Just now, pgcd3 said:

Can see Stefanksi as the Eagles OC at some point

Tbh i think he’d get another HC gig. i think he’s restricted at Qb due to the brown ineptitude in FO. I’m guessing some blame on mayfield leaving but felt like mayfield would’ve never gotten to the point he’s at now staying there.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I noticed that in real time. It really is crazy how little protection he gets compared to most QBs. I can't remember the last time he got a RTP call - and when he does get a flag thrown it almost always gets picked up. Then you got Dak last night dipping his head after the dude wrapped around his SHOULDER, helmet comes off and they throw the flag.

They also missed a targeting/ unnecessary roughness call on a Smith catch. Near the sideline, he was held up by two defenders completely unable to protect himself and a LB or S just blasted him face to face. Eagles would have been penalized instantly.

4 minutes ago, Lambo said:

And the Eagles survived. Without the pick 6, the outcome could have been different.

The pick 6 was a great JC play at least; that intentional grounding in the RZ was wild. Like OK, he didn’t see the primary read (!), but throw ball out of the end zone if you’re killing the play.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I like Jermaine Johnson, but not sure I'd overpay for him. He only has one sack on the season. I think he has upside, but I'm not sold on him. Unless there's a name out there we haven't heard of, he and Chubb might be the best names on the market.

Depending on what CBs are on the market, I wonder if CB might be a better place to invest. But Edge is so damn thin, it's a tough call.

I would focus on the lines and go with a competent OG/C and Edge. Don't think we are going to get a shut down CB. Improving the pass rush and run game (TOP) will help the defense.

What's the deal with sound bars these days? I have a 5.1.2 basic atmos system. May need something new.

It seems the ones with the up firing speakers are scarce these days.

Now there's a bunch of 5.1 systems claiming to be atmos. How can that be without up firing speakers?

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I still don't understand the hate for Carson Wentz. People celebrating how bad he played yesterday and continually just bashing him is just strange to me. OK, he played poorly, move on. Reuben Frank ripped in to him being the worst QB he's ever seen on the podcast. Worst QB? Really? Did he hurt you Reub? He played like an MVP, tore his ACL, broke his back, got concussed and they moved on with a better QB for the team. He didn't set the team back, he didn't trash the organization. He's handled himself with nothing but class from what I've seen.

He's a shell of 2017. I'm glad he's not the QB here. But on a list of players former Philly players who deserve hate, he's not even on the list.

I thought he was acting like a baby and entitled at some point at the end but I could be wrong. It feels like he did something that turned our opinion of him past playing like crap on the field.

8 minutes ago, Lambo said:

And the Eagles survived. Without the pick 6, the outcome could have been different.

Without the missed FG, without the defense giving up a 21-9 lead, without... you can do that with any play.

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

They also missed a targeting/ unnecessary roughness call on a Smith catch. Near the sideline, he was held up by two defenders completely unable to protect himself and a LB or S just blasted him face to face. Eagles would have been penalized instantly.

Feels like they average one picked up flag per week and it always goes against their favor. I never see it in other games with other teams.

5 hours ago, NOTW said:

Ive watched this play about 100 times and im still miffed at what the hell is going on

Both AJ and Smith slow roll their releases then yst kind of walk up to the DB and grab em like theyre gling to block, AJ stops his feet and just kind of stands looking at Hurts, Smitty breaks his off on an out route then jaen points and AJ takes off

Was this the design, is it a rope a dope route? Or is patullo just an idiot and really thought whatever kind of routes those were would work.

Really weird play.

But we threw snowballs at Santa...

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Vikings cornerback Isaiah Rodgers, who was the primary defender on two key plays that sparked the Eagles to beat Minnesota 28-22, said he has received "some of the most boob comments" he has seen...

Personally I enjoyed the whacking of Wentz and even Rodgers yesterday. They were not in Eagles jerseys and that's just how that goes. Part of the fun of sports. But I do think Wentz acted entitled in his time here. And could have been more gracious with Foles winning it instead of him or the benching for Hurts. He also basically asked out of town and lowered his trade valuel, in which Howie masterfully finnagled the Colts to a decent deal. He's been humbled since of course. He is a 10 cent brain with a solid arm. Didn't look that great yesterday though with the deep ball. And really hard to believe that Goff ended up being the better QB there.

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I like Jermaine Johnson, but not sure I'd overpay for him. He only has one sack on the season. I think he has upside, but I'm not sold on him. Unless there's a name out there we haven't heard of, he and Chubb might be the best names on the market.

Depending on what CBs are on the market, I wonder if CB might be a better place to invest. But Edge is so damn thin, it's a tough call.

I think they can do a few things. BG coming back is one edge and Smith off IR is another. Maybe they make a move for Chubb as well that won't cost a ton. Corner you have to see what JB can bring and hopefully sign AS Jr.. Yeah, he can't tackle but at least he can cover. The guys the have right now can't seem to do either. So maybe all those moves cost them a 5th in terms of draft capital.

