I don't know if Brown has been instructed to lie so he gets cloud coverage and double teams but he is clearly still getting back up to speed from the injury.

He has the power but not the speed.

AJ usually separates on the field and I'm not seeing it yet. I did not all 22 either game but it looked that way to me.

Just now, eagle45 said:

I do not understand how Ringo could be so much worse than Jackson. Same goes for Bennett, but he hasn’t been around long.

Fangio has all but admitted he doesn’t even like Jackson.

Yeah I was thinking about the unbelievable slide Ringo took in the off-season somehow. He was literally the reason Howie let both Slay and Rodgers walk - pretty much penciled in as starting CB2. What the heck happened to him in the off-season??

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It won’t be long before we are closing in on a full calendar year of saying this about Brown. That’s not good.

its called Hurtscuses.

Brown is fine. People who are concerned think Hurts is fine. They have misidentified the problem.

1 minute ago, SkippyX said:

I don't know if Brown has been instructed to lie so he gets cloud coverage and double teams but he is clearly still getting back up to speed from the injury.

He has the power but not the speed.

AJ usually separates on the field and I'm not seeing it yet. I did not all 22 either game but it looked that way to me.

His hands are still elite - still makes amazing one handed grabs - but something is off with him. I'm guessing his hammy.

this is why they play the style they do

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

1) Brown is obviously hurt, no burst

He definitely doesn’t look fast right now. Even on the Orlovsky breakdown of the Devanto deep ball AJ gets zero separation.

Hope it's just the hammy and no lingering issues from his knee last season. We never found out what the injury was, just that he had to keep getting it drained. Well actually hoping it's not injury at all and he's fine. He's not on the injury report.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I do not understand how Ringo could be so much worse than Jackson. Same goes for Bennett, but he hasn’t been around long.

Fangio has all but admitted he doesn’t even like Jackson.

Ringo is literally a stiff. He can't really move like an NFL corner.

He was a toolsy RAS project that has not panned out.

Too much of this is still true today:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kelee-ringo/32005249-4e50-4723-3a49-9257661a7422

Weaknesses

• Lack of patience against release leads to early hip declarations.

• Body control gets sloppy from side-shuffle technique.

• Has trouble staying in phase with comeback routes.

• Allows coverage slippage during scrambles.

• Has issues consistently tracking deep balls.

• Step slow anticipating breaks and transitioning laterally.

• Called for nine penalties in 2022, per PFF.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

its called Hurtscuses.

Brown is fine. People who are concerned think Hurts is fine. They have misidentified the problem.

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

He definitely doesn’t look fast right now. Even on the Orlovsky breakdown of the Devanto deep ball AJ gets zero separation.

Watch his slants, no explosion out of his cuts. That's his bread and butter route.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Yeah I was thinking about the unbelievable slide Ringo took in the off-season somehow. He was literally the reason Howie let both Slay and Rodgers walk - pretty much penciled in as starting CB2. What the heck happened to him in the off-season??

Nothing happened to him. They misread him. He is what he's been... not good enough. And now his only asset, youth, will start to fade into oblivion. He's a ST guy, and a good one. But he's not what they thought he was when they drafted him. They missed on that one. Given the number of recent hits, I think we can let Howie slide on this one.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

this is why they play the style they do

I would imagine every team has a comparable winning % when they fall into each of those categories. Maybe not quite as lopsided as 36-2, but I’m sure very good.

More impressive to me is that the Eagles are 38-26-15 in winning the turnover margin. That’s pretty damn good.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

its called Hurtscuses.

Brown is fine. People who are concerned think Hurts is fine. They have misidentified the problem.

You've been saying the same thing about Hurts for the past 5 years. Here we are 2 NFC Championships and a Super Bowl Championship later and you're still spewing the same nonsense. You're becoming RTK but on the other end of the spectrum.

That was a welcome to the NFL moment for wonder boy narrative NFC Player of the Week McCarthy.

