9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Just me or are games ending a lot later the past few years

80 points were scored so just takes longer

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

hes meh

"bolster" is doing a lot of work there.

These "journalists" have to stop acting like teams signing guys off the scrap heap during the regular season is more than it is.

8 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

You really don't understand why most people aren't overly critical of his moves that haven't worked?

People don't like criticism because of the SBs. That shouldn't protect him IMO

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I think we mostly agree based on the good points you made.

For me, it's not bitterness but love for the team like you and everyone else in here. I don't think any of us expect perfection, but for me personally, it's the self-inflicted ones that bug me the most, which seem to be accumulating at CB.

-Want to move on from Slay? Cool

-Want to trade CJ? Cool

-Want to let Rodgers go? OK, but the backup plan shouldn't be counting on a guy who was benched by the Giants last year. Perhaps it's not standard procedure to speak with Vic before signing the CB, but maybe they should consider doing so.

-And how the heck did they misjudge Ringo so poorly when they watched him every day in practice for two years?

Every team has holes but they created this one.

It was a calculated risk. People invest in the stock market every day by taking calculated risks. Michael Jordan followed a calculated risk approach of "Never up, never in.” As does Steph Curry. With calculated risks the potential up side is always perceived to be greater than the potential down side.

In this case, the fact that both Adoree and Ringo haven’t worked out means that Howie has work to do in order to mitigate any damage. It is an 18 week season, so plenty of time to be identifying possible solutions. Plus Vic and the DB coaches are working on solutions as well. It is a dynamic situation.

2 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

hes meh

Isn't he strictly a slot CB?

12 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

You really don't understand why most people aren't overly critical of his moves that haven't worked?

It is human nature … if you get 10 things right with your wife and then get one thing wrong, you are worse off than when you started.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

There's a reason that players shouldn't go over that close to the stands, ESPECIALLY as the visitor. Nothing good can come of it. Is there a reason that they decided to parade that close to where the fans are so that they were actually within arm's reach? That's not to put the blame on them for initiating the contract. But, to a certain extent, they need to be smarter. When you put yourself in a bad situation, bad things are more likely to happen than if you stick to the field area.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

It was a calculated risk. People invest in the stock market every day by taking calculated risks. Michael Jordan followed a calculated risk approach of "Never up, never in.” As does Steph Curry. With calculated risks the potential up side is always perceived to be greater than the potential down side.

In this case, the fact that both Adoree and Ringo haven’t worked out means that Howie has work to do in order to mitigate any damage. It is an 18 week season, so plenty of time to be identifying possible solutions. Plus Vic and the DB coaches are working on solutions as well. It is a dynamic situation.

When you have inside information like with Ringo you should get it right. I'm not sure how anyone could look at Rodgers after what he did helping them win a SB and think a guy who was benched by the Giants would have a higher up side. Mac could end up being a guy later in the season. We'll see, but he created this hole by getting too cute. That's what bothers me more than he signed a guy like Huff last year and was wrong.

1 hour ago, DevilMayRage said:

I know people here love Howie...but how the frig do you come into this season with that drek at CB?

I can excuse the pass rush issues due to multiple losses of talent. They saw it and tried for Parsons. However, the secondary issues were self-imposed and a better plan then Ringo's turn was needed.

I'm fairly certain they thought Kelee Ringo was going to make a huge leap, take CB2 and not look back. Adoree Jackson was signed as a veteran backup, not as a starter. It was a misjudgment of talent if anything else. I'd imagine they would have made stronger moves had they known Ringo was this bad.

20 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Where are you located?

North of Charlotte, NC

I think the most fair thing is to just call it like it is with whatever position, player, coach, play, game, etc. you're talking about. Fresh off the Super Bowl (the 2nd in 7 years after a long drought) provides some leeway and trust, but it also doesn't prevent any criticism. Both can be true: Howie built two SB teams, and also was wrong about some decisions. Howie himself will admit his mistakes and learning from them.

