4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Then no sport is objective. My point was the SCORING is to be objective, and it is.

Tennis would absolutely be a sport by my definition. Why wouldn't it be? Scoring is objective. There is an offense (sometimes you are going for the kill shot) and defense (sometimes you are just trying to get the ball back over the net), a ball, and it requires athleticism (human locomotion).

Tennis wouldn’t qualify because the linesmen’s in and out calls were subjective. Same as an Umpire’s balls and strikes calls and safe and out calls. And a subjective safe/out call at home plate definitely impacts the score, as does a balk call with a base runner on Third Base.

Now that tennis has eliminated the human element in line calls it moves from non-sport to sport.

Golf scoring is objective. What is your objection to golf. It is definitely offensive. And often a player’s strategy is chosen to defend his lead over the other players.

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

Tennis wouldn’t qualify because the linesmen’s in and out calls were subjective. Same as an Umpire’s balls and strikes calls and safe and out calls. And a subjective safe/out call at home plate definitely impacts the score, as does a balk call with a base runner on Third Base.

Now that tennis has eliminated the human element in line calls it moves from non-sport to sport.

Golf scoring is objective. What is your objection to golf. It is definitely offensive. And often a player’s strategy is chosen to defend his lead over the other players.

Those are not subjective. They get screwed up, but aren't subjective which is why replay exists now. The same argument could be made against football since all penalties would be subjective. But again, I said objective scoring not any other aspect of the game.

Again there's no defense in golf. You sit and watch your opponent you cant even make noise while they are at the ball.

And I want it on record that I never said I had a problem with those other events, just that they don't rise to the level of sport. They can be great fun. But that's not a criteria for sport. Because if fun was one of the elements needed soccer (or "football", "footy", "futbol", or whatever the name people prefer) wouldn't make it! ( kidding kidding, I don't want the whole international community coming after me.)

20 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

He's not alone. Everyone is a shill now. I started logging what reporters have said about specific teams(namely NY, LA teams, and Boston teams to a lesser extent) across the different sports and the amount of garbage propaganda that is out there is laughable. That's all the national media does now is shill for the biggest markets. They've all sold their souls.

Bucky Brooks declaring a guy who has been to a Super Bowl and dominated is "Can he win the big one?"

And Nick Sirianni being ranked behind Brian Daboll as head coach in the NFC East.

Now let's take a look at how the media talks about NY, LA, and Boston teams.

This is ESPN dedicating an entire day to one team.

(This is after game 2 of the 2025 season. Game 2)

(This is after game 6 of the 2025 season. Game 6)

(A national reporter openly rooting for the Mets)

Holy ish dude, that's quite a project. But its the same over here, Man U get unbelievably cushy reporting for years and its only now they are getting real heat from the media. Too many freebies and narratives, not news.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Because if fun was one of the needed soccer (or "football", "footy", "futbol", or whatever the name people prefer) wouldn't make it! ( kidding kidding, I don't want the whole international community coming after me.)

I was about to turn into Bacarty and meet you somewhere on the parking lot at the old Vet stadium. Good that you’re just kidding 🤣🤣🤣✌️

Apropos of nothing, but I try and watch some of the Rugby Championship each year (a southern hemisphere rugby tournament). 2 games this year have been the standout games that I've seen. Argentina vs NZ and NZ vs South Africa were not aesthetically pleasing games to watch from a skill or technical perspective, the physical spectacles of both made them absolutely enthralling watches. It was men at the peak athletic of performance, trying to out physical each other over 80 mins. It wasn't like watching a peak France or NZ team playing open rugby.

Sport doesn't just need to be "ring a ring of roses" or some technical masterpiece to be engaging or watchable to us, the paying customer. There is space for either end of the spectrum, or the middle to exist at any one time. The NFL has become a snobbish over intellectualised technocracy, where the excuse of coach X or coach y wouldn't like it ,is used to narrowly frame what is essentially a physical sport that blends technical elements, into a dull sport full of personalities and no mud on the jersey.

If anyone want an aesthetically pleasing NFL, they should watch the flag version and quit complaining. Leave the main sport the eff alone and accept there different ways to get to the end of the journey.

17 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Holy ish dude, that's quite a project. But its the same over here, Man U get unbelievably cushy reporting for years and its only now they are getting real heat from the media. Too many freebies and narratives, not news.

The Philly metro is one of the largest in country and we watch our teams, I think this is more about secondary sports that ESPN needs to gin up interest nationally.

23 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

The Philly metro is one of the largest in country and we watch our teams, I think this is more about secondary sports that ESPN needs to gin up interest in nationally.

The normie end of sports reporting as such. The stereotypical Man U, Cowboys, Yankees, etc fan

10 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

The normie end of sports reporting as such. The stereotypical Man U, Cowboys, Yankees, etc fan

Bingo.

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2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

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Hmmm... should I take this analysis at face value and conclude the OL isn't playing great or perhaps it's a bit more nuanced then that... the spy vs. spy coaching duel, QB play, etc.

On 9/16/2025 at 4:15 PM, LeanMeanGM said:

Assuming because they don’t have Kupp anymore

13 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Hmmm... should I take this analysis at face value and conclude the OL isn't playing great or perhaps it's a bit more nuanced then that... the spy vs. spy coaching game, QB play, etc.

I think week 1 the OL struggled. Dickerson was not himself and then out. Week 2 was a lot of blitzing

Very cool. I think the first one in the video is the best. Looks like a medieval eastern European church. Raiders, Lions, Titans, Panthers are also very cool. Eagles one is pretty cool.

44 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

That's not a scheduling quirk; your playoff opponents are defaulted to whichever teams win in the playoff bracket.

One of DAL most underated players ever and one of my favorites as a kid has passed on, RIP DD Lewis.

53 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Assuming because they don’t have Kupp anymore

Teams are running a lot more 12 personal to counter defenses playing a lot more nickel. Mina Kimes had a stat about it but can't find it now

JD maturing and taking his fitness seriously is a huge benefit for this team.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Assuming because they don’t have Kupp anymore

But they have Davante Adams now. I'd guess it has more to do with them not having Tyler Higbee until late December last year.

Goedert plays this week, maybe?

Shipley doesn't play?

My apologies for being lazy and obtuse in regards to these questions.

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

JD maturing and taking his fitness seriously is a huge benefit for this team.

He has been everything we hoped for when we drafted him

His hand placement is just outstanding

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He has been everything we hoped for when we drafted him

It's always cool to see young players get a glimpse of their potential doing things the way a mentor or organization thinks is best for them and the team. For them to accept the results and embrace the change that can make them even more successful is just awesome. A lot of younger players in this case, and people in general in their own jobs, don't like change, you said it...maturation. I would love to see Jordan Davis become the stalwart for the Eagles DLine over JC, not because I want JC to fail, but because Jordan doesn't have the expectations on him that JC does. Iron sharpens iron, this could also be a positive for JC imo...

19 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

His hand placement is just outstanding

I think you can see the effect of Jalen not really being a threat to pull the ball the run in this cut up. The DE is crashing, but more importantly the backside linebacker rather than spying the mesh and scrapping is getting involved frontside much quicker gumming up those big creases that Saquon was hitting repeated last season.