Just now, Ace Nova said:

You've been saying the same thing about Hurts for the past 5 years. Here we are 2 NFC Championships and a Super Bowl Championship later and you're still spewing the same nonsense. You're becoming RTK but on the other end of the spectrum.

He played great in those 3 games.

Since the Start of the 2023 Season, Philadelphia is 9-0 vs The Athletic’s tier 1 QB’s

The Athletic’s tier 1 QB’s: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6514160/2025/08/11/nfl-qb-rankings-tiers-2025-jackson-daniels/

10/08/23 Eagles 23, Rams 14

11/20/23 Eagles 21, Chiefs 17

11/26/23 Eagles 37, Bills 34

10/27/24 Eagles 37, Bengals 17

11/24/24 Eagles 37, Rams 20

12/01/24 Eagles 24, Ravens 19

01/19/25 Eagles 28, Rams 22

2/09/25 Eagles 40, Chiefs 22

9/14/25 Eagles 20, Chiefs 17

36-2 when they win the turnover margin? How does Hurts do in the turnover department?

• A - Good

• B - Great

• C - All-time Great

• D - C, but I hate him because I am broken

How did he do in December of 2023 when he felt he had to go deep all the time?

Neither of these two OLs are pass blocking for their QBs.

It’s premature to say this…but I did speculate that AJ was not a WR that would age well. He’s all about short area burst…not too unlike Debo Samuel, who fell off a cliff at a young age. When you play the position a bit like a RB, sometimes you mimic that lifespan.

Devonte Smith…a route technician and glider, will probably be doing the same thing at 33 as a WR.

good lord this SNF game is beyond boring

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

It’s premature to say this…but I did speculate that AJ was not a WR that would age well. He’s all about short area burst…not too unlike Debo Samuel, who fell off a cliff at a young age. When you play the position a bit like a RB, sometimes you mimic that lifespan.

Devonte Smith…a route technician and glider, will probably be doing the same thing at 33 as a WR.

I don't want to say it but Alshon Jeffrey had a similar drop off before the end of his career. AJ is in a lot better shape and is a better receiver than Alshon was- works out harder, better speed, etc hopefully it's just a fluke - nagging injury etc

Just now, eagle45 said:

It’s premature to say this…but I did speculate that AJ was not a WR that would age well. He’s all about short area burst…not too unlike Debo Samuel, who fell off a cliff at a young age. When you play the position a bit like a RB, sometimes you mimic that lifespan.

Devonte Smith…a route technician and glider, will probably be doing the same thing at 33 as a WR.

Patullo stinks. Brown is Hurt. Run game not working as well. So many excuses. Nobody wants to point the finger at the one problem responsible for all of it.

Smith is not really producing either. If he had a hamstring injury in pre-season, everyone would incorrectly be assuming that he is not healthy too. Brown is fine.... He is not slowing down. His QB regressed again.

Maybe Calcaterra lost a step. Or maybe he is injured too. He had some big games last year when Goedert was out. No targets today. No action as our TE2 yet even though he has been on the field a lot.

Maybe Dotson has been hurt since he arrived in Philly too. Theyre all losing steps.

I wonder why it seems that way.

8 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

this is why they play the style they do

We'd be in the SB every year if there were QBs that could not turn the ball over while also getting passing production, but no way those exist.

Oh wait...

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I do not understand how Ringo could be so much worse than Jackson. Same goes for Bennett, but he hasn’t been around long.

Fangio has all but admitted he doesn’t even like Jackson.

Trade all 3 for ward with a pick or 2

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I don't want to say it but Alshon Jeffrey had a similar drop off before the end of his career. Pretty sure AJ is in a lot better shape than Alshon was though - works out harder, etc. Hopefully it's just a fluke - nagging injury etc

Jeffrey lost it FAST. He went from the #1 in 2017 and 2018 to someone that really shouldn’t even be playing in 2019 to out of the league in 2020. Meanwhile, Nelson Agholor was getting meaningful playing time with the Ravens last year.

The deterioration curve is so unpredictable.