The Eagles still have the best overall roster in the NFL loaded with star players. On defense there are a lot of changes. Last year they took several games because of all the changes and new coaches. Now they are replacing a lot of guys who left on defense and expecting 2nd year players, new free agents and rookies to fill in the gaps. Without preseason snaps, that always takes time. And yet, despite Carter being out the defense played well in the 2nd half. Now they have film and can learn from it and improve.

The regular season always has ups and downs for every team. Injuries, luck, surprise outcomes. The Eagles have the roster, experience and coaching to handle it. There are concerns about CB2, Safety, O line depth...but they also are stacked at most positions. Can you believe we are so strong at Linebacker now? Having a top LB prospect drafted in the 1st round who already impressed in his first game? Incredible.

I still maintain they will go to the Super Bowl, that the overall roster and coaching will compensate for the weaker positions. It will also position them for what they need to do with all those picks next draft. Corner, O line, Edge, keep retooling and adding talent.

21 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Just me or are games ending a lot later the past few years?

Shorten the game to add more commercials. There was a really good reel on IG with a guy comparing the modern day NFL to that of a "Disney Adult". Basically saying the NFL is one big soft ad. It's costumes, pop stars and money being spent. I wish I saved it or could find it again. The NFL in it's partnerships with Mr.. Beast, Jake from State Farm and so on. It made sense while watching it and I'm doing a terrible job explaining it. If I can find it I'll share it.

Bottom line, the game is longer, but it's due to kickoff times not being actual kickoff times, giving the talking heads 20-30 more minutes before the game, which also brings in more ad revenue.

Hilton is like a coach on the field. Exactly what a young team needs. Has a lot of good tackles in the opposing backfield in last year's highlights. This guy's got some swag and is an agressive blitzer as well. I like him as strict slot CB. Think Fangio has a perfect role for him. Bengals fans liked him as well. You move Cooper to CB2. Now we have a solid tackling secondary, which majorly improves from last week.

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Isn't he strictly a slot CB?

Pretty much

Unless the play is moving DeJean to CB2

4 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

North of Charlotte, NC

Good BBQ Carrots and Beets down there!

Interesting

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

When you have inside information like with Ringo you should get it right. I'm not sure how anyone could look at Rodgers after what he did helping them win a SB and think a guy who was benched by the Giants would have a higher up side. Mac could end up being a guy later in the season. We'll see, but he created this hole by getting too cute. That's what bothers me more than he signed a guy like Huff last year and was wrong.

Coca Cola had inside information when it decided to come out with New Coke. How did that work out for them? All decisions have a certain amount of both judgment and risk. Sometimes they don’t work out.

Trey Turner has inside information about what pitches pitchers are going to throw, but he only gets a hit three times out of ten. Out of 10 decisions, how many does Howie get right?

My issue with Rodgers (and why I had no problem letting him go in Free Agency), is his deficiency in ball location skills. It is one thing to be able to be in the right defensive position to defend the receiver, but if you don’t have the ball location skills to be able to turn and track the pass trajectory, the receiver hill be more often than not able to out compete the CB for the ball, and make the catch. That is the case with Rodgers big time, and also the case with Ricks to a lesser extent. Couple that with Ricks’ lack of foot speed and in his case you get a player who comes up a day late and a dollar short.

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I think we mostly agree based on the good points you made.

For me, it's not bitterness but love for the team like you and everyone else in here. I don't think any of us expect perfection, but for me personally, it's the self-inflicted ones that bug me the most, which seem to be accumulating at CB.

-Want to move on from Slay? Cool

-Want to trade CJ? Cool

-Want to let Rodgers go? OK, but the backup plan shouldn't be counting on a guy who was benched by the Giants last year. Perhaps it's not standard procedure to speak with Vic before signing the CB, but maybe they should consider doing so.

-And how the heck did they misjudge Ringo so poorly when they watched him every day in practice for two years?

Every team has holes but they created this one.

I would point out that it was the first game of the season, last year we had all the players you mention there and still went out in the second game and played a defensive second half against Atlanta that was as bad as anything we played under Desai, they had a last drive where we couldn't stop them for crap.