I'd really like to see them make a move at guard. I have no idea who is out there, but I'd gladly burn pick even if it's a one year rental. They need to improve there and if that lets them move Steen to swing guard like last year that's fine with me. They could use the depth. More than anything it will save the defense if they can control the clock.

There aren't any dominant teams this year and the Eagles have the talent to do something. They need to go for it but not give up a ton of capital.

BG, Chubb, and Smith gives them depth at edge

AS Jr and JB hopefully give them a decent CB2 and depth

Guard lets the offense start to move the DL and run the ball. It opens up the offense and reduces the snaps for the defense.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I would argue that the predominant record prediction before the season began would have been 6-2 going into the bye - losses to KC and TB on the road. We are a well-played game away from that accomplishment.

The impact of a new OC and the loss of talent on D were expected and are proving to be true. The performance of the OL wasn't expected to decline this much, if at all. But injury regression was another concern.

If you recall, Andy had this team playing it's best in November and December. Same for 2024.

You see the team's capacity for greatness often during games. Get the OL working and a more consistent pass rush. We'll be fine.

Its not the result, but the way that we got there that's so frustrating. The loss to the Broncos could have been avoided. The offense has yet to play a complete game this season. They got it together enough in the end to win yesterday, but for roughly half the game, they couldn't buy a first down.

After the initial drive yesterday, they went 3 and out on the next 3 possessions... got a little life at the end of the half... only to turtle up at the end.

And when you look at the number of plays... no wonder the defense is petering out. Eagles ran 43 offensive plays. Vikings ran 65. And this has been a constant with this team. Last year they dominated TOP and the defense was fresh to make late stops. This year they are not as fresh AND banged up. Lethal combination.

Fortunately, in all of this, they are winning. This team just has way too much talent to be denied.

13 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I still don't understand the hate for Carson Wentz. People celebrating how bad he played yesterday and continually just bashing him is just strange to me. OK, he played poorly, move on. Reuben Frank ripped in to him being the worst QB he's ever seen on the podcast. Worst QB? Really? Did he hurt you Reub? He played like an MVP, tore his ACL, broke his back, got concussed and they moved on with a better QB for the team. He didn't set the team back, he didn't trash the organization. He's handled himself with nothing but class from what I've seen.

He's a shell of 2017. I'm glad he's not the QB here. But on a list of players former Philly players who deserve hate, he's not even on the list.

Personally, I can’t pile on Carson anymore. He’s takes a hellacious physical beating, and likely has brain damage. He’s kind of a sad what could’ve been NFL story.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

What's the deal with sound bars these days? I have a 5.1.2 basic atmos system. May need something new.

It seems the ones with the up firing speakers are scarce these days.

Now there's a bunch of 5.1 systems claiming to be atmos. How can that be without up firing speakers?

I'm a closet audiophile, love that stuff. IMO, unless you've got an in-ceiling speaker, the up-firing drivers are a gimmick that you will never actually discernibly hear. They may increase the overall ambiance and echo of the sound, but they don't have the true localization, which is the whole point of atmos.

Ideally, you could not do the soundbars at all, but sometimes the layout of a room and/or wife dictates that. IMO, Sonos has the most user-friendly easy to integrate soundbars with a decent enough sub. We have that in our family room and it's not bad, syncs up nicely with the sonos amps delivering stuff to other rooms for whole home audio.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

What's the deal with sound bars these days? I have a 5.1.2 basic atmos system. May need something new.

It seems the ones with the up firing speakers are scarce these days.

Now there's a bunch of 5.1 systems claiming to be atmos. How can that be without up firing speakers?

Sounds like you need better internet

19 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I like Jermaine Johnson, but not sure I'd overpay for him. He only has one sack on the season. I think he has upside, but I'm not sold on him. Unless there's a name out there we haven't heard of, he and Chubb might be the best names on the market.

Depending on what CBs are on the market, I wonder if CB might be a better place to invest. But Edge is so damn thin, it's a tough call.

If BG is coming back, and Nolan comes back after the bye, Nolan/Hunt/Uche/BG/Azeez/P Johnson is a solid group (unless Azeez is out for a while). BG coming back makes me think any move at the deadline will be for a CB.

I'm really starting to think we may not do anything. BG, Nolan and Bennett are the reinforcements.

25 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I still don't understand the hate for Carson Wentz. People celebrating how bad he played yesterday and continually just bashing him is just strange to me. OK, he played poorly, move on. Reuben Frank ripped in to him being the worst QB he's ever seen on the podcast. Worst QB? Really? Did he hurt you Reub? He played like an MVP, tore his ACL, broke his back, got concussed and they moved on with a better QB for the team. He didn't set the team back, he didn't trash the organization. He's handled himself with nothing but class from what I've seen.

He's a shell of 2017. I'm glad he's not the QB here. But on a list of players former Philly players who deserve hate, he's not even on the list.

Objectively, with what he's done for the Vikings you could put him in the top 8 backup QBs in the league. He's unquestionably been better than McCarthy so far this year; McCarthy will likely be back next game, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if KOC pulls McCarthy a couple of times this season to let him watch again.

Wentz has made too many mistakes with INT's, but the Vikings offense has moved better with him in there at QB.

