that if Hurts gets $60 million, Dak will get bumped up to $70 million.

On 7/14/2026 at 1:22 PM, MF POON said:

Is that chatter mostly from fans? Cos I don't see anything from the FO that makes me believe they aren't committed to Hurts. Why would you be shaky about a guy that's taken you to the playoffs every year as a starter, been to 2 SB's, and won one? With the roster they have they're built to win it all for a few seasons, so throwing in an unknown at the QB position is a very risky move.

I think Hurts is fine even if he doesn't have an exceptional year in the offensive scheme. It's also odd that people think it's a make-or-break year for Hurts, when generally every QB is usually given a pass in their first year in a new scheme.

On 7/15/2026 at 7:46 PM, DeathByEagle said:

A lot plays a role into an extension.

- What is Hurts camp looking for? Rumor was 60+ mill avg/yr

Is he worth that type of money and how will it effect bring in and keeping better talent on the team.

I get it, QB is the "most important" position on the field. However anyone that watches Hurts tape in the last 3 years can see he is not a 60+ mill QB. Does he get the W? Yes, but a lot of factors have played out to achieve those results.

I do believe the FO is watching Hurts performance very closely this season and we will not see any extension discussed till at least mid way through the season if not the end of the season based off progression. Sooner or later you will have to bite the bullet and start with a new QB on a more cap friendly contract to be able to keep and add talent in other positions.

I agree with Poon.

Is the camp asking for 60 million? Maybe, but ultimately what is important is the cap hits. Hurts signed a 50 million plus deal a few years back and we won the Super Bowl comfortably.

And yes you lose cap money, but how much do you have to invest in draft capital to get his potential replacement?

On 7/20/2026 at 8:58 AM, ManchesterEagle said:

I agree with Poon.

Is the camp asking for 60 million? Maybe, but ultimately what is important is the cap hits. Hurts signed a 50 million plus deal a few years back and we won the Super Bowl comfortably.

And yes you lose cap money, but how much do you have to invest in draft capital to get his potential replacement?

We won comfortably because a lot of stars mainly on defense were on very cheap rookie contracts. That won't be the case in a few years

This thread has amazingly strong legs. 🙃😜

I’d take a 4th or a 5th.

16 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

We won comfortably because a lot of stars mainly on defense were on very cheap rookie contracts. That won't be the case in a few years

Partly that, but we should have had 2 Super Bowls if it wasn’t for a defensive meltdown.

Hurts has shown he can win it all and play great in the biggest games with competent coaches and a very good team.

To have a good chance of getting a new franchise QB, we would need to give up a lot of high draft picks, which makes it far harder to get controllable young talent.

16 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

We won comfortably because a lot of stars mainly on defense were on very cheap rookie contracts. That won't be the case in a few years

On 7/15/2026 at 2:46 PM, DeathByEagle said:

A lot plays a role into an extension.

- What is Hurts camp looking for? Rumor was 60+ mill avg/yr

Is he worth that type of money and how will it effect bring in and keeping better talent on the team.

I get it, QB is the "most important" position on the field. However anyone that watches Hurts tape in the last 3 years can see he is not a 60+ mill QB. Does he get the W? Yes, but a lot of factors have played out to achieve those results.

I do believe the FO is watching Hurts performance very closely this season and we will not see any extension discussed till at least mid way through the season if not the end of the season based off progression. Sooner or later you will have to bite the bullet and start with a new QB on a more cap friendly contract to be able to keep and add talent in other positions.

I haven’t hear Jalen wants that money, but the Eagles are playing a dangerous game if they’re not willing to pay and assume the next guy will be fine. How many guys out there who are worth that kind of money? Allen? Jackson? Herbert? What is it that makes them worth it? Numbers? Dak is putting up numbers too. When I hear Bernard say "keep the main thing the main thing” already it really does show that there are intangibles that this quarterback has that some others are lacking and that resonates more than the numbers. I’d like to see how all those guys who apparently are worth all that money look having a new coordinator every year too.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

If Hurts gets injured- and that can happen in a blink of the ye- you have to have a very good QB 2. Period.
So if you have a pretty good QB who can move that offense on your team, you pay him and retain him.
Nuff said.