We haven't started a season playing great football for years, under Sirianni even when we've got to the Superbowl the first couple of games are more grind than procession as they knock the off season rust off, if CB2 still looks like a hole in a couple of game maybe they bite the bullet, but Cee Dee is going to make a lot better corners than Adoree Jackson look ordinary.

Worth remembering as well that for all the hoopla, Slay was just an absolutely average starting corner last year, he wasn't near his best level.

TL:DR The sky isn't falling in, it's just early season sloppiness in the defense against a top 3 receiver in a divisional match up without our best D Lineman there to collapse pockets.

11 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

North of Charlotte, NC

How far north? Here’s a review of a highly rated Indian restaurant in Charlotte

Botiwalla is a top option in Optimist Hall, Charlotte’s popular food hall. It comes from the team behind Asheville’s Chai Pani and the original Botiwalla in Atlanta’s Ponce City Market, and it specializes in Indian street foods, like vada pav, skewered meats, and six kinds of naan. It all makes for an amazing quick lunch or dinner that you can and should cap-off with the only dessert on the menu: a delicious plate of gulab jamun. The counter-service restaurant’s colorful space is a ton of fun, filled with Bollywood posters, picnic tables, and floor-to-ceiling windows. There’s also a provisions corner, where you can stock up on snacks, sauces, and spices.

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Shorten the game to add more commercials. There was a really good reel on IG with a guy comparing the modern day NFL to that of a "Disney Adult". Basically saying the NFL is one big soft ad. It's costumes, pop stars and money being spent. I wish I saved it or could find it again. The NFL in it's partnerships with Mr.. Beast, Jake from State Farm and so on. It made sense while watching it and I'm doing a terrible job explaining it. If I can find it I'll share it.

Bottom line, the game is longer, but it's due to kickoff times not being actual kickoff times, giving the talking heads 20-30 more minutes before the game, which also brings in more ad revenue.

I have noticed they advertise the start of coverage instead of the start of the game

15 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

North of Charlotte, NC

Here’s another possibility

Sanctuary Bistro — The South is obsessed with meat and animal products, so Sanctuary Bistro, with a rotating all-vegan, gluten-free, and organic menu, is a welcome addition to the restaurant scene. This is a place where stuff like soy, tofu, and mushrooms mimic the textures, richness, and meatiness of meat and cheese. In other words, you won’t have to sell dishes like the grilled blackened jackfruit steak or king trumpet scallops too hard to someone who only eats chicken tenders. We like Sanctuary best for a weeknight dinner, where we can post up in the dining room at the bar. And since it’s located in a shopping center, there’s always a parking spot.

19 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I think the most fair thing is to just call it like it is with whatever position, player, coach, play, game, etc. you're talking about. Fresh off the Super Bowl (the 2nd in 7 years after a long drought) provides some leeway and trust, but it also doesn't prevent any criticism. Both can be true: Howie built two SB teams, and also was wrong about some decisions. Howie himself will admit his mistakes and learning from them.

The Eagles still have the best overall roster in the NFL loaded with star players. On defense there are a lot of changes. Last year they took several games because of all the changes and new coaches. Now they are replacing a lot of guys who left on defense and expecting 2nd year players, new free agents and rookies to fill in the gaps. Without preseason snaps, that always takes time. And yet, despite Carter being out the defense played well in the 2nd half. Now they have film and can learn from it and improve.

The regular season always has ups and downs for every team. Injuries, luck, surprise outcomes. The Eagles have the roster, experience and coaching to handle it. There are concerns about CB2, Safety, O line depth...but they also are stacked at most positions. Can you believe we are so strong at Linebacker now? Having a top LB prospect drafted in the 1st round who already impressed in his first game? Incredible.

I still maintain they will go to the Super Bowl, that the overall roster and coaching will compensate for the weaker positions. It will also position them for what they need to do with all those picks next draft. Corner, O line, Edge, keep retooling and adding talent.

Totally agree. I mean we need something to talk about unless people want to go back to Cracker Barrel. That doesn't mean we don't think Howie is the best GM in the NFL and are lucky to have him.