12 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I thought he was acting like a baby and entitled at some point at the end but I could be wrong. It feels like he did something that turned our opinion of him past playing like crap on the field.

I think a lot of that was behind the scenes, which means it depends on who you believe and we'll never really know. But the entitlement and immature comments did come from some people.

I hate to say it, but I harbor more frustration for Mcnabb than Wentz. Wentz tee'd Foles and the rest of the team up beautifully in the SB season. He lost it and the team frankly wasted very, very little time in moving on (and got great return for him). When he faced us again (unlike with Mcnabb), there was no passive aggression and he told the reporters that he had no ill will towards the franchise and that it was a lifetime ago he was here.

So in my book, I'm OK with Wentz at this point.

Wentz didn't have a great game but I am also surprised how easy it was for him to move up and down the field. Obviously could be part of the design of the defense as they were great in the RZ, but I still didn't expect Wentz to look as good as he did.

I think we are sorely overestimating what BG may bring to the table in a return. He had one impact game with a few impact plays against like a 3rd string RT last year. Outside of that, he was a 250lb space occupier 1 year and 2 tricep tears ago.

In 2017, Wentz was exceptional. In 2018, he was very good. In 2019, I think he was merely OK. In 2020, he was abysmal. And injuries plagued all of those seasons.

He always had significant trouble with mechanics. They were reworking them seemingly every year and, seeing him with the Vikings, it's clear those mechanics have continued to shift around since. His release has continued to be weird and...despite the fact that he's not that old...his arm strength and flickability just seem far less explosive than when he was with the Eagles.

He maintains a pretty composed persona in press conferences, but he does seem a bit fiery and compulsive on the field. I think he mentally lost his grasp of the position as he saw the Eagles (FO and teammates) confidence in him eroding, which culminated in Hurts getting drafted before the disastrous 2020 season.

9 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I think they can do a few things. BG coming back is one edge and Smith off IR is another. Maybe they make a move for Chubb as well that won't cost a ton. Corner you have to see what JB can bring and hopefully sign AS Jr.. Yeah, he can't tackle but at least he can cover. The guys the have right now can't seem to do either. So maybe all those moves cost them a 5th in terms of draft capital.

I'd really like to see them make a move at guard. I have no idea who is out there, but I'd gladly burn pick even if it's a one year rental. They need to improve there and if that lets them move Steen to swing guard like last year that's fine with me. They could use the depth. More than anything it will save the defense if they can control the clock.

There aren't any dominant teams this year and the Eagles have the talent to do something. They need to go for it but not give up a ton of capital.

BG, Chubb, and Smith gives them depth at edge

AS Jr and JB hopefully give them a decent CB2 and depth

Guard lets the offense start to move the DL and run the ball. It opens up the offense and reduces the snaps for the defense.

Steen has been fine, behind Lane who hasnt been his dominating self id say hes been the eagles 2nd best OL, which is a problem because he should be the 5th, but jurgens and dickerson have been awful, sure theyre hurt and as such theyve been sucking, they cant move, they get zero push and both constantly look like theyre walking on glass all game until they go out with whatever game injury.

Malaita has been ok but seems he gets a penalty every week and gives up a pressure at the worst time, and his run blocking this year hasnt been as good, maybe part of that has to do with lining up next to a new guard every game but still its been ugly.

Replacing steen isnt going to make dickerson and jurgens better, Steen is no all pro but he doesnt and wasnt supposed to be.

He was fine yesterday, I remember one play with him on the ground because somebody ran into him from behind and tripped him up, other than that I thought he was fine, not dominant, not all pro just the 5th OL playing like the 5th OL.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Wentz didn't have a great game but I am also surprised how easy it was for him to move up and down the field. Obviously could be part of the design of the defense as they were great in the RZ, but I still didn't expect Wentz to look as good as he did.

Wentz is what he has been ever since 2020 -- about 75-80% of the time, he still looks like a very good NFL QB. But then there are those WTF plays every game. The picks sure, but also missing the wide open guy for a walk in TD early. The intentional grounding debacle. He's good for 5-10 WTF plays a game.

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Steen has been fine, behind Lane who hasnt been his dominating self id say hes been the eagles 2nd best OL, which is a problem because he should be the 5th, but jurgens and dickerson have been awful, sure theyre hurt and as such theyve been sucking, they cant move, they get zero push and both constantly look like theyre walking on glass all game until they go out with whatever game injury.

Malaita has been ok but seems he gets a penalty every week and gives up a pressure at the worst time, and his run blocking this year hasnt been as good, maybe part of that has to do with lining up next to a new guard every game but still its been ugly.

Replacing steen isnt going to make dickerson and jurgens better, Steen is no all pro but he doesnt and wasnt supposed to be.

He was fine yesterday, I remember one play with him on the ground because somebody ran into him from behind and tripped him up, other than that I thought he was fine, not dominant, not all pro just the 5th OL playing like the 5th OL.

To my untrained eye, I think Steen is better than Becton in pass protection, but clearly not as good in run blocking. Agree he's been our 2nd best lineman this year.

Toth isn't an an NFL player and kills us anytime he's in.