34 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Schmidt over Dawkins is a good debate. There is merit for both of them but I would agree that Schmidt gets the edge. Choosing Roy Halladay over Charles Barkley is wrong. I would also suggest that Dave Brown merits more consideration for number 21 over Embiid.

It’s not even close. Schmidt is the greatest 3rd baseman of all time and the best player of the 1980s, 3 time MVP and world champion. Dawkins was a top 3 safety of his era.

I love Dawkins, but Schmidt is the greatest athlete in Philly sports history.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I would take DeSean Jackson over Larry Bowa.

Larry Bowa is an all time Philadelphia anthlete and good guy - all respect to him but he wouldn’t make the current Phillies roster over Trea Turner.

Good defender, exceptionally long and relatively productive career - and played the SS position well for his era but 15 career HR’s over a 19 year career wouldn’t cut it in today’s game.

DJax on the other hand, was a game breaker and potentially the best (or one of the best) big play WR’s of all time.

Bowa didn't play in today's game. He probably would have been more productive if he did. I don't think you can compare him to Trea Turner. Bowa had a lengthier career. He was a key part of a Championship team. DJax was a big play receiver but not particularly long tenured. He also wasn't terribly productive and disapeared in playoff games.

Just now, Ace Nova said:

I would take DeSean Jackson over Larry Bowa.

Larry Bowa is an all time Philadelphia anthlete and good guy - all respect to him but he wouldn’t make the current Phillies roster over Trey Turner.

Good defender, exceptionally long and relatively productive career - and played the SS position well for his era but 15 career HR’s over a 19 year career wouldn’t cut it in today’s game.

DJax on the other hand, was a game breaker and potentially the best (or one of the best) big play WR’s of all time.

Why are you measuring Bowa against this era and not his own?

Bowa over Jackson for a variety of reasons.

How big is Jalyx Hunt now, does anyone here know? He looks bigger to me in the clips I’ve seen this summer. Last season he was listed as 252. And how much does Campbell weigh? I see him

listed at 235 but he looks bigger.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

It’s not even close. Schmidt is the greatest 3rd baseman of all time and the best player of the 1980s, 3 time MVP and world champion. Dawkins was a top 3 safety of his era.

I love Dawkins, but Schmidt is the greatest athlete in Philly sports history.

The counter argument is that Dawkins is probably the most popular player that played for the most popular team in the city.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't think any of it matters at all, which makes it all silly. Being out there doesn't matter. Not being out there doesn't matter. Refusing to admit if you put the ring on during the offseason doesn't matter. Not wearing the ring during the offseason doesn't matter.

Not that it's a distraction but it feels like just jumping through unnecessary hoops with all this nonsense.

I get the standard that they’re trying to set and the eyes always forward approach. I think they viewed the ring ceremony last month as the last hurrah and curtain call for that team because there are guys no longer on the team who got to celebrate that night. This is a new team now.

I like how Nick has handled this offseason compared to Doug back in 2018 who took a victory lap and wrote a book. They’re in a unique situation here with the window they have to go on a memorable run and they all know that. Guys like Hurts and DeVonta are Saban disciples and know what the expectation is.

I think they deserve to stop and smell the roses for a bit based on what they accomplished. But that’s not their mentality and I think that’s pretty bad ass in its own right. And it seems like every single one of them is aligned on that strategy.

AJ put up a post a day or two after the Super Bowl saying that he was already over it. I think the chase/hunt drives these guys more so than the actual result.

16 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

It’s not even close. Schmidt is the greatest 3rd baseman of all time and the best player of the 1980s, 3 time MVP and world champion. Dawkins was a top 3 safety of his era.

I love Dawkins, but Schmidt is the greatest athlete in Philly sports history.

Yup. Dawkins is every part the HoF Safety and beloved part of the Eagles' family over the years. BUT... Schmidt was the single greatest 3B in the history of the sport of baseball, undisputed. Some will argue that Brooks Robinson was the best defensive 3B... and they are likely very correct. But, when you discuss the offensive side, there's no comparison. Then you flip it around, and I'd be hard pressed to find a single 3B that matches Schmidt offensively. ARod would be close BUT he played half his career at SS and half at 3B. And then there's the steroids. Case closed. Schmidt is easily the choice for #20.

Why aren't Doug Collins and Dave Poulin even being discussed though. Very nice players in their own right. Hard to compete with a HoFer and a GOAT though. Shame for them. They'd be more deserving than some of the other guys with other numbers. They'd both be better than Jagr with 68 (does he really get a spot on this list?), or Bob Walk with 41, and even Hank Fraley with 63 (who was even disrespected by not having his name, but "Honey Buns" on the jersey).

30 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

It’s not even close. Schmidt is the greatest 3rd baseman of all time and the best player of the 1980s, 3 time MVP and world champion. Dawkins was a top 3 safety of his era.

I love Dawkins, but Schmidt is the greatest athlete in Philly sports history.

Pretty much this. Just about any other number, Dawkins takes it but not #20.

29 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

It’s not even close. Schmidt is the greatest 3rd baseman of all time and the best player of the 1980s, 3 time MVP and world champion. Dawkins was a top 3 safety of his era.

I love Dawkins, but Schmidt is the greatest athlete in Philly sports history.

Uh, Wilt Chamberlain is hands down the greatest athlete in Philly sports history.

Reggie White would give Schmidt a run for his money as the greatest player in Philly sports history, along with the Big Dipper and Dr J. And Bobby Clarke isn't far behind (won Hart trophy 3 times, also 2nd, 4th, 6th (2), 8th 10th (2))

14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The counter argument is that Dawkins is probably the most popular player that played for the most popular team in the city.

