35 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah the blitz pick up veered from pretty good to non existent throughout.

Also that's the play we were discussing earlier, that DB had contact on Smitty all the way down the sideline and didn't try to locate the ball, the Chiefs would have gotten a penalty on that 100%

35 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Suggesting that Patullo should have been able to step in to this role with no adjustment period is crazy.

He needs time. There are definitely issues, but I think he will get better. Brian Johnson was an idiot, KP is not.

Although, the one thing that probably frustrated me the most was the constant runs on 1st down for 1 yard. It was incredibly predictable and kept putting us in 2nd/3rd and long.

They HAVE to mix in some passes / play action on 1st downs occasionally just to keep the defense honest and allow drives to start.

These are easy things to fix, and I expect that they will.

It's not that he doesn't need to adjust. They are stale to the point the offense is predictable and stagnant. They are calling the same play 3 times in a row. There's not a single wrinkle in the game. There's no innovation. The motion they use does nothing to get players open. It may be more on Sirianni and Hurts than Patullo but Patullo is unimpressive. He could be prone to Sirianni's worst tendencies which is to be too conservative.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

You dont know ball... You think Im saying to throw deep. Im saying to put it in the window right between the 2 zones. Again, if you paid attention it has happened to us many times. It happens around the entire NFL. Its a regular, routine NFL throw. Our QB doesnt do that stuff though.

Except it's not a comeback or deep out, it's a go from the slot. You're basically asking for a back shoulder throw to the sideline with a safety shading over at the snap and having eyes on it the whole time.

Funny, in 2023 and for a lot of last season everyone was up in arms about how AJ Brown was used. It was "They just keep running AJ on vertical routes, AJ is a great YAC WR, why not run some slants and digs???”

Now this year they are running him on a lot of slants and digs and I’m seeing a lot of "Why are you running AJ on so many slants and digs, why not some more vertical routes???”

So they are trying new things, my guess recommended by Patullo and it still isn’t working.

And the players deserve some blame too, they weren’t getting open. Beat your man in coverage for once, regardless of what play is run. How about doing that?

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It's not that he doesn't need to adjust. They are stale to the point the offense is predictable and stagnant. They are calling the same play 3 times in a row. There's not a single wrinkle in the game. There's no innovation. The motion they use does nothing to get players open. It may be more on Sirianni and Hurts than Patullo but Patullo is unimpressive. He could be prone to Sirianni's worst tendencies which is to be too conservative.

Patullo will be fine with time. As will the Eagles as a whole.

Stay healthy and we have a real shot to repeat.

September noise doesn't move me....especially at 2-0.

The Philadelphia Eagles are a missed Devonta Catch away from being 19-0 since the bye week last year. We are witnessing something special people.

It's frustrating watching a very talented offense struggle. But that is also the silver lining. We have the pieces. It's just a matter of developing the scheme.

We are 2-0 and leading our division.

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I will respond for Hazelton...."It's not the scheme. It's the QB. He sucks."

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Rookie stuff. Great hit there. Bad play when he got trucked by Mahomes. More good than bad and improvement is likely. I like his trajectory.

Absolutely. If he can stay healthy it's encouraging.

Everyone is so obsessed with defending Hurts from the same haters they created that they continue to blame an OC after wins because the QB isn't playing like Josh Allen or Jackson. When in reality they're doing themselves no favors because they could actually be crediting Hurts for continuing to win with an offense that he has been running and winning with. It's so tiring. No body is doing Hurts wrong, he's said multiple times this is the offense he wants to run. So why not give him credit for it since he's winning? Because maybe it won't work next time? Everyone said the same thing all year last year. We're seeing a similar scheme despite changing OC's. The only consistent is Nick and Hurts. It's so obvious this is how he wants to ball. We've seen the game break open when it had to and it will probably have to next week.

It's like people have become so distracted by the need to 1) protect hurts from criticism 2)blame the OC that they don't see what's in front of them. The media wants rage bait and the fans are mad because it's boring to watch.

2 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Patullo will be fine with time. As will the Eagles as a whole.

Stay healthy and we have a real shot to repeat.

September noise doesn't move me....especially at 2-0.

I am not sure they will be fine. We witnessed these problems in the passing game the last 2 seasons. The difference last season was Barkley's explosive runs.

30 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It's been that way since they started it. Refs just don't call offsides. Likely to help stop the play

Hurts has said before that it's his offense and the plays are the way he wants it

I doubt that has changed just because they got a new OC

I'm ok with them banning the push next offseason

1 minute ago, coalesce said:

Everyone is so obsessed with defending Hurts from the same haters they created that they continue to blame an OC after wins because the QB isn't playing like Josh Allen or Jackson. When in reality they're doing themselves no favors because they could actually be crediting Hurts for continuing to win with an offense that he has been running and winning with. It's so tiring. No body is doing Hurts wrong, he's said multiple times this is the offense he wants to run. So why not give him credit for it since he's winning? Because maybe it won't work next time? Everyone said the same thing all year last year. We're seeing a similar scheme despite changing OC's. The only consistent is Nick and Hurts. It's so obvious this is how he wants to ball. We've seen the game break open when it had to and it will probably have to next week.

It's like people have become so distracted by the need to 1) protect hurts from criticism 2)blame the OC that they don't see what's in front of them. The media wants rage bait and the fans are mad because it's boring to watch.

Pretty much. I think if they agreed that he wasn't the best passer of all time, and said that's fine because what they're doing with defense and running game wins games, it probably would go a lot smoother.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I am not sure they will be fine. We witnessed these problems in the passing game the last 2 seasons. The difference last season was Barkley's explosive runs.

And the defense being insane too, but yeah.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Funny, in 2023 and for a lot of last season everyone was up in arms about how AJ Brown was used. It was "They just keep running AJ on vertical routes, AJ is a great YAC WR, why not run some slants and digs???”

Now this year they are running him on a lot of slants and digs and I’m seeing a lot of "Why are you running AJ on so many slants and digs, why not some more vertical routes???”

And the players deserve some blame too, they weren’t getting open. Beat your man in coverage for once, regardless of what play is run. How about doing that?

I don't think he ran that many slants last week. I think he did yesterday. My conern is the routes he is running but the lack of creativity before the snap to get him open.

Qb1 won't throw over 200 yards until week 6 probably

6 minutes ago, coalesce said:

Everyone is so obsessed with defending Hurts from the same haters they created that they continue to blame an OC after wins because the QB isn't playing like Josh Allen or Jackson. When in reality they're doing themselves no favors because they could actually be crediting Hurts for continuing to win with an offense that he has been running and winning with. It's so tiring. No body is doing Hurts wrong, he's said multiple times this is the offense he wants to run. So why not give him credit for it since he's winning? Because maybe it won't work next time? Everyone said the same thing all year last year. We're seeing a similar scheme despite changing OC's. The only consistent is Nick and Hurts. It's so obvious this is how he wants to ball. We've seen the game break open when it had to and it will probably have to next week.

It's like people have become so distracted by the need to 1) protect hurts from criticism 2)blame the OC that they don't see what's in front of them. The media wants rage bait and the fans are mad because it's boring to watch.

I was very concerned in the offseason that Sirianni/Hurts would have way too much input into the offense this season after them winning a SB and Moore leaving but Hurts isn’t designing the plays. The play designs are bland and uncreative.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This has nothing to do with Jalen Hurts.

3 minutes ago, coalesce said:

Everyone is so obsessed with defending Hurts from the same haters they created that they continue to blame an OC after wins because the QB isn't playing like Josh Allen or Jackson. When in reality they're doing themselves no favors because they could actually be crediting Hurts for continuing to win with an offense that he has been running and winning with. It's so tiring. No body is doing Hurts wrong, he's said multiple times this is the offense he wants to run. So why not give him credit for it since he's winning? Because maybe it won't work next time? Everyone said the same thing all year last year. We're seeing a similar scheme despite changing OC's. The only consistent is Nick and Hurts. It's so obvious this is how he wants to ball. We've seen the game break open when it had to and it will probably have to next week.

It's like people have become so distracted by the need to 1) protect hurts from criticism 2)blame the OC that they don't see what's in front of them. The media wants rage bait and the fans are mad because it's boring to watch.