But, its a list of BEST, not most popular. On that list, Dawkins is way over Schmidt. On the flip side, in terms of best at their position, Schmidt over Dawkins all day.

14 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I get the standard that they’re trying to set and the eyes always forward approach. I think they viewed the ring ceremony last month as the last hurrah and curtain call for that team because there are guys no longer on the team who got to celebrate that night. This is a new team now.

I like how Nick has handled this offseason compared to Doug back in 2018 who took a victory lap and wrote a book. They’re in a unique situation here with the window they have to go on a memorable run and they all know that. Guys like Hurts and DeVonta are Saban disciples and know what the expectation is.

I think they deserve to stop and smell the roses for a bit based on what they accomplished. But that’s not their mentality and I think that’s pretty bad ass in its own right. And it seems like every single one of them is aligned on that strategy.

AJ put up a post a day or two after the Super Bowl saying that he was already over it. I think the chase/hunt drives these guys more so than the actual result.

When you're sitting by your Olympic swimming pool, basking in the sun, with your servant bringing you drinks, you can savor your accomplishments in retirement.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

But, its a list of BEST, not most popular. On that list, Dawkins is way over Schmidt. On the flip side, in terms of best at their position, Schmidt over Dawkins all day.

Also is it best Philadelphia athletes or in general? Because Jagr only played here for a season. Not sure if he should have 68 over Mailata.

30 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Bowa didn't play in today's game. He probably would have been more productive if he did. I don't think you can compare him to Trea Turner. Bowa had a lengthier career. He was a key part of a Championship team. DJax was a big play receiver but not particularly long tenured. He also wasn't terribly productive and disapeared in playoff games.

32 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Bowa didn't play in today's game. He probably would have been more productive if he did. I don't think you can compare him to Trea Turner. Bowa had a lengthier career. He was a key part of a Championship team. DJax was a big play receiver but not particularly long tenured. He also wasn't terribly productive and disapeared in playoff games.

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Why are you measuring Bowa against this era and not his own?

Bowa over Jackson for a variety of reasons.

Jackson played in the NFL for 14 years.

That could be considered as good as (if not better) than Bowa’s 19 years when considering the average career of an NFL player vs MLB player.

Granted, DJax’s final 4-5 years were somewhat pedestrian - so were Bowa’s

DJax had 7 seasons of 1000+ yards from scrimmage, 3x pro bowler and the most 50+ and 60+ yard TD receptions in NFL history.

What does Bowa have the most of?

DJax is #10 for me.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Pretty much this. Just about any other number, Dawkins takes it but not #20.

The only numbers I don't think Dawkins would win in a land slide are:

32 - Carlton's 1972 season, the Cy Youngs, the strikeout record, the World Championship

1 - Parent. Without Parent, there likely are no Flyers. He was the best player on those Cup teams.

Not sure who else would get the spot over Dawkins. The rest are trickier. 92, but White spent more time out of town than Dawkins, etc.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Any fans in the UK planning to watch the game in Passyunk on Thursday? 😊

I will be vacationing in London during week 5. I have already made plans to watch the Broncos game at Passyunk!

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The only numbers I don't think Dawkins would win in a land slide are:

32 - Carlton's 1972 season, the Cy Youngs, the strikeout record, the World Championship

1 - Parent. Without Parent, there likely are no Flyers. He was the best player on those Cup teams.

Not sure who else would get the spot over Dawkins. The rest are trickier. 92, but White spent more time out of town than Dawkins, etc.

Debatable but fair enough, imo.

I’m not old enough to have seen Schmidt play but the greatest Philly athlete I ever watched was Iverson. I don’t remember Reggie White on the Eagles.

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m not old enough to have seen Schmidt play but the greatest Philly athlete I ever watched was Iverson. I don’t remember Reggie White on the Eagles.

Well, you missed a lot. On the other hand, you’ll probably see a lot of great stuff after I’ve shuffled off this mortal coil that’s as good or better.

5 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m not old enough to have seen Schmidt play but the greatest Philly athlete I ever watched was Iverson. I don’t remember Reggie White on the Eagles.

Schmidt played before advanced metrics became a thing. Lifetime OPS over 0.900!

Most fans didn't give him credit for his OBP (or even understood that walks were good). They focused on a ho-hum batting average and lots of strike outs. Only later in his career did fans began to understand the greatness they were witnessing.

Dale Hawerchuk at #18? You gotta be ishing me. He barely played here and was well past his prime. That’d be like giving #85 to Art Monk. (And holy cow, they actually did that!!)

Off the top of my head, I’d take Lonsberry or Reagor. Or Ben Hawkins actually.

Philly Special Show on YT said we have signed a pass rusher and it should be announced soon

26 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The only numbers I don't think Dawkins would win in a land slide are:

32 - Carlton's 1972 season, the Cy Youngs, the strikeout record, the World Championship

1 - Parent. Without Parent, there likely are no Flyers. He was the best player on those Cup teams.

Not sure who else would get the spot over Dawkins. The rest are trickier. 92, but White spent more time out of town than Dawkins, etc.

16 - Bobby Clarke is the greatest player in Flyers history and was arguably the best player on those cup teams along with Parent.

20 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Dale Hawerchuk at #18? You gotta be ishing me. He barely played here and was well past his prime. That’d be like giving #85 to Art Monk. (And holy cow, they actually did that!!)

Off the top of my head, I’d take Lonsberry or Reagor. Or Ben Hawkins actually.

Mike Richards should have gotten 18.

Josh Davis does the Philly special podcast. Says eagles have/are adding edge but can't give up name. Says it's a done deal though.

A bit of nothing I suppose, could be interesting.