This is a take but I don't think there's a bunch of people defending Hurts in the blog. I do think Hurts is very focused on not making mistakes. But why are they throwing this ball to Metchie? It's a not a great throw but it also has our 2 best receivers blocking for him.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Then there is this:

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So a team can know what the play is going to be more than 86% of the time based on the formation. It's also not like they are doing anything creative in the run game. A back is getting the ball and running inside zone. There are no WR runs. It's not a sustainable way to run the offense.

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

This has nothing to do with Jalen Hurts.

We don't know how many of those plays were audibles by Hurts to a specific play. I agree it may not have anything to do with Hurts but it's not like Hurts doesn't have a role in it.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah, I'm sure the quality control guys will bring this up. Low hanging fruit, but likely the consequence of a new OC navigating the preseason under real conditions.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

It's frustrating watching a very talented offense struggle. But that is also the silver lining. We have the pieces. It's just a matter of developing the scheme.

We are 2-0 and leading our division.

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I will respond for Hazelton...."It's not the scheme. It's the QB. He sucks."

I think they’re ultimately going to be fine with time. I think there is an adjustment period going on. If patullo isn’t improving weekly as the season continues then need to start being considerably worried. That said before the season i thought the first 5 weeks was going to be tough. Imo 4 of the 5 teams you were going to face are likely playoff teams and 3 of the 5 SB contenders (2 of those 3 on the road). Chiefs were always going to play better defensively at home after what happened week 1 especially losing to us in the SB and being a desperate team trying not to start 0-2. Imo if the eagles went 3-2 to start the year I’d have been content cause i can see us getting to the bye from there at 6-2. Im hoping for better than that though. But im realistic as the nfl schedule this year seems way more challenging even compared to 2023.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Actually, you are the one being pissy with the random drive by insults.

Just shut up, HE

JR has forgotten more ball than you know. Your schtick is tired and boring and just projecting your massive inferiority complex.

30 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I find it hard to believe hurts exclusively is the one who’s calling for condensed formations, meant to take advantage of athletic mismatches and not running any clearing patterns or rubs. All 22 is going to tell a lot, but it seems like forget there’s more field than the 2/3’s of the field on the short side in those formations.

Hurts himself said the offense is the way it is because it's the way he wants it. Actually I think in the comment he referred to himself in the 3rd person too lol

This is the offense Hurts wants to run in the beginning of the year. People can accept that or find a scapegoat in the OC since that's easier

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I felt last year at some point in the next 3-5 years burrow was going to ask to be traded due to poor ownership and inability to build a good enough OL. IMO OL stems from poor development of prospects as well as allocating money to different guys over the years that haven’t exactly played up to their contract.

I loved Sewell and chase in that draft. However i would’ve went Sewell over chase as LT over WR. Heck i wanted the eagles if they stayed at 6 to take Sewell. As well as burrow was coming off his injury and I would’ve wanted to protect him at all cost cause he is the franchise for them.

You'd think a team would want to protect their franchise QB that's putting up all these stats and carrying the team but I guess not

11 minutes ago, coalesce said:

Everyone is so obsessed with defending Hurts from the same haters they created that they continue to blame an OC after wins because the QB isn't playing like Josh Allen or Jackson. When in reality they're doing themselves no favors because they could actually be crediting Hurts for continuing to win with an offense that he has been running and winning with. It's so tiring. No body is doing Hurts wrong, he's said multiple times this is the offense he wants to run. So why not give him credit for it since he's winning? Because maybe it won't work next time? Everyone said the same thing all year last year. We're seeing a similar scheme despite changing OC's. The only consistent is Nick and Hurts. It's so obvious this is how he wants to ball. We've seen the game break open when it had to and it will probably have to next week.

It's like people have become so distracted by the need to 1) protect hurts from criticism 2)blame the OC that they don't see what's in front of them. The media wants rage bait and the fans are mad because it's boring to watch.

They must protect Hurts from criticism

He's only a 6 year rookie

8 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I'm ok with them banning the push next offseason

I was against the banning simply because I don't like the league removing a play just because teams can't stop it. Do I dislike the over reliance on it? Absolutely